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We just got 2 ranches that gave us prices for the per kilo payout. Is 95 baht a kilo for male Angus a decent price right now? And the second price was 96 baht a kilo for either male or female. Both will work with us on the feed program & even show & tell on how to mix feeds to fatten the cows up. Seems decent for the price par Kilo but I am new to the cow game so I don't know Sht!

My Bad Hereford. I am new to cows More of a Auto painter & Mechanic. I wish I knew all the breeds but in time I am sure I will.Thanks for the correction so I don't sound foolish!

18 minutes ago, kickstart said:

Seven rie is more than enough for just 3 cows and calves , if your grass is of good quality ,if it will be a few months before you move in ,and the land used to be sugar cane ,put in a crop of sun hemp ,or mung beans let it grow then plough it in as a green manure,it will put some organic matter back in to the soil .

As for 1 rie per head for grazing or cut and cart ,may be OK for our temperate climate ,but here not here Issan has a lot of very light land not rain for a few weeks and grass will stop growing ,ok if you have irrigation .

If your grass is of good quality say Mulato II and has ha plenty of fertilizer applied and the land is fertile you might get 1 rie /1 head but for most farms it will be the best part of 2 rie /head .

FJ. The normal rule of thumb for LWG live weight gain is 6 kg of feed to 1 kg of weight gain, but a lot will depend on the quality of the roughage ,with some young leafy Mulato II and your 14 % concentrate it will be 6:1 ,but if the roughage is poor quality ,road side grass or rice straw ,it will be nearer 7:1.

The OP is looking for some Angus or Brangus cattle ,so am I, not easy to find ,we have a Beefmaster bull he is doing well ,they are a few breeders in Thailand ,not cheap but worth the investment ,have a look at Thai Facebook for Angus or Brangus ,and Beefmaster cattle.

Thanks Kickstart! I was thinking along the same lines with Sunn hemp to start & Mulato ll. The mixtures for the feed I will be learning I am sure as I get into it. My Gal just found a purveyor that buys & sells Angus & I think Heifer & other premium brands has feeds to buy & will sell all stuffs I need & when the cattle or cows(I don't think 6 cows rates as cattle) But the site says he will come up from Issan & pick up the cows that are ready to sell. Alisa is going to talk to him tomorrow. I guess his business as an exporter of fine beef to Europe & it looks like it makes more money per Kilo going the quality route, at any rate this should be a good contact along with the ace help from the Farm forum here.Since we are not looking to make huge profits...just enough to augment existing income this may just work out fine as long as I don't get roped into paying family members for a salary. Damn & I will have to forgo eating the Angus beef myself.The only food I really miss in the U.S.!

I would love to get some Angus for sure.Where the Thai market is that they sell the cows I wasn't seeing much Angus or Heifer even as hybrids. Since it will be probably 6 months to get 300 meters electric lines in & a borehole drilled(the water witch guy is meeting us out on site Saturday-He knows this area & is real certain there is a good water supply for a borehole) & building the cow shed & getting the Nitrogen fixing portion done in the soil I am looking at 6 months or so. We live in Pattaya area & will be taking some time to get this going.Especially in Buriram it is a nightmare with the Poo Ye Baan in regards to covid & out of towners. But I really appreciate all the input. I can't believe this will be the 4th house I have built in Thailand so I have learned patience for sure.

I heard about the bumpy skin disease but I had thought hoof & mouth was gone long ago. I have a lot to learn.

14 minutes ago, cooked said:

I gave up on cattle as a source of income some time ago although we still have 5 Brahmins and a nice breeding bull. Everything would be going well until we got foot and mouth (twice) lumpy skin disease (right now) and a year where we couldn't get enough grass and had to sell at a loss. Get your pasture fixed with beasts rotating between fields and I guess 7 rai is just about enough.

Good luck!

5 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Please, please, please do not plant cane. It is utterly destructive to the environment and the air. A truly noxious commodity. 

Nooo that is what we will be fighting the neighbors have about 7 Rai of sugar cane growing & it looks like our property stopped growing a couple years ago. After living in Maui Hawaii for 11 years Sugar cane is the last type of vegetation I want to cultivate. Hopefully the cane has not slammed the soil into oblivion. In Hawaii they used copius amounts of hideous pesticides & really you need lots of Rai to make anything on it. Probably like Mangos 40 Rai minimum & at 66 I am not looking for that hard of a lifestyle.

Thanks so far. I plan on putting down Sunn hemp Crotalaria Junceo seeds after I have a tractor get the soil ready for seeds & then follow it with Mulato 2 grass for feed soon after purchase if property is as good as it seems. I will also build the shelter for the cows before I purchase. Our breeder we have been set up with has a cow sick now so he suggested we wait for 4-6 months anyway. He has some mighty fine cattle! I wish they were Angus or Bragus would be nice but they command a hefty sum if you can find them.

Hi,

I am looking at purchasing 7 Rai in Buriram on Saturday that My Gal & I would like to get Brahman hybrid &  Charolais for raising maybe 3 females with calves. Is this sustainable along with the recommended feed for only 7 Rai or am I too hopeful? I realize the cattle will make 5000 baht to 8,000 baht or so & am just looking to make a meager amount so I can live a mild farm life & be around animals. I studied to be a Vet in my 20's & worked on a ranch many moons ago but can pick up the ball fairly easy.

The other question is this land used to be used for sugar cane & I am wondering besides needing nitrogen to be put back in the soil if there is more I need to know IE: pesticides. I have worked on Farms growing but more experience in crops than cattle. I have been reading some great posts on site & look forward raising some cattle(not a lot) some chickens & maybe some catfish along with fruit trees & veggies to eat-which we are doing now in Bang Saray where I am now. Thanks for the help!!!!!!!!!!! ???? Barry

Smooth sailing all the way. The checkpoints I saw today were there but unmanned. Most likely from New Years. Hopefully we don't go into shutdown mode later on cause of Covid! Thanks for the replies. Mods can close this topic if they like!

Went down today & got my gal her phone. They were open but seems like 30% less vendors probably due to only 2 buyers out of all the stalls when we were there.

Business as usual no roadblocks. with all the hype out of Chonburi I had to wonder. But Patts not Chonburi. And ya you can get fakes on Lazada. The dead give away is getting the item for 50%-60% less but you can return within a week & wait 2-3 weeks for a refund later. Both venue's have pros & cons.

Thanks for the replies! Mods can close this if they want.

Thanks Peter. It will be at some time but nice to know it is open maybe till friday when we go down there.

Thanks again

I think Alisa saw the remnants of the New Years checkpoints. She went into town the Jan 2nd.

Thanks for the replies.

My girl went down to Ban Ampur & saw 2 testing sites & her neighbor said there was a checkpoint in South Pattaya. Just checking if they are active already.

Does anyone know if they shut down Tuk Com again . We need to get a new phone Friday & wondering if the stalls are still open?

Thanks

Does anyone know the checkpoints set up or being set up for Covid tests. I heard so far check points of Bang Sare, Ban Amphur & south Pattaya so far can anyone confirm the check points? Thanks

Got my answer from the clinic nothing other than oils available. Moderators can close this topic. Thanks

Does anyone know if the Origene Medical clinic that sells cannabis Flowers (not the THC or CBD oils) but the actual plant they advertise for medical use is any good . What is the THC content & the cost. Their site doesn't list much about what you get for the 500 baht-3000 baht after you get the doctor & blood count paid for.

Anyone tried their product. I really don't want to go back to the states to get more Vicodin but weed does work. Thanks for any hands on replies

Barry

16 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

You realise walking st is mostly closed daytime, has been for a long time, maybe ever

Of course been here almost 17 years, but it u8sually has 15-40 people at 1 pm. The only sign of life was 2 delivery trucks ahead of my Kawi & 1 person walking. Everything is closed so no reason for anyone to be out there.

Wow we must be lucky in Bang Saray we never paid any tax or penalty just when we sell 3rd house so far & only paid what the going rate for turning a house tax. They threatened to charge tax for  land without a house a couple years back but nothing ever became of it. No onje around our are or the 3 areas here has ever had to pay penalties.They don't even collect the 25 baht a month for garbage removal. We just go in every 2 years & pay the bin.

I went to Pattaya for my 90 day report on Friday & Pattaya beach all the way down to walking street was like a morgue. Even traffic was next to nil. I don't know how the bar or restaurant owners can possible survive the high rents & no patrons. I only saw 4 people on walking street at 1pm . Pretty sad....But much better than having Covid overload like the irresponsible countries(U.S. In general thanks to Trump)

They have two distinct types the old school most definitely has asbestos fibers & the newer replacements to the old ones are 1/2 the weight & is a plastic composite. The newer ones don't use asbestos.It is like asking someone is your food made outside of you house is made with MSG. Most of the time if they say no MSG you know they are lying. But the heavy roof panels mostly do contain asbestos. Hence the heavy weight of the roof panels.

I used Dulux Weathershield for all my outside and boundary walls and highly recommend it as it still looks like new after 7 years.

Choice of Champions!

I am with you on this one Crossy. a couple of 2000 liter Sandstone's or some type of poly is so much better & not that expensive nowadays. Easier to clean & not much grows on the inside at all. I never had algae or any other <deleted> other than the occasional sludge buildup that Jerks who wash the bottoms of their trucks in the lake. It will leave slight deposit in the height of hot season.Nothing that a little bleach & a scrub a dub won't fix. In fact the only reason why we have a filter is for that reason. Cement is great for a septic system but nothing beats Poly lasts for many moons! our old house we sold tank is 15 years old & still fully intact.

ABS may suit your need better. You can get fittings that seal leaks & it isn't that much more to go all out. We switched to ABS for our sprinkler setup for 5 rai & it was a joy not having to tend leaks all the time. The fittings are   just much better than the PVC that they slam out that never really seems to fit anything. ABS is made to better specs & available at sprinkler shops & the like.