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As usual you make no attempt to address the issue; just the usual retort that anyone who doesn't subscribe to your narrow-minded, insular, know-your-place version of the UK is anti-British. Sad.
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BBC News - Coronation: Met expresses 'regret' over arresting six anti-monarchy protesters https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65527007
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Charles is King of 15 countries - but for how much longer?
RayC replied to onthedarkside's topic in World News
Yes it would. It would also coincidentally prove that your "uncertainty" that the UK monarch was 'above the law' was unfounded. As I say, no doubt, purely coincidental. -
Charles is King of 15 countries - but for how much longer?
RayC replied to onthedarkside's topic in World News
No need to go to the trouble of searching for it yourself. Confirmation can be found in the link which I posted earlier???? -
Charles is King of 15 countries - but for how much longer?
RayC replied to onthedarkside's topic in World News
That is certainly not proven. Would tourists cease to go to (former) UK palaces if the Monarchy was abolished? The number of tourists visiting the châteaus of France suggests otherwise. A brand is an intangible asset and is only worth what a buyer is willing to pay for it. The 'Woolworths' brand name was probably worth millions in its' heyday. There is nothing in this link that suggests that the institution of the Monarchy itself is responsible for this income. No doubt it would require some detailed planning but why should it be very expensive? A number of Carribbean states seem to have managed the transition to a republic successfully and without breaking the bank. -
Charles is King of 15 countries - but for how much longer?
RayC replied to onthedarkside's topic in World News
I'm a quick learner. -
Charles is King of 15 countries - but for how much longer?
RayC replied to onthedarkside's topic in World News
Nothing to indicate that he plans to do so, so rest easy. Btw: Do you now agree that the UK Monarch is above the law? -
Charles is King of 15 countries - but for how much longer?
RayC replied to onthedarkside's topic in World News
If Charles were to be clocked driving at 120mph he could not be prosecuted. Unless the law is changed, he could carry on driving at 120mph each and every day until he tires of the pursuit. I'd say that pretty much puts him above the law and means that he isn't accountable. -
Charles is King of 15 countries - but for how much longer?
RayC replied to onthedarkside's topic in World News
The UK monarch is not meant to be political so what are these duties that us non-Royals are genetically unable to perform? The ceremonial opening of schools/ fetes/ etc? Call me arrogant but I am confident in my ability to put on a suit, say a few words of greeting, act civilly towards strangers and cut a ribbon. Where do I apply for the job of King? -
Charles is King of 15 countries - but for how much longer?
RayC replied to onthedarkside's topic in World News
"That's the whole point. Monarchs aren't elected. By and large, they are above the law and are pretty much unaccountable." Where in this paragraph do I say that Charles has broken any laws? To reinforce my point that should he do so he could not be prosecuted: https://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/queen/is-it-true-that-the-queen-is-above-the-law-142670/?cn-reloaded=1 -
Charles is King of 15 countries - but for how much longer?
RayC replied to onthedarkside's topic in World News
That's the whole point. Monarchs aren't elected. By and large, they are above the law and are pretty much unaccountable. Usually we can't get rid of them unless there is an armed uprising. I'm British so I (largely) limit my comments on this forum to articles about the UK but if I were Belgian, Dutch, Norwegian, etc I doubt that my views on the Monarchy would be any different. I don't understand how you can reach that conclusion. I want an elected HoS but I don't crave a Putin. It's extremely debatable whether Putin was elected by means of a fair and free election but, playing Devil's Advocate and assuming that he was, the natural conclusion of your line of argument is that to avoid the possibility of a Putin type figure being elected into a position of power in the UK, we should do away with elections. That can only mean that we live under a dictatorship. Maybe s/he would be benevolent but I wouldn't bet my house on it. -
Charles is King of 15 countries - but for how much longer?
RayC replied to onthedarkside's topic in World News
So you support the arrest of individuals who are trying to keep women safe late at night? Hopefully, no women were assaulted in Westminster on Friday night/ early Saturday morning but, never mind eh? It's their own fault; shouldn't be out after dark. The main thing is that you got to enjoy the Coronation in blissful peace and tranquility. (In case anyone is in any doubt, my 2nd paragraph contains sarcasm although, obviously, I hope that no women were assaulted). -
Charles is King of 15 countries - but for how much longer?
RayC replied to onthedarkside's topic in World News
Or by way of a democratic election. -
Charles is King of 15 countries - but for how much longer?
RayC replied to onthedarkside's topic in World News
I must admit that there were more protesters than I thought. Seems like the republican movement is stronger than I thought. It's always a sign that someone has no rational argument to support their case when they resort to the pathetic 'anti- Brit' slur. Just because my vision of the UK doesn't contain doffing my cap and paying homage to 'my betters' - because of their birthright - it doesn't mean that I am anti-British. -
Charles is King of 15 countries - but for how much longer?
RayC replied to onthedarkside's topic in World News
What's the point of a protest if there is no one there to hear your message? -
Charles is King of 15 countries - but for how much longer?
RayC replied to onthedarkside's topic in World News
It's no big deal if you don't value free speech and the ability to protest peacefully. -
Charles is King of 15 countries - but for how much longer?
RayC replied to onthedarkside's topic in World News
Having reread the reports, I've changed my mind. Just as well the police intervened. Who knows what this protest could have led to: Petrograd? Kristallnacht? A narrow escape indeed. -
Charles is King of 15 countries - but for how much longer?
RayC replied to onthedarkside's topic in World News
That line being possession of a few straps and a padlock? We can all sleep safely tonight. -
Charles is King of 15 countries - but for how much longer?
RayC replied to onthedarkside's topic in World News
A handful of protesters among thousands of people who have an opposing view. Yep, a real threat to the rule of law. In any event, (1) they were removed (perhaps for their own safety) (2) it doesn't explain why protesters were arrested at the location where it was agreed that they could congregate. Unless, of course, you believe that possession of a few straps should be a criminal offence. Did you miss the bit in the link you posted where it stated;: "(Graham Smith) told BBC Radio Leeds that Republic "certainly have no intention of actually disrupting" the proceedings. "We will be very visible, we will be loud, we will be hard to miss, but the procession and the plans for the coronation will go ahead uninterrupted by us.""? -
Charles is King of 15 countries - but for how much longer?
RayC replied to onthedarkside's topic in World News
A knight (geddit!?) on the tiles with his mate Maha perhaps? -
Charles is King of 15 countries - but for how much longer?
RayC replied to onthedarkside's topic in World News
I should have been clearer. It was not the route from the Palace to the Abbey. Presumably the location of the protest - which I remind you was authorised by the police - was on the other side of the Square. -
Charles is King of 15 countries - but for how much longer?
RayC replied to onthedarkside's topic in World News
Then look the other way. -
Charles is King of 15 countries - but for how much longer?
RayC replied to onthedarkside's topic in World News
Trafalgar Square is a mile from Westminster Abbey. It is not on the procession route. If you were there specifically for the coronation then you probably wouldn't have come into contact with the protesters unless you went out of your way to confront them. -
Thank you and thank you for your polite reply. What I actually said was that tourism wouldn't be negatively affected. I should probably have added 'significantly'. It's undeniably an event and it puts the UK - or more particularly, London - centre stage for a day. However, I don't think that it has any great lasting effect on the UK's position or influence on the world stage. I don't accept the argument that the Monarchy pays for itself or is of economic benefit to the UK. The same line of argument could be used by all other kingdoms and, if this is the case, presumably some republics would adopt a monarchy? Ahh, but the UK monarchy is different: The pageantry, the history, etc. Perhaps but Thailand, for example, doesn't do badly when it comes to pageantry and I doubt many tourists go there for that reason. In addition, many other European countries have monarchies which are centuries old. If pageantry was such a money spinning, I would have thought that a few of them would make more of it.
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Charles is King of 15 countries - but for how much longer?
RayC replied to onthedarkside's topic in World News
If you read the Sky article which I posted earlier, the Republic UK protesters were in Trafalgar Square where the police agreed a protest would be permitted. The protester in St. James Park was arrested on a public order offence because he had a megaphone and the noise might upset the horses!! Upset police horses who are often deployed at football matches, large demonstrations, etc!!! The police might have stronger grounds for detaining the 'egg protester' as he had stated that he would like to disrupt proceedings. The whole point of a protest is to get your message heard. In a free society individuals have the right to protest and that freedom has been withdrawn. I don't understand how you and others can support this police action.