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Hi guys, I have non-o visa because im married to a thai lady. Then got my work permit and extended my visa for 1 year based on marriage (not work). But because of my wife's work i dont want to continue with my marriage extension but using my work. She must travel a lot and it really makes a lot of problems for immigration and also for us. We need to change immigration a lot. Also all 2 of my extensions are from other cities. Also 1 done by an agency (the last one). That's another reason why i want to move on work based extension. I dont want to use agency visa for forever. So it is confirmed before by @ubonjoe and some others that it is possible to extend your marriage visa with your work too. My question is basically what kind of documents am i going to need to do this change? - obviously need the proper papers from the work. But will they be the same like normally going to visa extension to immigration OR some documents must change? Immigration will be chaengwattana immigration. OR do i need some extra paper work then usual documents such as copy passport, education like that from my side when going there? - do i need my wife to come with me again? This is where the problem starts because shes a high rank army officer and shes not here at the moment and she cannot come here too because of some work. This thing was a problem many times with the immigration. This is one of the reasons why i want to change the visa extension to work based. - if no need the wife, will i need the original marriage certificate or copy of them or KOR2 or any related paper work / documents of my wife? - I know it is possible but my HR department really insists it cannot be done. When i asked her why she told me some other person tried it before (some years ago) and they told him its not possible at CW because his visa is non-o thai wife not non-o work. - Any suggestions with the documents? - Will there be any problems because my last visa extension based on marriage was done by an agency and again its not bangkok. ( i asked this because we have a new employee and he came from Udon Thani, he cancelled his visa and got covid visa with some papers from the udon immigration to CW. So he can extend it or change it to non-b work visa. At udon things were so good and fast. But in CW they called the udon immigration and many other things.) Well as you can understand my last visa was done by agency im little bit worry about this. thanks a lot,

Well, i said IF he needs. No harm to get info or to have other options. Also im pretty sure it will be cheaper too because he already has 800k. Thats something they need to discuss. And im still sure her prices will be NOT over than many known agencies. Anyway, its his choice.

OP if you need an agency contact me. She can do everything for probably 30K opening bank acc and all together unless you have no other issues with your passport. Also if you do your second time (1 year later) with her again, it wont cost you 30K again but max 18K. she will also do your 90 days too. I suggested probably 7-8 people from this forum and they are super happy. She did my non-o for 28K

Thank you. So no covid test at the airport, both for departures and arrivals

Hi guys, Not sure if this is correct place to post but have a question: Im planning to go to Krabi for 2 days just for the new year. Before my friend took the plane from udon thani to bangkok and they asked him to do covid test. He did. He had no vovid vaccine So i had 2 vaccine already and i have this on my mobile app. I was wondering if thet will ask me to do the covid test at the airport or no need... Thnx

why not after all people doing just to stay in thailand... that means its like a second home... so, why not?

No there is no 'must' as i know, i might be wrong. But it has point section for thai speaking/understanding and another point section for read / write thai. So this makes me believe that it is not a MUST to speak or read or write. Thats why they have individual scores. At least thats what im thinking. Although as you mentioned im also pretty sure that they would like to see at least something basic which makes sense because you want to be a thai! My friend took this test and he told me some people interviewed with him and they basically asked him to introduce himself. He did it nicely, then they ask 1 or 2 questions and they just told him ok thats it in 5 min right after they understood he can answer all 2-3 questions without any problems and fluently in thai. But he cannot read or write, they told him its not that important but they cannot give him some score from that. Anyway he passed with 75 if i remember correctly.

Hi, There are some steps you need to take. For example first is to apply. After applied steps starts.. Everything you can show them or give them will give you some points. Total is 100 and 50 up will granted you thai citizenship. For example your salary must start from 40K and it will give you some points. If its higher point goes up too. If you can speak thai it is another points if you can write or read its points. if you can sing thai national anthem it is points, king royal anthem is another pts. (some people say no need to do this if you are married). If you do donations thats another point. If you have yellow book up to how many years you have another up points. Regarding to your age, education again there are points. There are few other things like this which will give you points. So basically if you can add up 50 up you can be a thai. This link will give you some idea: https://www.thaicitizenship.com/thai-citizenship-points-test/

Thanks again

Hi and thnx for the reply. Actually he is still on non-o and he used his non-o both for extension and get the workpermit. He could do the extension with the help of the visa agency. And yes he was divorced when he did it. He just gave the copy of marriage documents, ex wife id copy, ex wife house book copy to the agency that was all and agency extended 1 year, and with that extension did his workpermit too. Ex wife doesnt know this. He told her he got non-b aldeady and cancelled non-o. But its lie just to make her think he is not using non-o so she will not try to threaten him with this. As you recommended the best way is to go out and come back to thailand with a new non-b What if... he extend his visa in july again another year BUT this time using working reason? Will they ask anything about the ex wife? Want to see her too like normal marriage extension? If he do that that non-o is no more? I know mentioned many time in the forum that marriage visa can be extended using work reason too. But it sounds like it will not work out because marriage visa is and its extension is for marriage.. it feels like they will not extend marriage visa because you are working.

Hi guys, Lets say someone used an agency to extend his non-o visa 2 years ago and still on this for yearly extensions. And the city he is in and the extension city is not the same. But this person divorced almost 1,5 year ago and still stayed on non-o with the help of agency. He is working at the same work for 7 years and holding a workpermit. This man wants to get rid of this non-o situation as soon as possible, and wants to get non-b because of his work. His next extension is in mid July. But again he wants to get rid of this non-o as soon as possible. He obviously didnt notify his divorce to any immigration and so far his ex helping about keeping his secret. Although some problems are starting about the ownership of the house and cars... so as you can imagine he is worrying about his ex might stop helping with the secret (probably she wont, because she thinks she is also quilty because when he used the agency they were still married and she thinks she might be in trouble too) but again he wants to get rid of this non-o. He is aware that he just cannot go to IO and show them all documents from his work with the workpermit and ask for non-b. Yes, he could wait for the extension time and use his work reason to extend his visa and kind of change it to non-b (not really but kinda) but its too long.. its on July. Also... that non-o extension he did when he was not married will be still on the passport. Also obviously he never went to bangkok immigration for do any work visa or extension about work because he was doing everything with his non-o. This means he has no record at the immigration or in their computer/system. He renew his workpermit in september so its fresh. These are all the info, now this is his plan but not sure if it will work or not: Go to the nearest police station and report them that his passport is stolen.. get the police report from them and go to his embassy to make a new passport. Also getting a letter telling to IO that he was holding a non-b visa and working here from the embassy if they give such a thing (they give a letter saying its lost and kindly asking IO to help but not mentioning about the type of the visa). After getting the new passport go to bkk immigration with the documents and paper work and workpermit and tell them he lost it or stolen and kindly ask them if they could transfer the extension to his new passport. Of course he will not mention non-o thing and ask for working extension reason so it will show that the reason for the extension is work... and he hopes it will work... But here the problem is.. first of all as i mentioned before he has no record at the immigration. IO will see that or not? They will check computers, entries? Or IO will take the bait and just do the paper work and do the visa (yes no record but obviously every document and work permit is real and same workpermit for 7 years). Also what about his arrival card? Can he keep it and say it was not in my passport (not to the bkk IO but if he needs to leave the country again in the future), probably at the border IO will not do anything about it. OR he must go to a border and tell them this stolen story and ask for a new arrival card? Another thing is he has a new girlfriend and they are serious, so can get marry. If so, do you think it will help and how? Can he use this new marriage at the IO before or at the time of extension in July? But again his old marriage is still on the passport and obviously there is no cancelation of that visa.. so maybe again stolen story but this time go to IO with the new wife and documents? Any info from you guys and from @ubonjoewould help. PS: he is really in stress about this and really feeling down and hopless. I fear he will do something stupid. Thanks

if you want to use or keep your non-o and if you dont have 40K or 400K in the bank... an agency can help you anytime with between 15K-30K if you already have non-o and want to keep your extension.. i believe you can do it 15-18K if you need an agency i can give you info about the agency i used before. Contact me. good luck

600K.... only if he would block the number plate... If he hide the money and tells cops i finished it already or likewise... he can get the money back with a clean white page in 5 years Actually he is not the funny part of the story here but the bank... pretty sure the teller is in this as well.

well yes and no.. To get the extension in another place or city is good. They wont check most likely. They wont waste time for that. Also no need at all. So no problem here. About TM30 if i were him, i would just tell them i also want to do my TM30 here because now we are living here and again with my girlfriend or wife. If there is problem with TM30 i would tell them i didnt know about it because of covid. and i just thought its not that important since i was staying with my wife or girlfriend all the time, so sorry.. my bad.. Just accept it. No need to mention agency thing because they will udnerstand at that moment things are not real. And questions will start for sure. Not sure how much it will affect but will sure. So try to find another story for TM30 if you dont want to say i ignored it. They might not like it as well. I think the best thing here to say is, he doesnt know that he has to do TM30 when staying with girlfriend. He thinks TM30 is only for if you rent a house or condo or likewise ???? and say sorry for it and tell them you will be very careful about it next time. good luck

Hi OP, I read only first or two pages of comments. First of all like everyone said calm down. This thailand and there are options for sure. just need to find one. Secondly sorry to say but i cannot understand why you dont want to have covid vaccine. Risking yourself and other people is a very selfish thing to do. Thats stupid. yes, it is not easy to find a work without a degree. But what you can do is to apply one online and study online. OR you can even study in thai universities. If you chose to study in educational area most of the schools will accept you also labor office will accept your studying documents too. Another option is marriage. If you dont have 400K you can do that with an agency for 30K But you need to understand something.. you need an income for yourself and your wife and for your life. You mentioned many times you are young for everything. Dont know your age but it seems you have enough time to make up your mind and make some life objectives. Do it. Be strong! Good luck

Nothing serious but if the agent did at the same place it might raise some question marks with the IO. its also because he never did TM30 before too. If the IO is a serious one he will ask questions for sure, and do a proper check, i would. Another thing is most agencies just do the visa and other things but (i dont know how to say) they dont put you into the system. So when IO checks from the computer he might not see your friend. There are always risky things when you use an agency. Also I really cannot remember when but i kind of remember that in this forum someone mentioned that they didnt give him another covid visa because he didnt do TM30 and its breaking the rules so they didnt extend or give another covid visa. i might be remembering wrong. i recommend that your friend prepare a backup story just in case if they ask questions there.. because if creates a story there TRUST me they will understand and not going to buy it. This been said, the most likely scenario will happen is; they will little bit complain about the TM30, get some money and yes i think its 2000. Do all the things and let your friend go.

with all respect, you mentioned it cost you 6K to send a shampoo... and the reason is they are expensive in the UK.. what kind of shampoo is this if i may ask? 6K

then it means you are a confused man bro.. sorry. it was a good explanation.. to who can understand OP original post is asking about the prices of agencies, yes? I also saw in first page there was someone suggested thaivisa agency, yes? So.. i answered Op's question.. 18-30K and i also made comparison, yes? so.. what point confused you?! but if you just wanted to make a post.. well, thats your confusion.. lol I didnt read 5 pages. I directly answered the OP's clear question. But thank you for proving me right about thaivisa agency. Because they chrage you 35K whatever your situation is. Also i remember they were posting on this forum like it will be higher after few months. But you said there are agencies still doing it for 15K.. thanks

then it means you are a confused man bro.. sorry. it was a good explanation.. to who can understand OP original post is asking about the prices of agencies, yes? I also saw in first page there was someone suggested thaivisa agency, yes? So.. i answered Op's question.. 18-30K and i also made comparison, yes? so.. what point confused you?! but if you just wanted to make a post.. well, thats your confusion.. lol ignored

well if you cannot see the point what im saying.. you must be blind. lol.. ignored op topic and question is the price of the agencies ... Also i wrote contact me IF you need an agency. Now its me confused with what you are trying to say. lol anyway like i said.. ignored

good info thnx

my agency do everything really good and cheap. I suggested to many people here and they are all happy. Bur you need to come here first so she can help. I strongly suggest you not to use thaivisa agency. They will charge you like crazy amount. Yes, many people are happy with their service so it has to be good, but if you will get what you want for the half price of them... well.. no need to make more comments. If its your first time my agency will charge you max 30K. from second time its max 18K. No blah blah, no game, no BS Like i said using for 2 years. No headache nothing. And people i suggested are also really happy. Also its working with really big people.. and i mean it. so there is no risk. If you want more info message me.

I suggest you to tell your wife to calm down when teaching that kid. If she cannot then not to teach the kid. If the kid is having some problems in learning.. you cannot make it better with higher voice or anger. You need to be more soft and understanding. About your kid going to Thai private school. I dont think you need to feel bad or worry about it. Because its a private school and education is a very big business in Thailand and really big big money in it. So i think you got the point. About your girlfriend mimicking her former teachers... Thats a good observation from you. its up to your girlfriends education background and age. Such as where she studied, in the city or urban. if she is 40 up probably saw some thai teachers hitting students and likewise things. I must say new generation teachers are really better. Like 10 years doing the work teachers. Sadly in many government schools, education is a joke. Both from farang and thai teachers. Farangs they all know students dont care about the lesson or else. And most of them are there just for some income and long stay visa. For thai teachers again if its not the new generation teachers (10 years) they dont even care about the education there. I remember few things my teacher friends told and it was like nightmare stories. in private schools situation is little bit better. Although lot of politics going on in the school too. Again both for thai and farang teachers. Thai teachers fight for position with each other and farangs fight with each other just to stay 1 more year there. I know many farang teachers talking bad behind to thai teachers about the other farang teacher when ever the other one leaves the room. This is just to show they are better than other farangs so can stay here longer. And many stupid things like this. In thai education evaluation results from students is very important. So actually teachers cannot do too much about students. Think like this, students play with the phone and most of the teachers cannot do anything about it because when students evaluate teacher.. they remember they took his/her phone in the middle of the game... i thought marketing and logistics at a university in thailand when i first arrived to country for 4 years. i have lot of teacher friends too. Some of them were like i would not even look at their faces if i met them on the street (this is because of their habits or the example i gave like talk behind you and mostly lies), some i wish i didnt meet... I know and heard many real bad stories. I know how stupid the job is and working conditions are. luckily i found a work with my real background and very happy now. im working for thai army for 12 years now. Wishing you good luck with your kids education bro.

UPDATE: Bangkok Bank called every 900 employee and apologies big time. They said they should write a better transaction reason than purchasing goods. Also they mentioned that they have the right to do a transfer if the transferer make a legal request with the proof. They also apologies about not sending any sms or likewise before or after transaction. The reason why they couldnt do that was because it was not easy to reach 900 people at that time and they had to act fast (stupid reason in my opinion), but now because they got complain about this around 850 they decided that they will write an official letter to every 900 people saying and explaining the mistake. They totally accepted that it was their bad and mistake that they didnt notify people before and after. So, basically they have the right to play with the bank account BUT they had to notify people which they didnt. Now they have to do more things just because of some lazy supervisor. I really think Bangkok Bank is one of the worst banks in thailand. I know many people dont agree but in 16 years i never had this much problems with other banks than i had with bangkok bank. Anyway not a big thing.. at least they know how to accept their mistake.