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If your assistant is Thai I expect the problem(s) relate to misunderstanding and difficulties associated with translation.

Much easier to say " No can do" !

Nah, she said a whole lot of things, so this is not about translation.

Thanks.

'Not possible' in Thailand can mean different things.

Yes your friend cannot keep the current extension, however a new extension can be obtained to immediately follow on from the previous one.

Here are the key event sequences:

1) There is nothing to stop the new employer from applying now for a new WP (using form WP1), if all is ok, then the WP should be granted subject to issue of a new Case 2.1 Extension and a WP1 receipt issued accordingly stating this fact.

2) A post dated cancellation letter is then issued from employer 1 once the new WP conditional approval is issued.

3) Prior to the date of the cancellation your friend bowls up at immigration to check all the papers for a Case 2.1 extension from the new employer, plus the WP1 conditional receipt.

4) Immigration can then do a conditional approval on the new extension if all the papers are in order.

5) A pre-visit to immigration to check all the ducks line up for the new extension/papers should be time well spent.

6) If there is some fundamental problem that takes a few days to resolve, then a 7 day extension would be an option.

Thank you!

Im still puzzled why they immigration (senior) officer did not know about this procedure though - as my assistant carefully tried to explain to her the procedures ubonjoe gave me.

Anyway, we will try to apply for the work permit first - after the increase of capital is done.

Thank you guys! I will report back once we know more.

Clause 2.1 for extensions based upon working s in both these orders. 134 was a typo in my post (now fixed)

Police Order 327/2557 basis for extension of stay

Immigration Bureau Order 138/2557 documents for extension of stay

I guess we can start the procedure of applying for the work permit anyway, right?

I don't really understand number one. Both situations would require something from the current employer.

Immigration is not all that familiar with getting work permits, A new work permit can applied for prior to the old one being cancelled.

Others have been able to do what I wrote about, The work permit application approval letter is even mentioned in the order that lists the documents required.

From clause 2.1 of 134/2557

"4. Copy of work permit (in the case of change of workplace, an acknowledgment of application may be used)"

"From clause 2.1 of 134/2557"

Do you have the source of this information ?

Thanks!

Which Immigration Office did your assistant enquire at?

In theory, with the co-operation of Labour/immiugration plus your friend's old/new employer plus some serious leg work, then what ubonjoe advises should be do-able.

Don't recommend the two employers on the same WP route - it will end in tears - guaranteed, that is unless your friend genuinely works at both companies and they both accept the situation/extra paperwork required. Anyway if one then leaves the first employment then the WP has to be cancelled anyway and re-applied for/issued for the second employer alone.

Chaengwattana. She went there today and tried to mention ubonjoe's way. But they were very clear that THIS IS NOT POSSIBLE, and cannot keep current extension... bla bla.. My assistant does my extensions every year, and just did all my PR stuff, so she knows the immigration procedures quite well.

So the saga continues...

My assistant went to Immigration today to ask them directly about the process.. This is what they told (un-edited - just removed name of new employee)

It is a re-entry permit not a visa.

You have to apply for it at the office were you got your extension. You can also get it at either airport in Bangkok 24 hours a day on departure from the country.

This is my understanding as well. Still funny, because im 99% sure the sign says "Re-Entry Visa" on the sign at Suwannaphoom.

Also on the website: http://www.suvarnabhumiairport.com/en/1001-re-entry-visa

TIT..

A new work permit would have to a applied for and work permit application approval letter issued by the Labor Ministry.

Then with paperwork from your company and the work permit application approval letter he could apply for a new extension on the date his current extension is canceled by having a termination letter from his current employer,

After the extension is done his current work permit would be canceled and his new one issued.

So let me see if I understand the procedure correctly:

1. Apply for new work permit

2. Recieve approval letter issued by Labor

3. Go to Immigration, and bring

• Full set of documents to apply for extension (similar to any yearly extension)
• Work permit approval letter
• A termination letter issued by prev employer

4. Issue new work permit

Sounds about right?

He is not married.

Thanks for help. Seems like your answer, Ubon Joe, is different than what my assistant got from immigration today. They basically said he had to leave, and get back on visa exemption, and start from scratch..

OK! This is Bangkok. So I guess new rules? That means if I successfully get a PR (which I am currently applying for), we need a total of 6 employees?

Hi,

So in general 1 foreigner = 4 staff, but as I understand, its not the for the actual Work Permit, but for getting the yearly extension. Correct?

So my question is, if the 1st foreigner can get his permission to stay based on other grounds (eg. married or PR), do we still need 8 staff to renew the 2nd foreigners extension of stay?

I am a bit uncertain how to put together the portfolio. I am writing a word document, which is kind of like a resume of my life here in Thailand. I am attaching pictures as well. Is it ok if this part is in English language, or do I need to have it translated?

I would find it very hard to survive on 65K a month. But I do enjoy going to Villa Market, and I do enjoy restaurants and bars. I do enjoy a good ice coffee. Bangkok is expensive, and services here are much more expensive than before.

65K is about the same as a decent Thai programmer would have. In my business we outsource IT Consultants to other local companies, and their salary is around 40K - 55K.

As a foreigner, and you have skills in c# or similar, I guess you could look at 100K or more. I have foreign friends here that works as engineers, and they salaries ranging from 100K - 250K.

Can you please get me a reference that tell that the exemption exists? When we moved here we looked into bringing a car that has been registered for 5 years in my Thai GF:s name and we was told we had to pay full taxes based on the new price of the car. Like 8 times the cars value in taxes. We were also told that there had been an exception some years before we moved here but they had to take it away because is was used by students that had been studying abroad to import super sport cars for rich people that didn't wanna pay tax.

Im not sure whether this exist anymore or not, but a Thai friend of mine brought his BMW X6M in from the UK a while ago, as he studied there. Probably around 2010-2012.

And we moved here 2012, when they told us the exemption was taken away. See the average student can't afford a X6M, most would have brought it for somebody.

Well except that many students outside the country aren't necessarily average, they're of high so Thai's generally. But on the whole I agree with you.

That particular guy is well off I guess. I haven't really talked about his financial status, but I don't think he would have bought that X6M in Thailand, as it would be unreasonably expensive. The UK car prices are very cheap on an international scale.

Congrats with the new car!

I haven't had time to go to immigration to get my re-entry. Is the airport a reliable service I can count on? Do I need to bring anything?

I'm departing on Sunday morning..

Solution. Parking sensors front and back. Reverse cam.

seriously considering a 3 yr old approved BMW - surprised to find out one model in particular sells at a far lower price through BMW than on the used car sites i.e. one2car. Possibly part exchange (guessing)

What model? I have also heard a foreigner can get financing directly from BMW without the restrictions that a Thai bank imposes?

BMW has their own leasing company here, so yes, that's possible.

Can you please get me a reference that tell that the exemption exists? When we moved here we looked into bringing a car that has been registered for 5 years in my Thai GF:s name and we was told we had to pay full taxes based on the new price of the car. Like 8 times the cars value in taxes. We were also told that there had been an exception some years before we moved here but they had to take it away because is was used by students that had been studying abroad to import super sport cars for rich people that didn't wanna pay tax.

Im not sure whether this exist anymore or not, but a Thai friend of mine brought his BMW X6M in from the UK a while ago, as he studied there. Probably around 2010-2012.

There are tons of cars imported here. The gray market for cars is huge.

I'm not sure where you are from. Lets say UK. You need to contact one of the shops that are already in the business of importing eg. sports car from the UK (Most cars come either from the UK or Japan to my knowledge). They will import the car for you and probably get it in for a reasonable price.

Probably generates twice as much revenue as well...

These malls generate nothing. They are places where rich people buy stuff they don't need in shops owned by other rich people. They are a waste of space, a waste of money and a waste of energy.

You show great economical insight!

An interesting and comprehensive report, thanks.

I would STRONGLY advise against Millennium autos. We bought a benzine 320i 2014 model last year. Had numerous elecrical problems which culminated in a complete failure if the i-drive system within 4 months after paying 2.75 Mill.

Needless to say I was massively unimpressed.

Noone at Millennium Lad phrao would take my calls not sales, not customer service, not the GM.

Only offered to fix the vehicle not replace it. No courtesy car provided. TERRIBLE, EXCEPTIONALLY RUDE 'not my problem, I dont give a shit' service.

We use German Autos in Chaengwattana now. They are excellent.

Good luck if you choose BMW. My next vehicle is back to Honda. If I buy BMW again it will be the S1000R ?

Those I-drive are in all new cars. Never had a single problem with them. Im on my 3rd BMW in Thailand now, and luckily I choose a farang owned dealer. Top notch service! My biggest problems with my cars so far as been some rattle sounds, which has been fixed easily.

Just drove there on Thursday. Just a bit congested over the mountain itself. Takes about 15 minutes extra to get over, but rest of the road is pure silk. Great asphalt all the way!

I had some parts sent with USPS.. Sent from the states the 13th. Still havent arrived.. I will report back how much tax.