J Town

2 minutes ago, worgeordie said:

Can Trump pardon himself, when the time comes?

He makes Richard Nixon look like a saint.

Unresolved whether or not 45 can pardon himself. The fact that this was one of the first legal issues he asked about, considering the shallowness of his thought process, speaks volumes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_pardons_in_the_United_States#:~:text=by state action.-,Self-pardons,pardon) is an unresolved issue.&text=On July 22%2C 2017%2C President,far is LEAKS against us.

He makes Nixon look like a saint, Bush Jr a REAL stable genius.

There is no question that Stone is a convicted criminal, and his crimes were those of protecting 45. In what reality could 45 commuting this criminal's sentence be anything other than corrupt?

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

You can satisfy your curiosity be googling "covid 19 long haulers" dozens of articles, studies and facts.

Is there a link explaining how it's a Democratic hoax? Asking for a friend.

3 minutes ago, riclag said:

I have no idea where your getting this info from

Barr's confirmation hearing:

https://www.businessinsider.com/william-barr-confirmation-hearing-trump-pardon-2019-1

Stone tweet forthcoming

3 minutes ago, riclag said:

The office of the POTUS using its pardon and  commutation powers! Is this not allowed for Mr. Trump. Some posters  from distant lands aren't aware that for over 200 years the office  has allowed this right!

Most posters from distant lands are quite familiar with a corrupt banana republic looks like. William Barr says it would be a crime for Trump to pardon someone in exchange for their silence. Stone said he kept silent to protect 45. These are their words.

3 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

The judicial system convicts a man on 7 counts of criminal activity.

 

The executive branch pardons him.

 

The lines of separation seem to be getting a bit blurred.

According to Bill Barr, 45 committed a crime.

https://www.businessinsider.com/william-barr-confirmation-hearing-trump-pardon-2019-1

1 minute ago, Skallywag said:

WHO cannot cure most causes of death, but think the virus is avoidable or we can all avoid it by staying home until there is a vaccine.

And that's the most important part of this pandemic - cancer, heart disease and the such are not communicable, whereas Covid is extremely so.

And the argument that it's only 1% fatal is not taking into account all the collateral damage. For every 1 death, 19 more require hospitalization; 18 of those will have some permanent heart damage for the rest of their lives; 10 will have permanent lung damage; 3 will have strokes; 2 will have neurological damage leading to chronic weakness and loss of coordination. Stay at home, wear a mask if you have to go out, observe social distancing and wash your hands.

It took 95 days for US to reach 1,000,000 Covid-19 cases.

After that, 43 days to reach 2,000,000 cases.

Then just 28 days to reach 3,000,000 cases.

At this rate, US will reach 4,000,000 cases in two weeks.

Florida is now the epicenter of not just the US, but of the world.

These numbers are from John Hopkins University & The Wall Street Journal 9 July 2020.

2 minutes ago, mtls2005 said:

Given this administration's past record dealing with Covid, everything should be fine with school openings. Just need to find someone to blame when it goes sideways. "Dr. Fauci please pick up the white courtesy telephone."

The administration has recently put a full court press on throwing Dr. Fauci under the bus.

5 minutes ago, stevenl said:

It would help his cause if DeVos would have been able to say 'yes, it is safe'. But her refusing to assure it is safe to reopen, who is going to believe Trump? 

I saw a recent interview of DeVos, that very question was put to her in a very blunt fashion "Give me a yes or no answer, will schools be safe fully opening up using CDC guidelines?" She just put it in autospin.

1 minute ago, Trillian said:

This is Darwinism in action.

I've thought the same thing, but unfortunately there is also collateral damage.

3 minutes ago, nobodysfriend said:

It is not only the mortality rate ... people who were cured of the virus and left hospital may suffer severe side effects such as permanent lung , liver and kidney damage , and even brain damage ...

US military will not accept anyone to join if they ever had Covid-19 because of all the side effects.

9 minutes ago, cooked said:

VERY FEW cases of Covid affect children and even less get ill from it. You have succumbed to the media propaganda spreading fear in the communities. There will probably never be a vaccine that is more effective than the 'flu vaccine (which is useless in my opinion), so how long do you want to keep these kids out of education? Until after the elections probably.

STILL with this? They get the virus as does the teacher, the teacher and some students die. Or they get the virus, take it back home, family members die. Thai schools are in the 3rd week of reopening because (and I know the "glass half empty" crew will say how wrong I am) Thailand did a good job of containing the flu. Just today, Florida surpassed the worst number of new cases, and other states are vying for first place. Until the US adequately deals by coming together as a team to combat Covid-19, schools will be just like Florida, Texas, Arizona, California, etc.

It's not propaganda that has me concerned. It's the hospitals saying they're having to turn away patients because they don't have the resources to handle the growing number of cases.

During Bill Barr's confirmation hearing, Vermont Sen. Patrick Leahy asked Barr if a president can "offer a pardon in exchange for the witness's promise not to incriminate the president."

"No, that would be a crime," Barr replied.

https://www.businessinsider.com/william-barr-confirmation-hearing-trump-pardon-2019-1

And if you try to argue Stone was commuted and not pardoned, then shame on you.

If schools completely reopen, Betsy DeVos (Secretary of Education) said only .02% would likely die. That's about 15,000 kids. Anyone with a working brain knows the virus needs to be contained before even THINKING of reopening. Look how well it worked for businesses, and now you want to sacrifice CHILDREN on the pyre of fueling capitalism? I saw an interview of her, she couldn't answer simple questions like "Should schools adhere to CDC guidelines?" Her stock answer to nearly every question was "We want all schools to reopen."