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more likely to be all retirees, do you really think anybody will be "grandfathered" out of it? And it will probably be only be Thai insurance that will be accepted, any "proper" insurance will be an optional extra

Correct, their assertion that it will bolster the economy, is laughable , and that it will somehow combat inequality is actually quite nauseating

Fair enough, I only ever came here visa exempt once or twice probably why I've never heard of it, Just out of interest is that when they changed the rules to limit the number of visa exempt entries by land to two per year?

I have heard of him, of course, but, I am not a teenager and probably like most on here, this is the first video of him i have ever watched, I see nothing particularly offensive or controversial in what he is saying in it. Whatever else he may have said or done in the past is irrelevant regarding this thread. Your obviously anti Tate stance is based on whatever he has previously said or done, and is nothing more than virtue signalling to others of your ilk. A sad attempt to enhance your wokeness. The stupid woman in the video probably considers herself to be woke too, So woke that she kicked off over paying a few cents extra for a cup of tea, A few cents that she could easily afford, but that would no doubt make a huge difference to the poor old woman, she had obviously upset enough to chase her. Its no surprise that , despite "running for her life" she still managed to find time to video the whole incident, skillfully playing the victim to divert from her privileged indignation at being "overcharged" and obvious lack of empathy for a poor old woman who probably hasn't got 2 cents to her name. A typical woke hypocrite And you assertion that the proceeds of overcharging end up in the pockets of local officials, effectively accusing the old woman of being some sort of unofficial tax collector working on behalf of the corrupt authorities is one of the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard here's what you said....... " "Most of these poor countries are due to the elites creaming the money for themselves. Think about that Andrew." You have just given a pretty good reason for first world countries to stop all aid to impoverished third world countries... very woke indeed "I agree there are a large number of poor people in the country but they do not get the benefit of the increase costs that foreigners pay. If they did i would be in support of it, "....... Yeah sure you would ,until you were asked to pay a few cents more than a local .you would soon be moaning on here if that happened to you. " Dude, is an utter clown who should be mocked and laughed at"..... for exposing the hypocrisy of spoilt little lefties ? " Anyone who takes this clown seriously, needs their head checking" ... In the video he makes a perfectly valid point, Sorry pal, but in the context of this thread, at least, Andrew Tate actually comes across as considerably more principled and far less hypocritical than you ,

Are you incapable of rational discussion ?, you have been unable to offer any facts or rational arguments to disprove my assertion which is that the sole reason, for the amount of accidents and the lack of general road safety is a lack of interest and a lack of incentive or motivation to change, to put it bluntly they don't care and they can't be arsed. You have painstakingly written at length, describing in some detail the many issues that contribute to this situation, most of which are actually valid points that I totally agree with, but none of them disprove my assertion, on the contrary they actually confirm it, let me try to explain In a previous post you referred to the 5 "E"s, do you remember ? 1. Education 2. Enforcement 3. Engineering 4. Emergency 5. Evaluation All of the above, as you say ,are essential to road safety, or as you correctly said " without them, Road Safety in Thailand is doomed" . you then gave a presentation of these points in detail highlighting their importance and lamenting their absence, Again i don't disagree, its far from ideal to say the least. I'm sure you will agree. that all of the above are ultimately the responsibility of the government, and previous governments, and each and every one of them has repeatedly failed to fulfill their responsibilities to any meaningful degree or as you put it yourself... "The 5 Es were first mentioned in Thailand at the ASEAN road safety conference about 2007 successive Thai governments have failed to adopt this as it would interfere with such things as the constitution, road building and other government interests For over 3 decades Thailand has had various “Road Safety Action Plans” and has espoused the virtues of the 5 “E”s (it has to be said with little effect)" That validates my assertion fully, does it not ? They have been talking about this since 2007 and have done nothing but pay lip service to it all, you yourself, have concluded that it is,in part, due to corruption, there will no doubt be other reasons, but the end result is the same, it is way down on their list of priorities, which means they don't really care, it's just not important to them The lack of interest from the general population means that no prospective government has ever seen fit to include it in any of their manifesto's as it is not a vote winner, its far more effective to just offer them 10000 baht each to get their vote. The two aren't necessarily mutually exclusive , they could offer them the 10000 and safer roads, or they could have offered them the 10000 on condition that they agreed to take some training, or something, but they did not, because again nobody would be interested, they don't care . The same reason why they think nothing of undertaking tailgating running red lights, speeding etc etc its not a lack of advanced driving skills or education,its even included in the video they watch as part of their driving test, and its only basic common sense for god's sake, it is scant disregard for the consequences , a lack of care Now if you are going to reply please do me the courtesy of addressing the points I have made, preferably in order and present your reasons why you disagree, I have no need to hear about your self perceived driving skills, and your accusations of racism are water off a ducks back and are just a convenient way for you to avoid discussing the matter in question. So stick to the script , I doubt that you can but i will allow you to prove me wrong. You consider my view racist , then it must be , but that is not what this discussion is about, and it does not mean I'm wrong , so don't waste anymore time banging that drum, address the points like I asked, if you are capable.

Gonna be a big barbeque somewhere soon

I have never heard of such a rule ever being enforced , i am not sure that it ever existed There was also theoretically a requirement to comply with some tax regulations that was never enforced either. maybe you have confused one with the other, I regularly stayed for more than 180 days throughout the 1990s and 2000s and was never pulled up over either of these regs

Convictions are never removed from your record, they remain on the police data base for ever. However after a certain period of time, which depends on the nature of the conviction, they will not be disclosed following a request for a standard CRB / DBS check. I believe there is also an enhanced check specifically for those applying for more sensitive positions but I have no idea what the parameters are regarding disclosure of previous convictions should that check be required, but I would imagine , sex crimes , violent crimes, and drug related convictions will be disclosed regardless of when they occured

There was no argument it was a simple question that you could have simply answered. Where would you go if your local was shut? I would have replied, "to the nearest suitable alternative" you chose not to, and became very defensive , which I called out , Now you are drawing further unnecessary attention to yourself , keep digging if you wish

I asked where you would go if you regular bar was closed, That is all read it again you chose not to answer and elected to protest your innocence of something you had not been accused of. Did I even suggest that if your regular bar was shut down it would be due to your behaviour, ? I did not for reasons known only to yourself you chose to interpret it that way, by all means keep digging

Do they even contain coco?

Probably the best course of action. and definitely the only comment worth taking any notice of regarding this subject, In my not so humble opinion. The rest of you can feel free to worry yourself into an early grave, and don't forget to worry about death taxes before you pop your clogs.

I honestly could not care less,

This subject is second only to covid regarding the scaremongering and fear surrounding it. And as with Covid one person has appointed themselves as scaremonger in chief.

I read somewhere that "kellog" himself was some sort of puritanical Quaker and he invented cornflakes as part of his anti masturbatory crusade. The link below seems to confirm this, and there are others. How bizarre https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/food/eat/corn-flakes-originally-created-to-clear-the-mind-of-sinful-thoughts/news-story/d22e8e7b8ed307347551c74131da4c13 Do the sugar free ones have the same intended effect ? I wish I had known about this in my youth , as I would not need to wear glasses when reading

Yes he is slagged off all the time by the wokes, most of whom have never watched his videos either, I believe he has , in the past, made certain comments that some are uncomfortable with, But I fail to see anything untoward in the comments he made in the op.

I am not arguing that I am not racist, I am asserting that the Thais do not care as much about road safety as you seem to do, You have constantly avoided discussing that assertion. Based on the current accident statistics would you say they are overly concerned about road safety, or under concerned. simple question, why can you not answer it I don't need to know about your personal driving skills or your advanced exspurt knowledge of road safety and highway design, that is not the issue

As I said before, non psychoactive metabolites of THC may indeed be detected in urine for some time after ingestion, but it is no indication of intoxication, That is why the police in the UK do not conduct urine tests, as they would not be accepted as evidence of intoxication by any court. you can argue all you like , that is an irrefutable fact, and you need to accept it

All very salient points regarding road safety,, infrastructure and highway design and none of which are particularly well implemented here , Do you agree ? Of course you do Now tell me why is that the case, Is it because the authorities and highway consultants are over concerned, I would say that's unlikely. Or is it because, they , for whatever reason , are not that concerned ?

you seem to have lost the point, My assertion is that the average Thai , or actually the majority of Thais do not care as much as you do, they barely give it a second thought, its been like this since they became mobile. Now if you think that they do care , give me a few examples to prove it ,, I gave you plenty before when I mentioned there reactions to covid Its nothing to do with their driving skills!

By all means carry on, I'm perfectly comfortable,

Now you have instantly lost all credibility and are venturing further into matters you do not understand, THC actually has a very short half life and disappears within hours, what remains are metabolites, which are not psychoactive, It is not in the blood stream either it is stored in the fat cells until excreted.. There you have just been educated, Now you can educate me , how exactly has it been shown that you are "unusually relaxed" what ever that means,when you are driving, and what is your state of mind at other times like, ? when posting on here for example?

What on earth would be the point for gods sake,

You explained nothing, I said the Thais don't care in the same way as you do, and gave ample evidence to support that which you failed to mention or disprove, electing instead to express your perceived expert knowledge of road safety whilst at the same time dismissing everybody else's input as worthless, Just to add a little weight to my hypothesis... I'm a bit the worse for wear myself tonight, I 've been down at the brother in laws farm for a bit of a late new years drink, He wasn't available earlier this week as he;s a police officer, "nai roy ek" captain or chief inspector, his deputy was there along with a few others, and one of my other brothers in law, also a police sergeant was also there in fact we travelled together in his pick up. As usual a good night was had by all, i wasn't going to mention the subject, as I didn't want to bother them with work talk on their day off, and to be honest I'd had enough of it on here, but one of the more junior guys asked the others how many deaths there had been during the 7 days. None of them knew, and everybody burst out laughing when he was told to google it and report back on monday. The evening drew to a close and we all returned home the same way we arrived. No worries, Do you get it yet? It is just not an issue for them, what more will it take for you to understand the reality of things here I have however been advised to make it clear for you that I am only referring to 99.99% of the population there will be a small minority who care

Thanks for the info, i really had no idea, another one i've heard is "gaslighting" again i've no idea but don't bother looking it up, unless you want to, in which case feel free to tell me , otherwise i'll suss it out one day myself, who makes this stuff up anyway, I always thought it was angst ridden teenage girls on "facetube" or "tik tok" Strange for a "traffic exspurt" to be using such language. I gave him a perfectly logical explanation regarding why things are the way they are here, and for some reason he just seems to have lost it, His opening response was to call me a racist, and I doubt he'll let things lie,