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15 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

That is really strange. I suspect he may of had a previous history he failed to mention.

Was he asked to show at least the equivalent of 20k baht in cash and did he have it?

What was the reason for the denial of entry? It will shown on the document given him and stamp as a number that indicates the reason under section 12 of the immigration act.

Strange is a very typical thing in Thailand. Wealth of evidence it is a Hub of both airport and land border denials of entries and deportations without any evidence or cause. The only solution is to fly over the Thailand. Avoid the cockroach infested deportation jail cells and smelly urine 555

8 hours ago, Caldera said:

I can say from personal and recent experience that your friend shouldn't have any problem applying for a tourist visa in Hanoi. They just need to make sure they have everything they ask for.

 

That is assuming that Vientiane just rejected their application and didn't put any remark or voided visa in their passport 

Visa does not guarantee entry. Take note, he will be deported back to his home country if flying in from Hanoi and denied entry. Vietam refuses to accept Thai rejects unlike Malaysia. 

9 hours ago, SteveK said:

Or 30 days to figure out which visa he will be getting next time or he's going to be denied entry.

 

ED visas are suspect. Either he's got enough cash to apply for an Elite visa, he's retired and qualifies for a Non-O retirement visa, or he's got 30 days to find a lady who is willing to marry him (so there's no time to waste!).

 

 

You talk as if Thailand is the only country in the World, lol. My God man. Go to Vietnam, Philippines. IMO much better looking women. Try Mindanao.  However Thailand is the cheapest for an apartment. If life is about cheap apartments stay in Thailand. 

11 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

There is another thing to consider. Let's say he gets a setv in say Penang. The next hurdle would be flying into bkk airports. Would be best advised to try obtain setv and enter via border. 

That would not be easy if he tried to get visa in say Saigon.

Recently member got a void in Saigon and took punt on visa exempt flight to CM. Was successful. So for others in similar boat CM might be option. For how long? 

Your friend did it back to front. Always save the border exempt to last. 

He must use a border. Too risky to use Thai airports now. Youd be aware of this if you have read the volumes of reports of people being denied and deported even with valid visas. 

On 10/4/2019 at 11:01 AM, Caldera said:

It's a bit more complex than that. There have been several waves of Chinese immigrants to Thailand, many of them obviously Thai citizens for many generations by now. There have also been periods in Thai history when Chinese immigration has been seen as a threat, leading to a backlash.

 

Chinese working illegally in Thailand can and do get arrested. Others get away with it, probably less a question of blending in than knowing how to grease the wheels.

Tea money works well for Chinese citizen hoteliers in Chiang Mai. I've got nothing against it. Generally a friendly bunch. Ive enjoyed chatting with them in the past. The point I was making is that it is a croc of sh*t to deny entry to farang allegedly entering Thailand for working illegally with no evidence when Chinese citizens, not Thai Chinese citizens openly run hotels and youngsters openly check in guests, telling me they are Chinese. 10 million Thais have Chinese blood according to Wikipedia. What does it really matter if they allow another million in to service tourists. Good luck to them. For all the tea in China 555. 

On 10/4/2019 at 10:23 AM, ubonjoe said:

There are many Chinese whose family have been here for decades if not a century. They are Thai citizens from birth.

Same for many Indians you see here.

That is obvious. I am talking about Chinese citizen obviously. 

On 10/4/2019 at 9:11 AM, FredGallaher said:

It appears you fit the profile as an undesirable. Then they saw all the visas. To shorten things you could have quickly pointed out the Non O and you would have been done. But then you wouldn't have to write a long winded response. 

An undesirable. You are so funny. Do you belong to the Amish religion by any chance 555

13 minutes ago, FredGallaher said:

Just like everywhere in the world, if you start with an attitude you'll get it back. If you are nice you'll generally get nice treatment. 

BTW a wai tells a lot. If you don't know a friendly smile or nod will do.

Many Chinese running guest houses and hotels in Chiang Mai. They can blend in better, obviously. You are making wild assumptions. No problem working illegally or running hotels as long as you are Chinese. Many are also employed in banks. This has been going on for a century. Chinese are very welcome in Thailand. Same rights as Thais. 

48 minutes ago, FredGallaher said:

The IO don't care what you think. Most of the Asians passing immigration entry points probably have proper papers or they wouldn't be passing the official border. They most likely have a labor contractor arranging things for them. You on the other hand need to show you are legit. You can thank all those who previously gamed the system for making things difficult. If you are entering as a tourist you need to convince the IO you don't intend to stay long term and work. 

They had no agents, simply stamped in as tourists when they highly unlikely. They were not part of the jetset that's for sure, looked like they didn't have a brass razoo  to their name. You must be blind to think it not prejudice. But my god why do people stay in Thailand is beyond me. Far nicer places in ASEAN. I fly over Thailand. I don't need the unexpected expected anymore. I did love the adrenalin for some time. Thats what I loved about Thailand, the uncertainty and danger. To depart Thailand alive seemed a miracle after reading the macabre violent news. Many have no idea how dangerous Thailand is.  Game the system. You don't sound like much fun. Don't like games  555 ????

On 9/27/2019 at 7:38 AM, jacko45k said:

I think 500,000  baht means you expect to live 'rural'.... Pretty much all rural areas are far cheaper than the tourist areas. The OP previously posted about an Elite Visa and having family.... this strikes me as at odds with that idea.

Westerners who end up living in places like Nakhon Nowhere, have usually followed a Thai wife/ partner back to her home village/area, and the support that includes is a necessity. Language barriers are formidable. 

if you look at Tee-pak.com web page you will see it is not expensive anywhere in Thailand to rent an apartment or house. However the stress of dealing with immigration at 70 may be the death of you. 

2 hours ago, spiekerjozef said:

Thanks for your effort to verify this. It would be really good news...

You can't have been here very long if you think this won't turn to custard, either on returning to Thailand or at extension time or school going bust. Fun and games, always adrenalin filled, the unexpected and <deleted> hitting the fan is the expected, no country for a person with a weak heart 555 I pity the pensioner with heart disease

5 minutes ago, Hoppyone said:

Not if you get a 6 month multi entry visa from Thai Embassy in your home country before you leave

You can be denied and deported with an MTEV. You shouldn't write untruths. Thai airports are insane. You need to find another destination.

When you enter a Thai airport you can be denied entry with a ticket and a visa. Why bother flying into a Thai airport and risk this. You need to use your brain mate. Enter by land only, or go fabulous exotic countries like the Philippines or Vietnam. 

While there are nice Thai people. Ive been fortunate to meet some . However generally farang is the scapegoat for all Thailand's ills and we farang get the brunt of it. Try the Philippines. Immigration officers respect the law and the people are so warm there. It may come a surprise to you, but, you don't need Thailand and they certainly prefer their own. 

I will never fly into Thailand. It is too risky. And I've been out of Thailand for 10 months. If you read about the consequences of being denied entry it's not worth the risk. Denied entry equals defaced passport, and air ticket 5 times the regular price and no guarantee being allowed to enter your country of choice and therefore being deported back to USA like a most wanted criminal and at an exorbitant cost. These airports have become a joke. So much for Thailand's dream of being a hub of all things. Even land borders are not guaranteed. I take it your suitcase has has wheels. Let us know how your apartment searching goes in Vietnam. Philippines is amazing, beautiful women. I think you'll find Danang dull, kind people though. I like Hanoi the most. Also think of how your passport will be defaced if denied entry into Thailand. This is going to give you huge problems entering other countries.

57 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Just posting this to add to your comments about Vietnam. Yes one year multi would suit me perfect. Being AU not available. For some years now I obtain 4 3month multi every year to Vietnam. $70usd each. So 280/year. 

Many countries are visa exempt (15 day) eg UK and many other. USA, AU and others not.

 

Where do you get your $70USD 3 month visa?

On 9/5/2019 at 10:40 AM, lamyai3 said:

No problem, if you have three spare pages left it will be more than enough. 

Entering and exiting Laos will take up 2 pages if immigration officer is economic with stamp placement. You can not enter Laos with less than six months validity. A border hop to Malaysia would be less stressful. 

18 hours ago, Satcommlee said:

The flight may have been overbooked and they looking to bump people off...

I agree 

19 hours ago, Longcut said:

Thailand thinks just because the have a rule or law, then the rest of the world must be following their lead and that they also have the same rules or laws. 

Same happened to myself going to Korea. Strangely the woman was dressed in a Thai Airways uniform but in the Jin  Air booth. I noticed only farang were being sent to her. I told her to <deleted>  off because the rules to enter Korea is no onward ticket for my passport. She quickly backed down. Incidentally the Thai Airways office was not far away and I think they sell tickets. I'm using Malaysia as my hub now. Thai airports have descended into madness. Use Thai airports at your peril. BTW no onward ticket required by Laos either. Looks like Thai airports, scam city. The old scam was when you needed an urgent ticket staff would direct you to horrendously expensive agents working in airport, before online ticket sales. Perhaps they were hoping you were not internet savvy and they would get a kick back from buying a ticket from these unscrupulous agents who work without authority in Bangkok airports.