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2 hours ago, madmen said:

This a good question. My guess is the other sandboxes would need to have been vaccinated in preparation for their turn so flying to Chiang Mai or Pattaya etc would probably be OK but traveling to a village in issan may not. 

What's a sandbox ????

On 3/28/2021 at 10:05 AM, trainman34014 said:

They are taught at School that they are the most intelligent and Superior Race in Asia.........nuff said !

Which is why every new idea becomes a hub.......Thailand is the hub of the universe in their minds so must be the hub of everything in it too.

Hub of road deaths included.

On 3/26/2021 at 7:14 AM, Kerryd said:

Agreed.
Keep  in mind that pre-pandemic they were almost at the 40 mil arrivals mark.
IF the vaccinations work (iffy as they never really had a chance to properly research and test them before they went into mass production) they will start letting people back in. And around the world, life will return to a semblance of normalcy and people who've been cooped up at home will be itching to travel.

(A lot of people have this weird notion that the entire planet has been out of work since the crisis began and therefore have no money. Which is really dumb. Even in Thailand, the vast majority of people are still working. Just not as many in the touristy spots, which some seem to think is the only thing people do in this country even though International Tourism only accounts for 12-16% of the total GDP. Gee, I wonder what makes up the other 84-88% of the GDP if tourism is the only thing keeping the country running ?) 

3 years to get back to where they were at the end of 2019 basically. Once the virus has been contained (more or less) and things start getting back to normal, people will start travelling again.

And 99.9999% won't even know about "random" lockdowns (which is BS to begin with as there were NO "random" lockdowns), which wouldn't be an issue anyways. If the vaccinations and containment have been effective.
Just like 99.9999% won't have a clue about the racism present. (Most of the tourists that come here have no clue about things like double pricing because they never see it. It's the expats and "genuine tourists" living here on multiple tourist visas that see the things like foreigners being charged 5-10 times more than the locals to see the same trees and waterfalls or whatever.)

THINK about it. Tourism numbers dropped the year after the Tsunami in the Andaman Sea (which devastated Phuket amongst other places). Up to 2004 the numbers had been steadily increasing. They dropped in 2005 (because of the Tsunami) and then reached a new high in 2006. One year was all it took before they started getting even more tourists than before the Tsunami.

Even when all the problems were happening with the "red" and "yellow" shirts, with shootings and grenades being thrown, the airport being taken over, the (former) PM fleeing to escape a prison sentence and military coups - the number of arrivals kept climbing !! (Apparently the tourists didn't pay any attention to the TVF members who back then claimed that all those things would kill tourism.)

In fact, the numbers were climbing so fast that within a couple years of opening the new Suvarnabhumi airport, they had already reached it's maximum capacity and they had to start the first expansion years earlier than originally planned. Phase 2 was also started early and they just announced approval for another major upgrade.
(One of the reasons U-Tapao was expanded and the road networks improved in Rayong/Chon Buri was to try and divert some of the air traffic from Suvarnabhumi to U-Tapao to reduce the strain.)

They won't get 40 mil arrivals overnight. If they are able to let people in this year, they might get a couple million by the end of the year. Next year would be more. 2023 might, if things are going well, be around half of the pre-pandemic level and maybe by the end of 2024 they could be close to the 40 mil mark again.

Here's a clue. A couple months ago it was announced that China had already passed the amount of exports (monthly) it had been doing before the pandemic. Which means two things.
Most of China is still working (and probably dying to go on holiday somewhere).
Most of the world is still buying whatever China is exporting (meaning most of the world is still working and making money).

But it all hinges on the vaccinations and containment of the virus. If those are effective, tourists will start returning to Thailand and they will - easily - pass the numbers they were receiving before pandemic.

And all the "doom and gloomers" who think everything is the "straw that will break the back" of tourism in Thailand will have to find a new straw to whine about. Just like they do whenever there is an alcohol ban and they chime up that it will (yawn) be that "straw" then have to watch as even more tourists arrive despite their claims.

 

I dislike this post probably because its so damned accurate.

You've hit the nail squarely on the head even though I am one of those nay sayers you mention.

Sometimes it takes a voice of reason to open the eyes and see another perspective...........cheers.

They try hard with lots of new ideas and initiatives but dont execute the plans very well.

Makes me sad to see so many good ideas fall apart through lack of management.

Anyway, nice photo without masks guys.

4 hours ago, Pmbkk said:

 

And at any time of day they are open... ????- on my Soi in central BKK I go for a walk around 7 a.m. and I can guarantee there's a group of guys sat facing the Mom and Pop shop having a beer. Not drunk, they've just finished their shifts at the local large hotel and having an after work beer & chat. Don't see anything wrong with it.

Couldn't agree more.....sensible, social drinking.

If someone turns up to vote drunk would it make any difference to how they cast their vote.

They just cant help themselves , can they ?

Its been going on for long and for so many that they see it as an entitlement. 

They honestly believe they are due the money because of position. 

Scum bags.

8 hours ago, Curt1591 said:

 

Highlight of my daily commute......thai girls in shorts on motorbikes.!

52 minutes ago, Leaver said:

 

I think for many guys living in Issan, their Thai lady has their farang well and truly where they want them.   

 

How does someone who works all their life, and aspires to retire in Thailand, most probably with sun, sea, sand and seafood nearby, end up in a small town in Issan, where they will see out the rest of their days? 

 

If you ask them, they will say it was their choice and how great Issan is, and for a small percentage, that may be true, but for the majority, I don't believe them.  

 

 

They could always become a youtube vlogger and wander around a polluted,  stinking up country city telling us how great the farang food and nightlife is.

Maybe even throw in a few clips of the new house build for good measure.

But dont forget to take the missus everywhere for translation services and to try the thai food in a farang eatery.

Can't see the relevance of the soi cowboy photo. 

Plenty of thai frequented places they could have used.

I wonder why they used a farang area and not a thai arwa.?

21 hours ago, RotBenz8888 said:

Anyone wants to join an area quarantine while there's an Indian wedding? 

I would and I'm a white euro guy.

Indian weddings are great.....loads of food,  music, dancing, booze. 

They really are excellent hosts. 

So kind and generous.

If you're  staying in a hotel that has one just pop in and say congrats and youll be there all night.

On 2/20/2021 at 9:46 AM, BritManToo said:

I'm not French ..... why does it give me a bad name?

If you are a farang it does.....thais don't,  ir cant be bothered, to distinguish between nationalities.

If you are white then you are a farang.

Its just ignorant racism but the education system doesn't offer them open thinking. 

Thats why black people are just called chocolate man/woman.

So sad but we should try to help them understand, poor little buffalo jockeys.

On 2/18/2021 at 10:20 AM, FritsSikkink said:

If they don't have a work permit, there is no control who is teaching, could be a pedophile. So I think it is very important that they do check.

Yes, because paedophiles always declare it in their applications,  don't they ?

3 hours ago, colinneil said:

So what excuse will Anutin come up with when i does not arrive on wednesday?

It was a misunderstanding. 

9 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

How many times do I need to write that;

1. Thailand does not have a naval vessel inventory that will allow for the type of operations needed to surveil its fishing fleet or to protect its cargo  shipping that comes through the high piracy prone routes?

2. I have already explained 2X that Thailand's fishing fleet has been implicated in illegal fishing, particularly in the Indian Ocean. Thousands of Thai vessels work in foreign waters sometimes legally and sometimes illegally. The EU has already sanctioned Thailand for this. The agreement for lifting of sanctions was for Thailand to  police its foreign fishing.

3. Do you know what is in the the Thai naval fleet inventory? Aside from its frigates Thailand does not have any vessels that can easily or cost effectively deployed for offshore foreign water activity. The submarines are far more cost efficient to use for foreign activity than the frigates.  Look at Thailand's patrol vessels. They are intended for close offshore work. They are mostly older 30+years. They are not appropriate for the tasks described.The submarines are cost effective.

4. Do you know how reliant Thailand is on on the  Indian ocean for shipping? Are you not aware that  3 of the worst regions for ocean piracy are South China Sea, Malacca Straits Indian ocean with critical area the region around Somalia? Thailand uses these shipping lanes for its regional sea trade.

 

So easy to criticize Thailand having some small submarine capability. Australia has 6 submarines and has a smaller fishing fleet and ocean cargo exposure than Thailand.  Australia submarine mission sets several priorities, but the lead 5  are;

1. Intelligence collection and surveillance;

2. Maritime strike and interdiction;

3. Forward intervention activity.

4. Interdiction interdiction of shipping;

5. Support of land operations

 

How areThailand needs  so much more different than this? You  don't believe Thailand has these requirements?  You think Australia  submarines operate exclusively within 100 km of Australia?

Canada has a few submarines. What do you think they are used for? Israel has submarines. The sea off of Israel is not particularly deep. Your logic would have Israel  a country with a much much smaller coastline and no offshore  island spread like Thailand shut down its submarine fleet.

 

now why didn't Prayut just say that.?

I don't agree with you but I respect the way you objectively and politely state your point backed up by potential realities.

You sir should be a government advisor......here, have a rolex and a kilo of brown.

His family got him out of the country and secured his safety from the authorities.

Now they are embarrassed and vilified by the population on a daily basis. The embarrasment and loss of face is the real punishment to the lot of them.

Want to punish a Thai ?  Forget prison, cause them loss of face......they cant bear it.

This hiso family are suffering everyday.