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18 minutes ago, URMySunshine said:

There's so much circulation in the US and elsewhere now that community transfer is by far the biggest route for new infections. Travel bans only really work way back when the viral pool is very small and you have a chance to whack-a-mole the few you can track and trace. The US is less than 10 days with an explosions in cases and subsequently impact on ER. As is the UK.

I understand the point but still consider that we are still early in the game. The virus is still capable of jumping around by travel into currently unaffected areas. The USA is huge country with many international airports.

Travel within the USA, is no doubt moving it now across further distance then country to country within Europe.

Never the less, I still have no fear of this virus, and don't feel any worry or need for panic. Nor do I have any reason to lambast Governments around the world like my own, or the Government of Thailand. I consider myself reasonably safe.

On 3/13/2020 at 4:22 PM, nrasmussen said:

That's how I see it too.

 

Yesterday I was at a clinic to get a doctor's certificate for driver's licence renewal. The only time COVID-19 was mentioned was when the doctor asked how things were going in my home country (Denmark); my answer was: "Not good - I'm happy that I live in Thailand".

Only the strong will survive brother! The frightened are half dead already. A virus will just help them along the way ????

On 3/12/2020 at 1:22 PM, Bkk Brian said:

Which would indicate that you have no worries of catching COVID-19 right? Why is that, because your young and healthy or the odds of catching it just don't worry you?

I am 61. Very fit and healthy. I have no fear of this virus at all. I want to be very clear about this.

As with many things in life, I have no control over this. I can wash my hands, keep a comfortable distance I suppose. But I am not going to place myself in lockdown inside my condo, while hoarding supplies. Nor am I going to endlessly post diatribes against world leaders efforts at containment in some mistaken belief that in doing so I am making the world a better place.

Again, I have no fear of this virus at all. I am not changing my life except perhaps by using hand sanitizer more often.

If I was a different man, I suppose I would be worried, trying to understand how others think, but I do not understand the point of worrying. Sorry.

I consider worrying a waste of my life. A waste of emotion, a cause of stress. I might add that stress is a far greater killer then this virus is. People die everyday in this world.

I am pleased to report I am alive and well! Feeling happy, strong, and fearless. I hope everyone else can feel the same.

18 hours ago, Nigel Garvie said:

The way I heard the excellent video of a genuine expert being interviewed I took it like this. Travel bans don't work when the virus has already spread significantly to most places in the world. Containment is no longer a possibility, viruses don't recognise borders. Earlier on when the Japanese quarantined the cruise ship one could see the logic.

 

Personally I would be more reassured if the Corona virus had given an announcement telling us how we were going to save ourselves from Trump!

What does that mean? "A virus does not recognize borders"? Can we think this statement through? Is this to say the virus is blowing in the wind hundreds of miles? That it does not need a human carrier? If it does require a human carrier, then to cross a border it needs a human carrier. Yes? No? That would mean the carrier arrives via plane, train, or automobile, unless inhibited from doing so. Perhaps, what I am saying is pure nonsense. If so feel free to explain to me where my logic is faulted.

1 minute ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Let's not be deliberately stupid here... It's the president's job to marshal and direct the resources of the federal government. That includes the Dept of HHS and the CDC, which are responsible for coordinating the U.S. CV response. And their duties include ensuring that states and localities across the country, as well as the federal governnment, have access to the resources they need.

 

Do you honestly think, that the US CDC needs Donald Trump to tell them what to do? Certain functions require President approval , example allocating some additional funds, some coordinating inter agency, but they know what to do.

We are a drop....small drop in the income of the kingdom. I know that much.

14 hours ago, fabman5 said:

The UK has almost 500 cases of Corona virus.. Thailand has less than 60 ..haha how can anyone take what this country says seriously ????

Sounds like Thailand is the safe place to be. 

21 hours ago, khunPer said:

Thanks, but I would presume longer time than just walking through a fancy light tube in 30 seconds or so.

 

Some sources mention 30 minutes exposure, whilst if the lamp is strong, like when cleaning water tanks, or passer passing through a tank, it will instantly shut off if a tank is opened, so humans are not exposed.

 

The UV light used to sterilize hospitals – and mentioned ordered by Chinese authorities after the COVID-19 outbreak – is a robot, as humans cannot be in the rooms when it's UV-sterilized...

 

Source: "China fighting COVID-19 with Danish robots"

 

[ ... ]

Source: "Bacteria-Killer Robot Armed with Ultraviolet Light"

There are MANY types of UV sterilizing lights, big n small.

11 hours ago, wensiensheng said:

And how many were hit by asteroids?

 

you suggestion that there are far more likely ways of dying than from covid, is valid. Road deaths a current example. But to suggest that there is more chance of being hit by an asteroid than dying from covid is nonsensical

Hey bud  you are confusing people in your replies. I never mentioned asteroids, careful about your quotes, if you are taking someone elses reply with quoted material. 

Thailand is far down the list on cases. I have no worries. What is the problem?

10 hours ago, Mister Fixit said:

PFFFT!  Of course I didn't mention N95 masks because as I seem I need to repeat, my post was not about them, but about the paper doo-dahs so beloved by Thais who seem to see them as an essential item of clothing, and I don't mean just recently due to the coronavirus, I mean in the 16 years I have been here. 

At the first sign of a sniffle, they put a mask on.  That's OK if they are being public spirited enough to try not to infect others, that's fine but they seem to think it will protect THEM from others, and it just won't.

 

As to the ridiculous allegation of 'nonsense', there's a reason why medical staff wear masks (and not N95 masks either) in operating theatres - and that is to stop any bacteria of the doctors and nurses entering open body cavities and perhap infecting the patient.  It isn't to stop the patient infecting the medical staff.  

 

But what convinces me I am right and you aren't is that a month ago my niece arrived in Thailand just as the virus scare was kicking off.  She's only 9 years younger than me due to a complicated family relationship and she has  40 year career as a nurse, and she's now a nurse practitioner in cardiology so she can prescribe as well.

She mocked all the Thais wearing these masks for the exact reasons I mentioned because they are useless to stop people becoming infected as any fule kno.  (British expression)

 

So, if you don't mind, I would rather rely on my own reasonably good knowledge of medicine over my lifetime, including running a medical charity, and that of my niece with a lifetime of experience in medicine than some random bloke on an internet forum.

For the life of me I cannot understand why people who seem to have nothing but contempt for everything Thai are doing here posting?

How can one live in Thailand if they view Thai people with contempt, only to be mocked or ridiculed?

10 hours ago, Traubert said:

What do your family think of this drinking binge you've been on since January? Do you mean your wife runs your business because by your own admission you are always drunk?

Wow, when they start trying to shame people for not being good fathers or husbands you know rock bottom in the evolution of scoundrals has been reached.

Living in Thailand I am happy to say I easily avoid this sort!

13 hours ago, 0815 said:

Are you living in Thailand ? If Yes > WHY?

Yes I am, because I wake up with the sweetest little thing every morning of my life. And was down in phuket last week for a quick solo vacation that had a round trip flight of cost of $60.42, and I could go on....

Life is grand.......and then you die.

34 minutes ago, Canuck1966 said:

They have literally done nothing but lie and obfuscate.

Those toxic fumes must have gone to your head

Are you living here? I'd run man! This is a scary place for people who worry easily. You still got time to get out before apocalypse.

6 minutes ago, ukrules said:

How many 100's of people were hit by asteroids last year?

 

The 59 confirmed infected probably disagree with you.

While your on the topic of 59 infected have a look at global statistics, and recovery rate

https://ncov2019.live/

The recovery rate is pretty good!

And if you would like something really alarming  this article reports that 1 person a day , every day  dies from falling while taking a shower in the USA

https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/evewoman/article/2001233343/caution-bathrooms-and-showers-can-be-a-death-trap

12 minutes ago, peterb17 said:

I too have no fear of this - went to a training seminar in Chang Mai - 400 people week before last .

Did I worry one bit - of course not. 
 

TV just seems at the moment to be full of the tin foil hat citizens - mostly from the USA .

 

There is little more chance of catching the virus in this country than being hit by an asteroid.

 

Be real people 

This American agrees with your entire post. Wish they'd all go back to twitter.

1 minute ago, jkcjag said:

"Sources said the officer had contracted the virus while on duty despite taking precautions like wearing a face mask". This continuing obsession with face masks is amazing. When will Thai officials understand that a mask is NOT the primary preventative measure to protect oneself. Immigration officials are handling passport and visa documents from every person coming through. Those documents have been touched multiple times by their owners and airport officials, any one of whom may be already infected from any of multiple sources like aircraft seats, arm rests, aircraft meals and packaging, car, bus, taxi door handles, staircase banisters, escalator hand rails, rest room taps, handles, baggage handles, ATM keypads, immigration bio-metric screens, money notes & coins etc. etc. Unless the official is absolutely vigilant in NOT touching his face ever, prior to disinfecting his hands, then he is open to contracting the disease by handling material from thousands of different people daily. Furthermore if he is wearing a mask then the mask itself is also liable to be infected by touching the mask for the same reasons. Masks are NOT recommended by government and medical bodies in other countries, and in fact the opposite message is being delivered i.e. the message is categorically "do NOT wear masks!", but wash your hands frequently with soap and water, and do not touch your eyes, nose and mouth.

My most recent experience at cheng Wattana bangkok immigration, staff in masks, AND frequent use of alcohol gel, and plenty of gel for everyone to use, and frequently used by staff. And symptom test upon entering. Same at suv BKK airport. In my opinion the Thai are on this very well.

1 hour ago, earlinclaifornia said:

I am curious why Thailand has 37 cases and my own country, America has over 1000?

Thailand is doing quite well:

https://ncov2019.live/

1 hour ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Keep up... 6 more announced today upping the official tally to 59.

 

Big deal

https://ncov2019.live/