CraigInBangkok
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Hey all. Was wondering, will it now be quicker to get a motorcycle taxi from the new Kasetsart BTS to Immigration or is Mo Chit still the best option?
cheers Craig
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UPDATE .... So everything went well today. Got there just before 10, got everything submitted just before lunch and got passport back just after lunch.
We had A different IO who was much nicer this time and even laughed a couple of times.
We managed to get the affirmation though. My wife was reading online that there was no way they would destroy the original as it can be used for evidence. Apparently this turns out to be true. We just had to beg the man to get off his backside and look in a box that wasn't at front of the boxes as it was 6 years old.
So to anyone who gets told they don't keep the affirmation at a district office just be persistent!
I can tell you all that, my first marriage extension along with the BOI shit before has been the most stressful week of my life, but I'm happy I went with principles over an agent. If you keep using them, you can't really complain about corruption.
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6 minutes ago, Maestro said:
This is very disturbing, which is the reason why it should be brought to the attention of the Immigration Commissioner.
The Bankok immigration office does not seem to make this request of all applicants for a retirement extension and I wonder how they select their extortion targets.
I know my face isnt a face of joy but I cant help how my aging brow lines make me appear. ????
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13 minutes ago, Maestro said:
What number is the "affirmation to marry" on the Thai list? I'd like to see what immigration calls it in Thai.
Wifes at work at moment and cant read Thai ...but I would assume its number 3
Edit : Just to confirm we have kor lor 2 and marriage certificate. The district office could'nt give us a copy of the affidavit as they dont keep them after a couple of years
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11 minutes ago, Maestro said:
According to recent news sources, Police Lieutenant General Surachate Hakpal has asked people who have been wronged to contact him as follows:
- on his mobile phone +66 81 644 0430
- on the hotline 1155
- on his facebook page https://m.facebook.com/SurachateHakparn
Sources:
thanks for that Maestro! If any problem on Tuesday we will be contacting atleast one of the above if not all.
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5 minutes ago, Maestro said:Immigration has no business asking an applicant for a marriage extension for the affirmation of freedom to marry. With such a request they are asking the applicant to prove that at the time he married he was not already married or otherwise legally prohibited from marrying. In other words, they want evidence that he was not then and is not now a bigamist.
Indirectly, immigration is also throwing suspicion on the district office that performed the marriage that they did so without being in possession of this affermation.
I am quite sure that if the Immigration Commissioner heard about this and knew the implications, he would not put up with it.
If you could drop him a note before Tuesday, it would be much obliged!! ????
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16 minutes ago, BritManToo said:
You could always go to Suvannakhet and get a multi-entry non-o, no financials, no affirmation.
I think this maybe the way to go if all fails at chaengwattana.
for TallGuyJohninBKK ...
here are pics of the list ... sorry they are not in pristine condition and a little blurry, but should be able to read. These are printed on one piece of paper.
EDIT :- the crossing out of lines was already printed. Not edited by me
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1 minute ago, mpchamp said:
I'm quoting myself as I did some research. "Affirmation to marry" is the document we got from our embassies certifying we are not currently married in our home country. In my embassy, we call it certificate of legal capacity to register mariage (I know it's long ). If that's the case, I still have a copy of this document. But the original and translated with stamp are submitted to amphur when we register our marriage.
yeah I cant find any copies of these, we dont think we have copies (we must have, we have copies of everything) and our district office has thrown them away.
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1 minute ago, mpchamp said:
@CraigInBangkok, when you said you have 20 days left, did you mean after you got cancelled you non-immig IB visa extension (I assumen its IB) and work permit they give you 20 days to stay? In what I understand, they only give 7 days after they cancelles WP and visa extension.
I am considering (if possible) to change my non-immig ib extension and apply for 1 year extension based on marriage before I quit work then cancel work permit. Do you think that's possible?
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The 20 days extra is the date my company told boi I was leaving. I am not sure what my origianl visa class was but it was some kind of B. On the extension stamp it just says non-imm, but I guess your visa is tied to your company anyway.
My situation became a pain because i had to cancel my visa and work permit before starting the new process for extension. It may be because my visa extension and permit were done through BOI but I guess that it applies to all non-B's. My company gave me enough time to try and get this done. Pretty sure alot of companies wont do this though.
I have been thinking about an agent to get this process done, but I resent paying all that money. I have been in a real relationship for 14 years and tried to do everything by their rules, so I think an agent asking for 15000bht is taking the piss.
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22 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:
If you still have that list, can you post a copy or photo of it here?
Also, what do you mean about, "seem a little bit hidden"?
I am on an old iPad at the moment which is very slow, will try an upload a pic of both sides in a bit when I switch to my pc.
when I say hidden I mean things like...
there is no mention of the affirmation in English.
and from the form
6) Family picture of applicant with Thai wife and child/children.
which actually translates to this...
6) a picture of you and wife outside apartment building, outside front door where you can see apartment number, inside kitchen, living room and bedroom. All the other pictures I had with my family and wife's family were discarded.
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12 minutes ago, BritManToo said:
I would ask the lady wanting the affirmation copy for her recommendation.
She told us to get a copy of the blue book of our apartment owner and try again without affirmation. Maybe her boss will let it go, but she was not willing to ask him/her until we come back.
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1 minute ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:
Craig, did someone at CW Immigration give you a printed list of their current marriage extension requirements? If so, who? Thanks....
We got a list from an L8 booth. That's where they sent us the first time and we also got the same list handed to us a different time from the L queue desk. Some requirements seem a little bit hidden.
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3 minutes ago, Corruption 101 said:
Jesus Christ. My last extension was a stack of A4 pages at least two inches thick.
What storage facility do you use and how much per month?
I think I am responsible for the loss of many forests due to the amount of paper I've used during visa preparation over the last 15 years.
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4 minutes ago, BritManToo said:
The answer (as always), pay a VISA agent.
PS. I always kept photocopies of every document I ever had in Thailand.
Yeah I was thinking about that last night. Can you recommend a good one?
I never throw anything away so it must be here somewhere but I turned our apartment upside down last night and so far the affirmation remains hidden. I did find the affirmation receipt from uk embassy though. Great!
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7 hours ago, jackdd said:
Why didn't you get permanent residency?
I never had to worry about extending my visa before and honestly the thought never crossed my mind.
7 hours ago, emptypockets said:Why do you need an affirmation to marry if you are already married? Perhaps a translation problem?
This is the bit I don't understand either. You need to submit the translated affirmation in order to obtain kor lor 2 and marriage certificate. Apparently the affirmation is needed the first time you apply for an extension based on marriage. I guess most people get married and then do some kind of visa/extension the first year they get married so the affirmation is easy to get.
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Hi all, so .....
I have been living and working in Thailand for the past 15 years, with my wife for 14 years, married for the last 6. I got my visa and work permit through BOI.
Gave up work and thought, I will just cancel my BOI visa and work permit, then reapply for a new extension, but with reason as marriage at Chaengwattana. Easy!!!!!
Obviously this was wrong. Cancelling Visa and work permit from BOI not nearly as easy as you think it would be, especially if you don't want to leave on the day you finish work. Anyway managed to get that done with 20 days left. During the time of quitting work we have been to BOI and Chaengwattana 3 times each to cancel and get info, check paperwork etc.
So, today we submit papers for a new extension and the officer at the counter is not happy , won't even look at me and she wants 2 things.
1- a copy of apartment owners blue book (ok, I know there was no mention of this, but no worries, I can do that).
2 - affirmation to marry. (We were concerned about this when the list they gave us, mentions this in Thai but not is English. We had already been to the place where you get the kor lor 2 and marriage certificate and he said "don't keep the affirmation after a couple of years". We called the call center "don't worry about it" and no mention of it when we went to check paperwork.
I try to tell her that we can't get this document and she tells my wife without so much as a glance at me, that maybe her boss would let it go and maybe he wouldn't, but she's not going to check until we get copy of apartment owners blue book and she said "we should have queued to check docs earlier". "Well actually, we already did that last week and they told us that everything was ok but update your bank book". I think that just annoyed her.
Anyway just a bit of rant as I don't know what else I can do. ... And If you see a man going ape shit in Chaengwattana on the news next week, you'll know they refused my visa.
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Kasetsart BTS to Chaengwattana Immigration
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ah okay, I was hoping to shorten the death ride... thanks for the reply!