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24 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Nothing of a threat or force was indicated except in your mind.

The tuk tuk driver was telling him to give him money. 

It's not his place to do that. He was trying to force money out of him.

24 minutes ago, stevenl said:

And no, there will be no insurance to pay for something ppl like this, the guilty party has to pony up.

In that case, there's a due process to follow to get the guilty party to pay up for damage (if there even was any)

And maybe the insurance wouldn't pay up because of some fault of the tuk tuk driver, such as no road tax or expired license, in which case nobody is "ponying up", lol

I try not to indulge in retched excess, but at a buffet I let my morals slide and go Thai style: ignore the rice as it's low value and eat all the prawns and pork I can.

32 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Of course, he drove into him. But that was not your claim, you claimed the tuktuk driver was extorting him.

I am not sure what you are getting at, but I think we may have different understandings of the definition of 'extortion':

ex·tor·tion

/ikˈstôrSH(ə)n,ekˈstôrSH(ə)n/

noun

the practice of obtaining something, especially money, through force or threats.

He was trying to force the farang to pay whatever sum he wanted as compensation for the accident.

58 minutes ago, JustAnotherHun said:

Everybody would ask for compensation after an accident, no? The Brit crashed into a standing TukTuk.

That's not how it works.

The insurance pays for any damage and the guilty party pays the fine (or goes to jail) for the traffic violation (or criminal offence), depending on the case.

If there's any injury, then compensation may be appropriate to cover medical expenses or death, if the insurance doesn't.

We didn't build civilization just to tear it down again, did we?

3 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Bike rider's fault, he was illegally riding.

That's not how it works, mate.

I know from experience.

2 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

How do you know that?

Same way everyone knows it: the article says he demanded money from the guy, lol

6 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

How do you justify that unreasonable assumption?

I am sure the motorcycle dude is an experienced professional in the motor vehicle damage calculation industry. 

Better take his word for it.

13 minutes ago, Goat said:

Right. So now you are accusing the Thais of making it all up.

You're right. They couldn't possibly ask for compensation without actual damage.

That would defy the laws of physics.

????

35 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Erm....     its very unlikely either of these machines had any insurance at all... 

 

But agree...  given the reputation of TukTuk drivers in Phuket its a fair guess that the TukTuk driver saw an opportunity...  

I assume it was a rental motorcycle the farang was riding. It should really be insured.

But the insurance probably wouldn't pay out under certain circumstances, for example, if the Thai guy didn't have an up-to-date tax sticker.

35 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Where is the damage ? no photos in the story ????

 

 

Exactly. If there was damage, I bet it would be shown in media. Probably no damage.

I once had a Thai guy try to get compensation from me cos I touched his bumper in a parking spot. He was parked over the line (which I didn't notice when I reversed in).

There was no damage. He got nothing from me

Usually done through school. 

Not sure about brand

On 5/11/2023 at 2:01 PM, Neeranam said:

I imagine there was little damage and the taxi driver was trying to make the most of it by asking an extortionate amount. 

A friend of mine was hit by a tuk tuk thing and they demanded he pay them 6,000 Bht fir a scratch to the tuk tuk. 

Good on the guy for showing tourists are no walkover. Most of the foreigners here would just pay up. 

 

Exactly, when you have an accident the insurance fixes it, you don't have to turn all Don Corleone.

The Thai guy was extorting him.

On 5/11/2023 at 2:05 PM, Myran said:

Too bad the mob didn't get a hold of him. Some street justice would have served him right.

Yeah, feed him to the savages.

That's the kind of world we should have.

On 5/11/2023 at 10:05 AM, BritManToo said:

biological son is great, 1 daughter wasn't mine also great.

Don't think DNA matters that much.

If I had to choose just one out of the seven it'd probably be the daughter that wasn't mine.

But you said your biological son is great, why would you not choose him?

I wonder if someone killed the vigilante to protect Jordan would they face any charges? ????

I saw news recently where a black woman shot a white man in the head killing him because he had her boyfriend in a headlock.

No charges as she was defending her boyfriend.

Though her boyfriend was charged cos he owned the gun she used and there was something illegal about the size of the clip or something. 

It was all caught on film.

6 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

I am concerned the democrat's attempts to fool he public into thinking this guy was lynched by a racist because he was impersonating MJ very misleading. Way more than misleading in fact. Ms Pressley should have shown footage of the thug threatening the public, seems they just can't help being inflammatory.

 

 

Yes, that's the agenda these days.

And black on white violence gets next to no coverage now in mainstream media.

They even cropped out the black man helping the white vigilante in some newspapers so they could say there was a racial element.

There was a black man holding Jordan's hands to restrain him while he was being choked. They cropped that out.

And the vigilante put him him the recovery position afterwards and tried to wake him up once he had been subdued. That part didn't get a mention in many newspapers either.

4 minutes ago, placeholder said:

I bet you do.

Funny, how you left out the rest of my post where I go on say that the reason for that is we belong to the same ethnicity

You know whites from England, America, and Australia (and so on) share the same ethnicity.

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

He expects a higher standard of conduct from white people than he expects of at least one other race.

He didn't say that. You inferred that 

2 hours ago, placeholder said:

Nonsense. Most Finns, most Australians, most Americans, most Afrikaaners, most Italians, most Germans, etc. share a common culture based on their whiteness?

To be fair, when I meet white people (irrespective of where they come from), I feel we are on a very similar cultural page.

There's a reason for this - I'll bold it for you - we belong to the same ethnic group.

I am sure Thais have more in common with Filipinos, Burmese, Vietnamese, Chinese, and Indonesians than other ethnicities.

White people can't say anything these days without being accused of being racist.

Wonder why?

The media probably.

5 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

Yet imagine if a black man saw a group of blacks swarming and attacking someone, and he said, "hey, that's not how black men fight", would HE be racist too?  By expecting better behavior from his fellow African Americans? 

Of course, it wouldn't be considered racist, nor is it.

34 minutes ago, mommysboy said:

You answered with exaggerated examples, eg, you countered not with one teacher but two living together.

Exaggerated?

A two income family is not exaggerated; it's normal.

I said that in response to you talking about families struggling financially, so it makes perfect sense.

Thais generally marry in their own socioeconomic class, hence my example (e.g. a teacher marries another teacher, or nurse, or soldier, or police officer). All these occupations have similar starting salaries.

So, with the two of them working they have a decent household income and decent standard of living.

34 minutes ago, mommysboy said:

 

Life sucks! What then Communism?

 

Well clearly it will not be possible to go on like this.  I suspect no we will not change - so I'd guess famine, war, suffering on a large scale in all honesty. That's why to be honest I won't get lost in meaningless arguments.

 

But yes a bit of socialism. Why not? after all we've got socialism for the rich, haven't we- too big to fail and all that!?

There's little opportunity of financial freedom in socialism.

They make it hard for individuals to rise up.

It literally goes against their ideal.

3 hours ago, mommysboy said:

I doubt you ever did for very long.

Why?

3 hours ago, mommysboy said:

 

Most reasonable people support the notion that a bread winner working 6 days a week ought to be able to reasonably fend for his/her family. 

Nowadays, men generally can't afford 6 kids and a housewife. Sucks, I know.

With both husband and wife working around minimum wage they will have a household income of probably 20k a month.

With bachelor's degrees or a college course, they could increase that by 50% or maybe even double it.

3 hours ago, mommysboy said:

 

I think too that most Thai teachers are likely on a lousy wage in all honesty.  This is a really low wage economy without much of a welfare system.

If two Thai teachers are living together, they will have a household income of 30k-40k a month. Not too shabby, actually.

Same as a farang English teacher bringing home the bacon for his family (with his madame at home, not working).

I don't suppose he gets pity, but that's just life.

3 hours ago, mommysboy said:

 

Mate- it's not happening anymore- that western capitalist dream- it's just taking money from the poor to give to the rich, and there's not even so many rich people these days, race to the bottom.  It did appear to work, in  my family many decades ago, but you're well behind the times.

What then? Communism?

1 hour ago, VinnieK said:

..and a culture that encourages drug use 

Still less dangerous than a culture that encourages kids to operate motorcycles, imho.

So, if the minimum wage doubles, then they'll probably be earning more (if they work the standard 6 day week) than most Thai teachers, nurses, and other public servants.

Then what?

Why even become a teacher or a nurse, when you could just work at 7eleven and make more?

They'd have to double their salaries too, to make it worthwhile.

Then, the price of everything goes up cos businesses want to keep making a good profit, otherwise why do any business at all?

Then, we are back to square one with the illusion of a higher minimum wage.