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Come on, levelling many residential towers within minutes in the 'Remal' neighbourhood without warnings is not a deliberate targeting of innocent civilians? Really? Can I borrow your logic and ask what if Hamas levelled a residential tower in Tel Aviv? That would not be described as deliberate targeting of innocent civilians?
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I know it's hard to convince ideological Zinonist of anything that does not match their twisted belief, but I will try. As of this morning, out of a total 2,215 killed since last Saturday, 724 of them are Palestinian children and 458 are women. Another 8714 were injured. These figures are a proof that your criminal entity Israel is in fact targeting women and children. Criminals of the Israeli army must have known that levelling a residential tower would inevitably lead to loss of lives among civilians, not rocket science. Now go on and ask for sources and links and photos to dilute facts. Pathetic
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No civilian should have to be given this choice, leave or die. Absolutely criminal behaviour that can only be committed by a terrorist state like Israel.
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You keep misusing this term Anti-semitic and labelling it to anyone on this form who you disagree with. If criticising the current ongoing criminal behavior of Israel is Gaza and the 24/7 bombing of women and children is anti-semetic then that would be a badge of honor.
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The moral position is to stop intentional targeting of civilians in the first place. Do you know how many women and children were killed in the last 24 hours alone in Gaza?
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The terrorist state Israel would never allow the establishment of a Palestinian State because that is counterproductive. They need this situation to continue forever to justify getting billions in aid and support from the western world for them under the pretence of being the protectors of democracy and as the tiny peaceful nation under threat from barbaric neighbors. Establishing a Palestinian state would destroy this big lie. Hence, Israel has been making excuses and misusing the so-called peace talks process for 30 years (since the Oslo peace agreement) not to leave the occupied territories or allow any chance of a Palestinian State. To the contrary, they have been confiscating more Palestinian lands and establishing more illegal Jewish settlements in the heart of the west bank and East Jerusalem to make the idea of a Palestinian State practically impossible.
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You come across as not so smart troll and a bully with unambiguous Zionist views. I will reply not to convince the likes of you as it pointless, but for other members to enrich the debate. Hamas rightly told Gazans to stay because it's their own land and relocation means another 'Nakba' (Arabic term means disaster when they had to flee a war zone thinking it's a temporarily measure but were never allowed back by Israel) as happened after the wars of 1948 and 1976 Palestinians prefer to stay in their own land and die for it, but most Israelis have a 'Spare' second nationality so they can 'leg it' when things get serious.
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it's impossible to evacuate 1.1 millions in 24 hours with destroyed roads and no transportations. This is a policy of ethnic cleansing. Yesterday 70 civilians were bombed and killed while following the given so-called evacuation route.
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I say to that get the hell out of Palestine and let them run their own affairs. No one want to exterminate Jews , enough of this milked out propaganda. If Israel stops occupation and injustices and invading their neighbors then there is no threat to you at all. Actually, Israel is the only country on earth without defined borders. Israel is the last occupation on earth. It should and no doubt would end sooner or later albeit hundreds of thousands more lives on both sides will be lost along the way.
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Israel, as you very well know, had been besieging Gaza from all sides including sea ever since their theatrical withdrawal controlling everything and dictating what goes in and out and who can get in or out with the almost daily humiliations at 'Erez' check point, assassinations, bombings or ground invasion. The long inhumane economic blockade led to Gaza being one of the poorest spots on earth. The recent events should be viewed in this context where a mixture of desperation, anger and poverty created by Israel's long blockade led to the explosion.
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Text book 'Divide and conquer' policy. Gaza, West bank and East Jerusalem are all one people (And one occupied land according to international law).
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As all nations under occupations before them, they have been resisting Israel's occupation with all they can, while at the same time, working hard to produce a highly educated generation excelling in all fields and ready to build their new state. They also expressed great patience and tolerance trying for 30 years to negotiate peace with successive Israeli governments to no avail.
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Hamas is a tiny group and is not the entire Palestinian people. The entire Palestinian people aspire to see an independent state and an end to the ongoing brutal inhumane Israeli occupation.
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It appears that any nation, organization, or entity that opposes Israel is often swiftly labeled as terrorist groups. In this forum too, anyone criticizing Israel’s inhumane actions in Gaza is swiftly accused of being Jews hater, anti-Semite and the rest of ready labels. The founding of Israel itself involved various Jewish organizations, including Haganah, Lohamey Heruth Israel (Stern Gang), and Irgun Zvai Leumi, which was led by Menachem Begin, later becoming the Prime Minister of Israel. These organizations were associated with tragic events such as the Deir Yassin and Kufur Qasim massacres. Additionally, they were responsible for the assassination of Folke Bernadotte, a Swedish diplomat who was unanimously appointed as the United Nations Security Council mediator during the 1947-1948 Arab-Israeli conflict. Bernadotte was assassinated in Jerusalem in 1948 by the paramilitary Zionist group Lehi while carrying out his official duties. To this day, Israel has continued to employ terrorist measures including extrajudicial assassination, confiscation of land, collective punishment and bombings. Just yesterday, they issued a notice for 1.1 million people in Gaza to relocate within 24 hours or risk facing airstrikes. They might just as well march 1.1 civilians into a new concentration camp complete with gas champers. A group of Hamas fighters, numbering in the hundreds, managed to humiliate the Israeli army, its intelligence agencies and brought the entire country on its knees. In retaliation, they have been targeting civilians in a pure act of vengeance and to restore their shattered image and to justify getting billions in military aid from USA. While Israel, with the support of the United States and other major powers, may potentially eliminate Hamas, the question remains: will they ever succeed in quashing the aspirations of millions of Palestinians for their own state and ending the ongoing Israeli occupation?
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The white house itself has just backtracked and said that Biden actually never saw such pictures himself. No 40 babies were beheaded. It's another Israeli lie to justify their cruel savage bombings of innocent civilians in Gaza. If this story was true, the right-wing extremist Israeli government would not have hesitated to show or leak such pictures to the media. Did you ever see such pictures? OfCourse not because they do not exist, but I am sure you as the rest of the world have seen hundreds of actual Palestinian babies mutilated by Israel's criminal intentional bombardment of civilians.
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You are an animal yourself. Disgusting comment. Wishing for women and children to be killed is beyond criminal. How can such an animal be allowed to post such a nasty sadistic inhumane comment by the moderator?
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Better question to ask instead of getting carried away in historical disputed events and arguments events is What prevents Israel now from ending it's occupation and accepting an independent Palestinian state? Such a simple solution to a very complex issue. If this is to be achieved under the patronage of USA/RUSSIA/UN/EU then Israel can enjoy peace and security and the Palestinian can enjoy their freedom and engage in building their state. Do you think the Palestinians wants to engage in eternal fighting just for the sake of it? No, they are humans (not animals) who wants to live in peace and enjoy life. Surely, there would be extremists on both sides who will always demand their historical biblical land but those are a minority and would eventually fade away.
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Really? The Palestinians must be so happy and content with the Israeli inhumane occupation and thus fiercely resisting to have their own independent state. Such lies and misinformation is breathtaking. Israel is working hard day and night to deny Palestinian this very basic right and has renegaded on their signed Oslo peace agreement which was meant to lead to two states solution. Right wing current government of Israel fiercely resist any attempt to establish a Palestinian state and hence their drive to build more settlements on occupied lands and why there are 77 Israeli check points inside the West Bank decapitating Palestinian cities and towns. This explanation is not aimed for you because it's obvious you know the truth but blinded by your Zionist ideology. This is for the benefit of other minded people seeking the truth.
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Who are you trying to fool? While Israel withdrew from Gaza, they maintained a stringent blockade, tightly controlling entry and exit, regulating the flow of goods, conducting drone strikes on suspected Palestinians riding their cars or motorcycles (Extra judicial killing), patrolling the coastal areas and airspace. Israel killed many fishermen who strayed few meters while making a living at sea. Israel imposed severe limitations on the import of construction materials, hindering Gaza's reconstruction efforts after the damage inflicted. Likewise, Israel kept strict control of the electricity and fuel supply and used it to drive Gaza into unprecedented poverty and despair. Additionally, they exerted pressure on Egypt to enforce similar travel restrictions, preventing Gazans from freely crossing the Rafah border. Since 2007, Israel has conducted multiple military operations, resulting in the destruction of infrastructure and the tragic loss of thousands of innocent lives. Israel insured that Gaza would remain one of the Thus, it is important to avoid portraying Israel as a peaceful nation that peacefully departed from Gaza without ever intervening in local affairs. This narrative does not align with the facts, and it's imperative to acknowledge the reality of the situation.
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The current continuous inhumane bombardment of Gaza, which includes the destruction of hospitals, the targeting of ambulances, and the disruption of water and power supplies, constitutes a grave violation of human rights and international law and nothing short of a crime against humanity. Israel's actions are not solely in response to the loss of soldiers and civilians but are also seen as retaliation for the humiliating Hamas attack which destroyed the myth about the invincible army and exposed vulnerabilities within the Israeli military. Images of IDF officers being dragged from their tank then taken prisoners and marched on to Gaza are immortal. Historical instances, such as the United States' withdrawal from Vietnam, Lebanon, and more recently, Afghanistan, along with the Soviet Union's retreat from Afghanistan, highlight the challenges of long-term occupations. It raises the question of whether Israel can feasibly reoccupy Gaza. Even if such an endeavor were to occur (which is uncertain), it is likely that Israel would eventually be compelled to withdraw, potentially leaving Hamas in even a stronger position (The Taliban victory is fresh example). At the heart of this ongoing conflict lies the issue of the illegal occupation of the Palestinian homeland. Addressing this root cause is essential to resolving the longstanding issues that have persisted for seven decades.
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Every single Palestinian in Gaza or the West Bank experiences at least one of the following: Daily humiliation at Israeli military checkpoints, economic blockade, confiscation of land, harassment by armed settlers, desecration of their Aqsa Mosque, restrictions on having their own air or sea ports, collective punishment such as demolishing family homes if anyone is involved in any act of resistance, targeting journalists and aid workers, and a shoot-to-kill policy against kids throwing stones at tanks. Let's not forget over 5,000 prisoners, including women and children. All Palestinians are also under occupation. 30 years since the Oslo peace agreement, Israel has not relinquished the occupied Palestinian land or recognized an independent Palestinian state. Instead, they are adding more illegal settlements or expanding the existing ones. To achieve peace, it is essential to end the occupation and treat Palestinians with respect.
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If and when Israel stops killing Palestinian innocent kids, then Hamas won't be using their pictures. Your cruel remarks and indifference towards targeting children is disturbing.
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Stick Your Mister Where The Sun Don't Shine
Danny Australia replied to Neeranam's topic in ASEAN NOW Community Pub
You must be a very lucky man if all that bothers you in life is just this trivial issue.- 303 replies
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