Chomper Higgot

Refer my last post above regarding my views on the right to treatment. But your post raises a couple of other issues: Countries that provide public healthcare. Flipping your argument, if the state provides your health care paid for by taxation then the state has a strong argument for mandating vaccines to reduce costs to tax payers. For nations without public health (or more likely for market driven health care systems) the insurers have a vested interest in increasing premiums for people refusing vaccination.

I do not support the view that anyone should ever for any reason be refused the medical treatment they need. The health care systems are resourced to provide medical treatment that barely meets the predictable demand (life style diseases are part of that predictable demand). A pandemic is above and beyond the predictable demand and those refusing vaccination are placing a significantly disproportionate demand on health services. I nevertheless believe anti-Vaxxers should, like your hyperbole bi-weekly overdosing junkies, receive medical treatment when they need it. I don’t believe it ‘ridiculous’ that hospital beds are being taken up by people who have refused vaccination, rather it is predictable and almost entirely unnecessary. For this reason, among others, I support vaccine mandates.

Nonsense. One need only look at public donations in the UK, US and Europe to help with overseas disasters, famines and health crises to reveal the holes in your characteristically negative view.

All very true. But what the anti-vaxxers demonstrate is something entirely different. They are absolutely aware that the virus is killing large numbers of people, while making many more seriously ill and filling hospital beds with its victims. The facts and the science are clear, the vaccines dramatically reduces the number of serious illness, hospitalization and deaths. And yet anti-vaxxers actively disseminate misinformation that undermines the fight against this wretched disease. Moreover, many of those actively disseminating anti-vaccines misinformation have themselves been vaccinated. Your post speaks to the sin of omission, a sad reality of human failings, but propagating anti-vaccine misinformation during a pandemic is an act of informed commission. A completely different order of callous behavior.

You made the claim, it’s for you to provide the evidence. YT and FB won’t cut it, but at least you’ve admitted where you are getting your nonsense ideas from.

As an athlete myself this might give me cause for concern. You made the claim, now present links with evidence of athletes in the US/UK dying of heart attacks related to their vaccination.

Since you ask, here you are asserting that deaths formally recorded by medical professionals as caused by COVID are ‘alleged COVID deaths’. I think asserting formally recorded COVID deaths are ‘alleged’ is as close to COVID denial as makes no difference.

No it’s not that either. The 2021 average daily death rate for all causes is under 8,000. Refer link I posted

The same science as wearing a mask elsewhere.

It’s his mother I feel sorry for. I genuinely do.

She’s an American Citizen and at the time of being trafficked for sex with Andrew Windsor and others was a minor under US law. The US like the UK extends the jurisdiction of its courts globally where sex crimes involving their citizens are involved, either as perpetrator or victim. The US court has jurisdiction. It is US law the court considers not UK law. A minor cannot consent to sex with an adult, an adult performing any sex act with a minor is a crime. Paying the minor in cash or in kind does not make the minor complicit in the, the minor is not competent in law to consent. All that aside, this is a civil case that will be settled on whether or not it can be reasonably demonstrated that the allegations against Andrew are true or not. It also appears from statements made by Giuffre’s legal team that she is not going to settle out of court. I think it’s fair to say, Andrew’s not feeling the love right now. (With all due respect and all that).

If he were entitled to diplomatic immunity he would have played that card already. Meanwhile, back in the UK he’s been stripped of his ‘HRH’ title, stripped of his military Commands and you is under increasing scrutiny from the press and public. What a mess he’d gotten himself into.

Rules are for everyone, including those who believe themselves to be responsible.

From the OP: “If you get the call don't come at 8. Come at 11. Thai time.” And make a detour via BPH (or other private hospital) to get your own test first.

His title means ‘Jack’ in a US Court Room.

["He did not reasonably believe she was 18." Do you have evidence for that statement? "Irrelevant to this case". I don't agree - seems important but it's just MHO] This is a civil case, not a criminal case, what ‘The Andrew, formally known as Prince Andrew’ believed at the time is an irrelevance. The case will be settled on what ‘The Andrew, formally known as Prince Andrew’ can be reasonably shown to have done, not what he believed he was doing.

“vaccines are helping to keep people alive, but we are in worse shape now in terms of hospitals being overwhelmed than we ever were before vaccines were available.” Because of the arrival of the very much more infectious Omicron variant, which is creating higher numbers of hospitalizations in a shorter period while at the same time infecting hospital staff and thereby causing staff shortages. A solid argument against relaxing public health policies until this Omicron wave has passed.

In terms of the crimes committed against her she was a minor. It’s not a grey area.

I did say you were the only one, bad news (in your linked case ‘bad news opinion’) sells.

A mess of Andrew’s own making. But blame his victim why don’t you!

We already see governments acting to reduce precautions with the Omicron variant, arguing it is a virus with less serious outcomes. The idea that governments wish to impose public health precautions for any other reason than the virus being a threat to public health is an ‘Anti-Vaxxer/Anti-Public Health measures’ conspiracy theory. The public health precautions will disappear when the virus is no longer a threat to public health.

Nonsense, vaccination has freed millions of people to be able to return living a more normal life, has enabled businesses to re-open, facilitated travel, protected people in vital service jobs and massively reduced the load on health services. Let alone the countless lives vaccines have saved.

In the meantime vaccines have saved countless people from serious illness, hospitalization and death and too the immense related impacts of misery, grief and healthcare costs.

Also added in large quantities to food here in Thailand.

Already debunked in the thread addressing this very news item.