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3 minutes ago, robblok said:

Yes it is.. it says she was walking away.. only started running after a big foreigner started to shout and run after her. A not so strange thing to do. 

 

Also this report is unconfirmed and the poster has not visited the topic after this. Who says it was not a guy like you who made up a story to defend the foreigner. How can you be so sure this is the truth. 

  I believe he is genuine .

1 minute ago, polpott said:

Not in the OP. Only claimed by a complete moron and wanting to play down his offence to an acquaintance

  You could yourself in trouble for speaking like that .

Give me 30 000 Baht or I will report your post .

(BTW , this is not a serious attempt at extortion, just making a point ) 

On 12/31/2020 at 10:30 AM, cvs04 said:

This guy is a customer of mine and has been for 5 years. I've always found him to be placid and a very nice guy. I spoke with him yesterday.

 

Whilst I don't condone the way he handled the situation it would appear there is far more to this story than meets the eye.

 

He had just finished his shopping in Big C and was with his daughter who is about 12. They went for a kfc and put the trolley to one side whilst they queued and ordered food.

 

Distracted whilst ordering food he turned round to see the woman walking away with his trolley which had 6000 baht, already paid for, worth of goods he'd just bought plus his car keys etc etc. As far as he was aware it was the only trolley there so not sure how she made a mistake and thought it was hers.

 

He shouted her to stop and she started to run with the trolley. He gave chase and booted her up the backside to stop her. Maybe she turned and he caught her hip instead or maybe the bruise was from something else unrelated.

 

The tourist policeman is somewhat notorious amongst the farang community here shall we say.

 

I believe neither he or his daughter were given any opportunity to speak during the Police interview. He was told if he tried to challenge the plaintiff in court he would get 3 years in jail unless he paid her off. The cctv footage apparentely looked to be cut and didn't show the event as it unfolded.

 

If he had been a Thai man in this situation I suspect it would be the girl being charged. However it's a farang and whenever that happens there's a big story, the farang loses some money and then defamed in the media. Remember it's always the farangs fault unless there is a nearby Burmese they can pin it on instead.

 

 

   ^^^^^^^ Worth a repost

1 minute ago, polpott said:

And who said he would get 3 years jail? The offender via hearsay, obviously to justify, after the event, having to pay 30k baht compensation.

  The Police stated that in the police station .

2 minutes ago, BigStar said:

LOL. All the way to the checkout? When if she wanted the goods in particular (unlikely), she could have just picked them off the shelf herself. This gets even funnier. Why the desperation to defend "one o' our lads?"

 

 

  She was running in the car park towards her car with goods that had already been paid for .

3 minutes ago, robblok said:

The money is compensation for the kicking. Its not extortion its a settlement. If he did not like the amount go to court.

 

She ran after a big foreigner came chasing after her shouting (how good was her english). If some big Thai runs at me shouting in Thai i might run too. 

 

She was in eyesight of the guy so it was not that much of a chase and obviously he caught up with her and at that point just grabbing the trolley was enough (look at his size and her size). Kicking was over the top as you also agree. That is what he paid for. Not extortion just paying for his over the top reaction. IF he did not like it then he could go to court. 

  Yes, go to Court and get three years jail and also go to jail on remand waiting to the case to come to Court and then potentially get deported or pay 30 000 Baht . 

  Thats extortion , that isnt justice 

7 minutes ago, BigStar said:

Now you've of course moved the goalpost, typical. Originally it was after being charged, which I responded to. Now it's before being charged. As for your main point, avoiding a court case, yes. The prosecutors in Western countries can drop charges at request of the victim even without any large amount of money being paid, and they do. They may also not bring charges if they feel they are unwarranted.

 

As so often, some supposed exclusively "Thai" practice is to be found in Western countries as well, but our posters have just never been able to notice it there. Why's that?

 

 

  No, he was never charged with the offence .

Once charges have been laid , they cannot be removed/uncharged .

10 minutes ago, robblok said:

The poster is supposedly a friend. How did you verify that he was really a friend you take everything he says for true while disregarding the article. He said 6000 bt groceries. The trolley does not look like it holds that much only a few bags. Also it talks about a daughter while on CCTV and in the article no daughter is mentioned (its possible of course). But you seem to give a lot of credence to a poster who after this has no longer posted in the topic.

 

Also you can settle things out of court in other places if you dont want to press charges for assault they are not pressed if injuries are not huge. So its possible in other countries too. The guy just did not want to go to court and risk it. Because what he did was wrong.

   She took his trolley which had his belongings in it , whether it was a genuine mistake or deliberate theft is unknown .

  She then ran off with the trolley after being asked to stop , maybe she was running to get away with the theft or she was running because she thought a felang was chasing her , who knows ?

   Looks like the felang kicked/pushed her to get her to stop , from the photo the marks look like it was from a collision with a trolley , rather than from the actual kick .

  She and the police colluded to get a payout , Pay the money or go to jail .

That is extortion .

   Yes, I dont think that he should have touched her , but I also think she shouldnt have used that to extort him .

Kicking someone - Wrong

Extortion - Wrong

A freind posts a photo and says shes in her home town , recipient thinks shes in Pattaya ?

11 minutes ago, RocketDog said:

Nonetheless, your description of behavior was humorous. 

  Yes, but rather hypocritical .

*Those D******s cannot have intelligent conversations without name calling*

5 minutes ago, BigStar said:

Settlement out of court is common in Western countries as well. Next.

  If you attack someone, can you pay them a large amount of money to avoid being charged and avoiding a Court case ?

3 minutes ago, J Town said:

Again, I was discussing behavior. Name calling gets you a vacation. Describing behavior is the adult way to debate.

  Did you deliberately spell out dildos , or was it just a coincidence the first letter of the five words spelt it out ?

2 hours ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

No he was not; this is simply what another poster has claimed he said, yet you are taking it as factual.

   This is a poster who is his freind and has spoken to him .

It is also a common situation in Thai Justice .

Get charged with an offence by the Police , get offered the opportunity to pay money to stop the case going to Court 

13 minutes ago, luckyluke said:

 

Sorry, It is obvious I expressed myself wrongly.

 

I was referring to the fact that

 

"food shortages , fields going unharvested , starvation , no drugs coming in from the E.U and the health system will collapse , millions of non British people being forced to leave the UK "

 

was to be considered on the same level than 

 

" dead in a ditch "

   I did understand you , but you are wrong .

I have previously stated why you are wrong, you didn't understand last time , so, no point in saying it again

1 minute ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

What are you talking about ?

 

I don't want you to scroll back and refresh any posts, I am simply asking for some clarification.

 

I have read the report that we are all commenting on, and can't find any mention of him being threatened with three years imprisonment. 

 

Please show me where in the report it is mentioned. I honestly cannot find it. Maybe you could be helpful rather than simply being dismissive 

 

Thanks 

  Please read my post on the previous page , where I replied to Sunday space, where I answered that question 58 minutes ago 

9 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

I have read the report, and followed the link to a secondary report, and could not find any mention of him being threatened with three years imprisonment if he refused to pay.

 

Who threatened him with this, and where did you get this alleged information from please ?  

 

Thanks 

  Another one who wont read the whole thread and expects me to scroll back and refresh posts .

Do it yourself 

 On 12/31/2020 at 10:30 AM, cvs04 said

8 minutes ago, Sujo said:

But u dont accept figure of speech from the other side.

  Those predictions of what would happen to the UK if we left the E.U were not figures of speech , they were genuine predictions

1 minute ago, luckyluke said:

Well for the pleasure of arguing, I would say that there are plausible situations,

and totally impossible ones, accepted as such by everyone.

  Did you honestly expect that Boris would kill himself in a ditch ?

If anyone took it seriously as a suicide intention statement ,They would have helped him and taken him to the Doctors and try to convince him not to commit suicide.

No one took it seriously at all .............apart from you 

Just now, welovesundaysatspace said:

Guess why... 

  Easier and didnt want to spend time in jail on remand and pay lawyers fees .

Easier just to pay up and get it over and done with

Just now, Mavideol said:

even his own family betrayed him, 1st his younger brother and now his own father  555

  How is that a "betrayal" ?

Boris Johnsons Dad is already French (as his Mother was French) and he has business interests/connections there and he was just making it easier for himself to go to France

4 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

really??? how's that, care to explain

  You claimed that the Brexit vote was misleading/fake , (it was nothing of the sort) and you are against Brexit.

You believe the 57 % Irish poll , and I assume you are in favour of Irish unification 

2 minutes ago, david555 said:

And that would be no more a nice trust giving red one .... but such  dark blue one from the new politic order .....

  Think you can get them from Trendy house in BKK

9 minutes ago, luckyluke said:

 No doubt some will share your opinion, and some not, and there is no way this can be cleared with data.

Thus to each in particular to believe what suits him best.

   

  It was quite clearly a figure of speech , it definitely wasn't a promise or a statement of intent .

*I would rather live on the moon , rather than living in France* is another figure of speech , but in reality, I would go and live in France .

3 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

at least it's more then the Brexiters had for their fake/misleading vote

  Yes, you believe polls/voting when you agree with them , but dont believe polls/votes when you disagree with them .

2 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

I can’t find what you quoted in the article. In addition, everyone should know that it’s a court that rules jail. If he really believed he wasn’t at fault, why didn’t he call his lawyer? 

  His personal friend posted in this thread and gave the info .

Rather than getting lawyers involved and going through a Court case , and potentially spending time in jail on remand awaiting the Court case , he decided to pay up and get it over and done with