Lacessit

Get a good lawyer.

Let's add a bit of tone to this thread

How about this in my GF's kitchen? Aroi mak, apparently.

1 hour ago, 9a9a said:

I don't know which is creepier, the centipede or the smile.

7 hours ago, Nyezhov said:

Where are the aunties with brooms screaming in Thai and beating it to death?

They're exhausted from fending off your importuning.

5 hours ago, Vigilante said:

Let me tell you...Thailand had a lot of time to turn into Italy.

It didn't.

It was one of the very first countries to 'import' the virus

Corona viruses HATE summer

 

It's not gonna happen now either.

 

The heat hypothesis is not fully proven, Australia is in summer and they have twice the cases of Thailand.

The big question is how reliable the Thai infection and death figures are.

1 hour ago, Don Mega said:

Exactly, therefore rendering hand gels useless.

How do you know that? Is this another conspiracy theory, governments want to get rid of excess stocks of hand gel?

42 minutes ago, xylophone said:

Okay, we seem to be at odds over this, so this is worthwhile considering....... 

 

Once someone has applied the alcohol-based hand gel to the hands, it is supposed to kill the virus/germs, and once the alcohol has evaporated, which takes approximately 15 seconds, it is no longer active against the bugs.

 

So sanitiser on the hands is a once off thing until you touch something else, say 15 seconds later, so moisturiser is not going to make any difference whatsoever, apart from possibly reducing irritation as in the OPs post.

 

There is mixed evidence (but generally very favourable) on the non-alcohol-based hand sanitisers which often use benzylkonium chloride as the bug killing agent, or indeed triclosan, and there are even some like this that have moisturiser included. There are even some antibacterial wipes which are alcohol free and purport to do the same job.

 

Anyway, with the amount of people I see walking around the shopping malls here with small bottles of water tucked in their trousers, pouches, small backpacks, then it would be no problem whatsoever to dampen a tissue, or indeed use a non-alcohol/antibacterial wipe – – plenty of choices.
 

I agree with the content of this post. IF a person applies a soap/water mix, they would risk another form of skin damage unless they rinsed or wiped off with plain water. As I said before, soap is alkaline and hence defats the skin.

Certainly there are the non-alcohol alternatives, as you have identified.

Moisturizers usually have some oily component to restore skin balance. Unfortunately, bacteria love anything oily ( don't know about viruses ) so I am questioning the value of a moisturizer on the hands.

I apply sorbolene regularly to my legs, but I don't eat or touch surfaces with them.

Call it a mild difference of opinion.

1 minute ago, xylophone said:

I said to mix it with water, or can carry a small container of it to clean hands, or seek out a cheap moisturiser to help.

It's still soap. He needs to rinse the soap off with water.

A moisturizer tends to defeat the purpose of the exercise, which keeping hands clean/sterile.

7 minutes ago, xylophone said:

Put some ordinary liquid soap is a small container, mixed with water and carry some tissues in another pocket.....should see you through.

Soap is alkaline. Leaving soap on the OP's hands and just drying it off with tissues would probably cause irritation too. Possibly a nonionic surfactant would be better.

Stick to soap and water, and give surgical gloves a try.

Any chemical that does the same as the alcohol will probably cause the same amount of irritation.

Don't see any panic in Chiang Rai. Apparently many rural Thais don't have the money to stock up anyway. Business is down in the more expensive restaurants, a couple of the stalls in the Food Court at Big C have closed. Daily dalat nats are still going strong.

57 minutes ago, pdtokyo said:

 

Insurance? i try to avoid like the plague and unless it is legally required and self-insure. Not a fetish, evidence-based. i've worked for insurance companies and know the lengths they will go to, to avoid a claim. Others may have different preferences of course.

Totally agree. I have not had travel insurance for ten years. The cost would have been in the thousands of dollars, and once I hit 70 the options reduced and the cost escalated.

In that time, my only payout from self-insurance was a cancelled flight worth $350 from Melbourne to Bangkok.

27 minutes ago, wwest5829 said:

 

Seems my DNA test would claim a closer “solidarity to the yarmulkas or priest’s beanie.

Suggest the yarmulke, priests are not getting a good press lately.

Fairly good evidence coronavirus is being taken seriously. Trump has resorts in the UK and Ireland that would suffer as a result of this ban.

7 hours ago, wwest5829 said:

I confess to wearing a hat when outside the house wherever I go. It is a vanity thing. Seems someone scalped the back of my head when I was not looking. I have considered wearing a Yarmulke or priest’s beanie if it offends ...

You could try a burqua to express solidarity.

16 minutes ago, DUNROAMIN said:

The news comes as Thailand on Saturday announced seven new coronavirus cases, bringing the total number of reported cases in the country to 82. The new cases included people who had recently returned from Japan.

My wife is informing me through her social media that the virus is here in Isaan country, I wonder what is the real number of cases? I believe the number is higher than the government is telling us. 

 

It's a very moot point how many cases there are in Thailand. If it's true coronavirus does best in cold climates, Thailand's hot climate may be slowing it down. On the other hand, government figures may be false.

 it's difficult to tell if Thai public hospitals are inundated with coronavirus patients, because they are normally flat chat most days.

Just go and infect everyone, or be infected yourself. Permit me to doubt you'll show up on official statistics.

4 minutes ago, Yom said:

Sorry, no. - But I feel with you.

You should bring your own rubber bands,

bought on the local market.

May be the photo helps?

Usually 5 Baht/bag.

 

 

Thanks for your help, but I'm kiniow. Freebees are better.