thaichina

4 hours ago, MrJ2U said:

I don't think smoking vapors is good for you.

 

I definitely wouldn't want any of my family or loved ones doing it.

 

Best thing is not to do it.

 

https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/basic_information/e-cigarettes/Quick-Facts-on-the-Risks-of-E-cigarettes-for-Kids-Teens-and-Young-Adults.html

I am not saying it s good for you, I m saying it should not be banned.

It s not smoking, it s vaping, and it s not about kids who should stay away from it anyway, but adults who want to quit smoking. It s like for weed, everybody always talks about kids to try to ban it for adults, we are not kds.

4 hours ago, MrJ2U said:

"As of November 21, the CDCTrusted Source has confirmed 2,290 vaping related lung injury cases, with 47 deaths"

 

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/lung-vaping-disease-now-called-evali

 

 

Your welcome.

 

 

This number is for illegal THC vapes, not e cigarettes as you think, it has nothing to do with normal e liquids. I don t think you checked your source or you don t understand what we are talking about.

By the way, even if this number was real which is not, take alook at this from the CDC, you are more than welcome:

https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/fast_facts/index.htm#diseases

• Worldwide, tobacco use causes more than 7 million deaths per year.² If the pattern of smoking all over the globe doesn’t change, more than 8 million people a year will die from diseases related to tobacco use by 2030.³
• Cigarette smoking is responsible for more than 480,000 deaths per year in the United States, including more than 41,000 deaths resulting from secondhand smoke exposure. This is about one in five deaths annually, or 1,300 deaths every day.¹
• On average, smokers die 10 years earlier than nonsmokers.⁴
• If smoking continues at the current rate among U.S. youth, 5.6 million of today’s Americans younger than 18 years of age are expected to die prematurely from a smoking-related illness. This represents about one in every 13 Americans aged 17 years or younger who are alive today.¹

57 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Personally, I don't care about the Sinovac vaccine one way or the other, as I've already had my two doses of AZ via the Thai government's vaccination program for expats.

 

However, my Thai wife has refused the opportunity to get the Sinovac vaccine via the government's vaccine program because her mother upcountry doesn't like it. And when I asked the wife what the mother had seen about Sinovac, the wife's response was that the mother had been viewing Thai youtube and social media videos claiming people had bad reactions to Sinovac.

 

Now, I personally don't reconsider Thai social media reports to be particularly credible on these kinds of topics, nor does the real science support that kind of stuff. However, none of that stops ill-informed or poorly-informed Thais (or even people of other nationalities!) from basing their personal vaccination decisions based on social media nonsense.

 

If I had to make the decision still, based on what I know from credible science, I'd try instead to get two shots of an mRNA vaccine like Moderna or Pfizer solely for being more effective against the Delta variant than Sinovac...  that is, if I had any such choices in the matter.

 

And not because of any social media vaccine reaction nonsense or anti-Chinese sentiment relating to the Sinovac vaccine.

 

And FWIW, my wife just today put in her 3300b payment for two doses of the Moderna vaccine thru a private hospital in BKK that are supposed to be delivered before the end of the year. So, she put her money where her mouth is, paying for Moderna instead of taking the free Sinovac doses offered by the government.

 

You are right, most of the anti sinovac claims seem again to be based mostly on misunderstanding on how vaccines work and anti chinese sentiment which is very high here on tvf. I myself am not in a hurry to get a vaccine as i work online so I m waiting for MRna vaccines, but if I had a lot of interactions with others for my job or social life, I would take it now and maybe wait for a booster in the future. It protects you again death from covid which is the main reason to take the vaccines.

6 hours ago, steven100 said:

we can only hope ....

Why would you hope the virus expands in China? Please enlighten me.

Is there any list of these clusters available in english anywhere?

Is Lumpini park open today? And if it is, can we run without mask?

delete please

9 minutes ago, kynikoi said:

 

Right. Because chronic pot smokers are known to be highly industrious and absolutely brilliant. Just ask all the hippies sitting up in the hills in Himachal Pradesh. Bloody geniuses each one.

 

Aveinalaff

No, chronic pot smokers are not known to be highly industrious and brilliant.

No one gives a Fk about the hippies sitting up those hills. 

And that does still not make it true that   Everybody free to smoke but it does make you stupid and lazy, it just deflects a little bit.

28 minutes ago, kynikoi said:

 

False assumption

 

Possibly

 

Momentarily

was there to reply your stupid assumption in the first place that said weed made people stupid and lazy, that is not true.

36 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Anyone know the alcohol percentage they are spraying? Less than 70%, it's useless.

I think they are smart enough to know that they must spray 70% alcohol from the drone to have a good efficacy, COVID will be eradicated from the spayed area and they will all finally be safe  ????

2 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

Really, what a surprise. Most expats are retired , of course they are happy with work life balance and working hours !

That is not true, most expats are not retired, that s only your perception. Most expats work here. a lot of asians ( japanese, chinese etc .. .) work here.

4 hours ago, chalawaan said:

Considering the reality that 80% of the prison population are there for non-violent drug use -not dealing just use- then maybe banging people up for using substances that are scientifically proven to be less dangerous than alcohol, and yes, even *that* one is less dangerous than alcohol, if supplied and regulated like alcohol, because the Science and the Lancet say so; then the entire country would be a lot happier and healthier.

 

If 80% of the prison population are drug users, then the message is:

 

1. A lot of people like illicit drugs.

2. Jail doesnt seem to deter them much!

3. Stupid and inhumane laws = jail overcrowding that is now coming back to bite them on that part of their anatomy where the "authorities" seem to keep their brains.

I m surprised to see such a good post here, I agree 100% with you, stupid drug laws are the cause of mass incarceration of non violent drug offenders, they should not be there at the first place, and yes alcohol and tobacco are some of the most dangerous drugs 

https://www.globalcommissionondrugs.org/coverage-of-our-2019-report-in-the-economist-what-is-the-most-dangerous-drug

I hope it s the first step for a more sensible policy based on science, not perception.

Anyone know how to get more information in english about the cluster in Sathon, Bangkok? I can t find any. Thanks!

6 minutes ago, Britman Free said:

*Paris only* 

So just the one city in the world outside of Thailand.  

 

As I said, it's just a rule to enable OB to make up for lost tea money 

That s not true, not Paris only, almost all the country. Anyway, Masks mandates are all around the world, not only in Pattaya, just grow up and stop spreading nonsense.

1 minute ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Really??? did you think at all ???? just a little bit. 

 

Anyone in my car private is already in my ‘bubble’... Girlfriend, mistress, friend etc...   they’ve been in my house etc...  

 

 

but, thaichina, I do believe it is a good idea if you ask your hitch-hikers to wear their mask. 

 

 

 

 

Awww....  should have worked a little harder at school !!!....     The ridicule is not targeting mask wearing in public. The ridicule is targeting a stupid policy of wearing a mask in our own car, it's as stupid has being told to wear a mask in our own homes.

 

This policy of mask wearing in our private vehicles is no longer on the fringes of common sense, its well along there on the spectrum of total dumb-fluckery !!!

 

 

 

Make it simple:

Open the door of your house, go out, wear your mask, then when you come back home, take off your  mask. Is that simple enough rule?

16 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Of course.... But its pretty easy to spot a taxi... Grab drivers will ask customers to wear a mask and given the current media fed hysteria and fear who is going to get into a Grab car without a mask anyway ?

 

Under the current rules my Wife and can I have have dinner with friends round their house, but we have to wear our mask in our own car when driving ourselves there. 

 

I’m not against covid protection measures, but I’m against stupidity. 

 

 

 

 

Tell me how a policeman can know that it is your wife in the car? Maybe that s why they made the rules like that. Also I have very hard time understanding the complains on TVF about masks wearing, just grow up.

58 minutes ago, redpill17 said:

+ served in a massage parlor = Happy Ending Pizza

That will make tourists come back for sure!!