J Town

23 minutes ago, Tie Dye Samurai said:

I will always try and give credit where it is due and I am happy to see he came around and is doing what is right. Hopefully he influences other people to do the same. To me, with the mask on, he finally looks like he is trying to lead by example. The only way the country gets past this is if we all pull the oars in the same direction

45 doesn't get a pass. If a man is guilty of murdering hundreds, maybe thousands due to his willful negligence, he goes to jail for manslaughter. Just because he displays reluctant remorse doesn't make the crime any less gruesome.

4 minutes ago, xylophone said:

He lies so consistently, with lies upon lies that even he doesn't know what he is saying or has said. Disgusting excuse for a human being.

How sad it must be to be a supporter, believing that scientists, scholars, teachers, economists, & journalists have devoted their entire lives to deceiving you, while a reality TV star with decades of fraud and documented lying is your only beacon of truth and honesty. Staggers the imagination.

1 minute ago, PatchinExPat said:

He is the President, if they said anything, it was asking

not telling.

Just so you know.

Being president is still a big deal, no matter what news talkers say.

Are you implying he is above the rules of safety and health restrictions at a hospital? He had a choice NOT to comply?

6 minutes ago, JensenZ said:

The comment has been made by a number of people here that Trump is responsible for all deaths.

There is not one post here stating 45 is responsible for all deaths. He is undeniably responsible for some that could have been prevented had he not turned mask wearing into a political debate. Just one example where he chided a news reporter for wearing a mask, saying the reporter was just being politically correct for not removing it.

10 minutes ago, JensenZ said:

You should also find another source of news. Most of the bungling, and deaths were presided over by Democratic Governors and mayors. 35% of all deaths were in the states of New York and New Jersey. Add in the other Democratic states and you'll have an incredibly high percentage of deaths at the hands of bungling Democrats.

Florida governor - Republican

Arizona governor - Republican

Texas governor - Republican

These are currently the states with the highest rising number of cases. These are facts, not news stories. How about we stick to facts?

1 minute ago, JensenZ said:

You should take a break from CNN, MSNBC and other Democratic mouth pieces. We here this b s every day. Enough already.

Tell that to all the dying in hospitals that are at or near full capacity. Many of them could have been saved if people wore masks.

4 minutes ago, Sujo said:

Well after all this time the question is...why?

I strongly suspect the hospital wouldn't allow anyone entry without a mask. What an absolutely stupid reason for debate.

1 minute ago, TopDeadSenter said:

It was hardly "emotional rhetoric". He stated quite correctly the left had their chance to show what they could do in their autonomous zone. Opposing voices said it would turn into a violent cesspit, the left said it would prove what lefty inclusive, diverse, progressive politics can achieve. Well in their tiny enclave there were several murders, untold number of sex crimes, general beatings and violence against those whose thoughts were not aligned sufficiently with the leftist mob, and even racial segregation (I saw one photo of a garden area reserved for black and native Americans only!!). Let's be polite and say it was a stunning failure of epic proportion, and shows exactly what the left would try and roll out for the country if they manage to win an election ever. A scary thought. Thanks again to Trump for highlighting the evils of left wing revolutions, and enabling us to have a discussion about it. 

I didn't bother reading this. The fact that you defend such puts you in the same camp.

43 minutes ago, checkered flag said:

Left to themselves the lefties (sickos) will self destruct like in Seattle. The trouble is they want to take ordinary people along with them. 

Your lecture on political systems is rubbish or worse. Maybe we need a go fund me page for you to buy a ticket to Seattle or Portland. 

I recently posted this: "The real shame of ALL of this is people have lost the ability to debate issues without emotional rhetoric."

1 hour ago, xylophone said:

Well let's get one thing right, and that is that trump has proven time and time again that he is far less then a "decent human being".....pu$$y grabbing, stealing from a charity and thousands of lies makes sure that he doesn't qualify for a "decent" tag.

 

But one thing that puzzles me about some people on here who refer to the people who do not support trump, is that they constantly refer to the Democrats or non-trump supporters, as fascists, savages, thugs etc.

 

Whereas I had always thought that trump with his right wing leanings would be the one who qualifies as a fascist, and also therefore his followers who also engage in much the same sort of shenanigans as quoted in your post, not to mention pointing rifles and guns at people, but that's a different matter for another time.

 

Fascism is described thus: Opposed to liberalism, Marxism, and anarchism, fascism is placed on the far right within the traditional left–right spectrum. 

 

The left leans towards socialism, whereas the right leans towards ultra nationalism, dictatorial power (as in that which trump is trying to implement) and other unsavoury aspects.

 

Quite why, especially on this thread/forum, centrists, liberals and those who do not like trump, are labelled fascists and savages is a mystery, but then again perhaps it all leads back to the trump right wing leanings!

The real shame of ALL of this is people have lost the ability to debate issues without emotional rhetoric. EVERY political ad I've seen from EITHER side has only flung poo at the opposition. EVERY news stream I've seen from either side has mostly avoided issues and instead pointed accusatory fingers at how bad the other guys are. I even posted earlier on TV how I miss politicians who argued honorable platforms and received nasty blow back at the sheer idea, instead accusing former politicians of their wrongdoings. Only ads from Biden have broached the imagery of trying to bring the country together (and I'm NO fan of Biden!). For pity's sake, why should wearing a mask (as all countries who have successfully pushed back at the virus numbers) become political? I have a friend who lives in Arizona. This guy used to be an advisor to a US Vice President. He tells me it's now a political statement. Dems wear masks, Reps don't. Until we stop the petty arguments that are costing money, time, and lives; until we stop listening to lies, believing them as gospel truth; until we admit that science based on facts are the messages we should use to battle this pandemic, we are doomed to rising numbers of virus cases and resulting deaths.

28 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

In 2016 Trump use scaremongering against immigrants as his strategy. Now he is again employing the same scaremongering tactic by splitting his own people to 2 sides. Trump is encouraging the citizens to take sides and is very incendiary. GOPs must recognize the danger and do the proper thing. 

The GOP are among the people MOST interested in dividing the nation. There is ONE person of color in the entire GOP Senate. That hardly represents the US.

19 minutes ago, johnpetersen said:

Have you watched Trump being interviewed? He seems incapable of answering a simple question or citing facts to back up what he says. It's pretty clear he's got a bad case of ADHD and is cognitively impaired.

And THOSE are his GOOD points.

Why would kids bother online when they can get it at any mom & pop store throughout Thailand? This sounds like a means to generate more brown envelopes.

Remember when politicians had honorable platforms and argued ideas instead of just flinging poo at each other?
I miss those days.