jaywalker

Idiotic statement from the NRA "We need a good guy with a gun to kill the bad guy with a gun"

Question to the NRA - Where was the good guy on this occasion? Seems unfortunately the good guy and bad guy are not on the same page.

When will the yanks ever learn with their "Rights to defend ourselves" from your own people? when will these senseless killings end when will you ever end this "Gun Culture"?

Yes, only "Police" should be allowed to carry guns.

I knew this guy briefly in 1989. http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2003-02-07/news/0302070342_1_apopka-police-coffey-orange-county

and, http://www.dc.state.fl.us/activeinmates/detail.asp?Bookmark=1&From=list&SessionID=486275763

or how about this one?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Adam_Lloyd_and_Vanessa_Arscott

AND, the shooter here is reportedly a convicted felon = not allowed to have a firearm.

See http://www.wesh.com/news/bell-florida-shooting/28141698

The last paragraph says this Florida shooter is a convicted felon = ALREADY REGULATED.... Fat lot of good that did.

Also see http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=0700-0799/0790/Sections/0790.23.html

Another mass shooting in the U.S tell the poor innocent children murder that the U.S doesn't need gun control. How many more innocent children have to die before the U.S grows up and implements strict gun control.

We need knife control! http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/761488-bangkok-teen-boy-stabbed-to-death-for-not-helping-out-in-kitchen/?utm_source=newsletter-20140919-0738&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=news

We need hoe control!! http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/761604-koh-tao-killers-will-be-caught/?utm_source=newsletter-20140919-0738&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=news

We need bath tub control!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrea_Yates

According to this article....http://thoughtcatalog.com/jim-goad/2014/04/20-moms-who-killed-their-kids/

We need:

1 - rope control

2 - microwave control

3 - plastic bag control

4 - gun control

5 - more rope control

6 - bare hands control

7 - more knife control

8 - guns again

9 - more knife control

10 - toy airplane control

11 - more knife control

12 - more bar hands control

13 - gun control

14 - gasoline & matches control

15 - more knife control

18 - car control

19 - pillow/plastic bag/bare hands control

20 - bath tub control (referenced above already)

85% of those last 20 did NOT involve a gun, but when a gun IS used, AAAHHHHH! We have to ban guns!!!!!

Why do you want to ban them?

I was being sarcastic

Does every Thai male over the age of 6 have a gun?

Yeah, its alot like Texas that way.

Lots of pickup trucks and lots of guns.

Something about attempting to compensate for a short something or other.

C'mon.....people kill people.

If they have a murderous mindset, folks can kill someone with a hoe. They can be tossed off balconies, drugged, stabbed, hacked, bludgeoned, drowned, poisoned, suffocated, run over, hanged, electrocuted etc, etc.

But NOOOOOO! It's always the fault of guns when gun violence happens.

While everyone talks about gun violence, violence itself is the problem.

People have been killing each other since Cain and Abel and they will continue to do so. Really bad guys who are willing to kill have no problem getting guns.

A law abiding person that wants to keep a gun for varmints or target practice or hunting, will have to fill out paperwork and register the weapon both in Texas and Thailand.

I'm in Georgia right now, (lived in Thailand for 7+ years) and I could get an illegal, unregistered firearm in...maybe 2-12 hours if I wanted one. Same in Thailand.

I'm not a murderous, violent person though. Gun control is a COMPLETE JOKE.

Outlaw guns & then only outlaws will have them.

I respect firearms. I also realize that a hoe, or a kitchen chair for that matter can kill people......So I don't do it.

Violent PEOPLE kill people.

I have a .38 revolver, 2 each .22 rifles, a 30-30 rifle and a 12 gauge shotgun, along with 2 machetes & a ridiculous Samurai/Ninja sword that my younger brother gave me (otherwise I wouldn't own it).

It has never occurred to me to turn any of these against another person unless they broke into my house though.

Thai workers don't generally leave hoes laying about. At the end of the work day the hoe goes home with the worker. I am guessing the hoe was bought to the beach with intent to do harm.

Agree, workers are particularly careful with keeping all their work tools safe, it can mean the difference between working and not.

I've worked with Thai's in BKK on projects for the Army & Air Force, which involved a plethora of tools used to work on wheeled vehicles.

The ones I worked with were HORRIBLE about taking care of their tools. They would lose tools every single day!

To my fellow posters, I have to give you credit for your imiganative skills!!

Have anyone even considered the possibility of a fishingcrew ashore for a good time??

Swim in, swim out!!

Yeah I was once on Ko Phang An & took one of those HORRIBLE long tail boat rides around the vicinity. Never Again! A slave galley would have probably made for a nicer ride!

Anyhow, we saw some REALLY Spooky looking cave-dwellers living in the nearby limestone cliffs. I say spooky, as they were basically cavemen.

Lot's of speculation on my part, but really, the swim in, swim out theory doesn't seem to have crossed authorities' minds.

Never come between a man and woman.

Why were there five cartridges left at the scene? Five rounds of .38 indicates a revolver which doesn't eject spent cartridges. Unless they were .38 Super which is a rare semi-auto round usually used for competitive shooting.

Mind your own biz and live.

Perhaps it was the "back peddle" version which comes with a thrumbone influctor behind the flux capacitor to enable more usable grunt bugglies

Yes, I'm familiar with that model from my time in the SAS, just before I left to become Jennifer Lopez's personal bodyguard.

I wish I had 10 baht for all the "former SAS, Pioneers. Pathfinders, Green Berets, Force Recon & Delta Force" clowns I've met in Thailand.

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Back on topic, I thought the same thing....Aren't all .38's revolvers?

I was wrong though see http://www.impactguns.com/handguns.aspx?Caliber=38+Super+Automatic

Why do they not involve the UK police to help them. They should send a sample of the hair to UK they will test it to see if it was Asian or European.

Am sure UK have more sophisticated means of checking a lot, CTV footage they could enhance a lot.

Probably a good idea, but HEAVEN FORBID!!! The BIB would lose face then. Can't have THAT now can we?

Oh yeah, the British police will help you a lot. Let's not be hypocrites and have a go at Thais. They are as bad as anyone else.

Police Treated British Rape Victims Like ‘Stupid, Naughty’ Girls

A sex abuse investigation in Britain raises difficult questions of race and child protection.

By Corinne Purtill | August 29, 2014

http://www.mintpressnews.com/police-treated-british-rape-victims-like-stupid-naughty-girls/196050/

I agree, not all Western cops are perfect, I was just thinking that British police probably have more modern equipment.

I've worked with the Army, Marines & Air Force in Thailand, and with the exception of the Marines, NONE their equipment is EVER maintained, so I can just imagine all the dusty, 20 year old equipment laying around an RTP station.

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A bit off topic, but as for stupid, criminal cops, I was room mates with this guy back in 1989 or so. I was shocked when I heard about this.

http://www.dc.state.fl.us/ActiveInmates/detail.asp?Bookmark=1&From=list&SessionID=272210276

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2003-02-07/news/0302070342_1_apopka-police-coffey-orange-county

"The fact is considering the circumstances, the comments were in bad taste and insensitive and has nothing to do with with "crap western idea's" and this is borne out by the fact the General has come out and apologized for the remarks he made.

but seeing as we are talking about thinking its fine to to "parade" around can you please tell me when Thai ladies stopped walking around Thailand topless in their normal daily life ?.....the 1940's ? and why did the move to become more conservative actually happen in Thailand, it was a push by the rulers at the time to force the Thai nation to become more "western" so in fact the Thai cultural norms you are talking about were a Thai construct around "western norms"

one assumes you believe your a great white saviour to Thailand's morals, so may I humbly suggest you get on your white horse, bible in hand and put the rosey tinted shades on and ride off into the Sunset dear boy, because your talking absolute rubbish."

I agree, however in 1940, Western swimwear was rather conservative. I think that Thai's are still living in 1940.

This is turning into the usual Thai circus. They claim to have mixed semen samples and from there they could determine DNA and subsequently ethnicity of the culprit, yet, no mention of this or forensics on the suspected weapon (Hoe), blood type,fingerprints, DNA and still they beat about the big bush with only one eye open.

I understand that a forensic team from the UK is en route and the sooner the better before this get truly out of hand .

That was my original thought (to bring in a UK forensics team) the day I heard about this tragedy. Just wish they'd gotten to LOS sooner.....

I hope it's true and doesn't turn out to be a rumor.

Why do they not involve the UK police to help them. They should send a sample of the hair to UK they will test it to see if it was Asian or European.

Am sure UK have more sophisticated means of checking a lot, CTV footage they could enhance a lot.

Probably a good idea, but HEAVEN FORBID!!! The BIB would lose face then. Can't have THAT now can we?

Does every Thai male over the age of 6 have a gun?

It sure seems like it! Either a gun or at least a machete.

Or a hoe.

For good sake, he's 93 years old, stop talking about all this ww2. Hunting old people. He's properly already on the way to the die.

Following that logic, if someone were to murder a 93 year old person, they shouldn't face charges, as the "Old Codger was on his way out anyhow"

"Bonded Warehouse"?????

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't there a bond posted by the warehouse owner that is posted as surety that this won't happen? If it does happen they forfeit the bond?

Maybe I misunderstood that term?

A .38 caliber is .38 hundredths of an inch. not .38 millimeters. It's pretty close to 9.5 mm.

.38 mm is like, say, the diameter of a needle at 0.0149606 inches.

My most favorite picture of my 9 year old daughter is when she was 3 months old.

Vigilante justice here is fully authorized in my opinion.

If I KNEW who it was, I'd stick a .44 Magnum between his eyes and pull the trigger if he'd hurt my daughter. Consequences be damned.

Black Pearl/White Oyster Bar in Pattaya with my buddy Bob.

Toss 200 baht of 10 baht coins in the pool & the gals strip naked to go dive for them.......You are welcome to join them as long as you're naked as well. I partook of the festivities.

Trying to leave, I fell down, in the gravel parking lot......Full-on face plant into the gravel rocks. I gave myself a black eye and skint up my face right nicely.

Bob and 3 girls spilled me into my truck. Bob couldn't drive...I couldn't drive.

Bob got 2 moto-dop's to take us home to Soi Khaotalo........1 to drive the truck & one to haul the driver back on his moto. They were cool guys.

Bob was my neighbor & you just GOTTA LOVE above ground Thai-style plumbing.

Parked my truck in front of Bob's place & I got tangled up in the pipes....I cut off his main water supply and was wallering around in the street.

Bob (bless his heart) came and picked me up and marched me to my front porch. My wife was NOT happy.

"What happened to your face!!!???"

I said "Bob hit me"

She hates Bob. Bob is great guy.

HAHAHA

This has to be the best thread/topic ever.

Yeah my wife had a kid before I met her. Poor baby was 3 years old, living w/ Grandma & Grandpa in Isaan.

First time she saw me she cried, and cried, and cried, and cried.....Poor baby. She'd never seen a Caucasian! Poor baby thought I was sure enough a BOOGEY Man!

I married her mother & legally adopted her a couple years later. She calls me Daddy now. She's a sweet kid.

She's 17 now.........uuuhhh? Momma YOU are in charge of this....I just pay the rent.

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Humorous - Actually NOT story, some 19 year old punk tried to get after her when she was about 13. She was supposed to baby-sit her 4 year old sister that night. Here's the humor. She got home an hour late, and all 4' 11" (1.5 meters) anf 99 lbs. (45 kg) wifey took a wooden flute to her......Didn't hurt her, but scared her to death.

The kid was and still is a couple inches taller than Mommy, but she's been a model citizen ever since the "Flute" incident.

I just sat on the front porch with the little one & kept my mouth shut.

Walking down Ramkamhaeng Road one hot Sunday from my apartment to Villa Supermarket. Much quicker to walk than drive. Stopped for 2 minutes in the shade at a bus stop (it was HOT!).

A nice lady sitting a few seats away, and here comes a cement truck doing about 120 kph, with the front bumper torn half off, rubbing the front left tire, smoke billowing everywhere...........

I speak basic Thai & asked her what that was? She shrugged her shoulders and replied, in perfect English, This is Thailand.

Sounds scary what most have posted with regards to repairs at the shop, on the other items being destroyed instead of just the bodywork. So what do you guys think could have happened? Since your car is in their area for a long time, they took it for a rough drive? Have you checked the odometers? etc.?

That's one of the reasons I like to maintain my own cars, we could never really see what those "trusty" mechanics done to our cars. Making it worse or better? You be the judge.

Took my Toyota truck to Car Buddy near the Ocean Marina once to get the oil & filter changed.

Next day I had an oil puddle in my driveway......They had, ummm..forgotten to actually tighten the oil plug.

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Working as a contractor last year on some Air Farce trucks. I had SHOWED THEM 10 times how to torque the head bolts........They ignored me........Fair enough, but they had hired me to make sure they did it right. Luckily they had a new piston rod in stock......a week later they were where they should have been a week before.

It was supposed to be a 6 month contract......it turned into 10 months,

I was met with opposition every step of the way.......Why they hired me, to just say "We think it's better to do it this way" can only be attributed to the fact that I'm a factory trained rep Token Farang.

I showed the boss a PICTURE of an engine stand, straight out of the FACTORY tech manual...........He had not one, but 3 engine stands built that were absolutely nothing like what I needed.

Luckily there was a Thai guy around there that had lived in California for 27 years and he had one we could borrow......DUH!!!!! They FINALLY saw what was going on & copied the shit out of it.

They had a forklift with ZERO brakes on it.....Boss was renting space in a junk yard & forklift came with it. Had a pavilion roof that leaked & zero drainage = a 4 inch deep lake almost every day.

Little squat hole to go blow yer butt, IF you could get by the junkyard dog that guarded said hole...He'd try to eat you alive. I think the owner must've fed him gunpowder.

Two other cool dogs there.....They jumped on a 3 foot long monitor lizard right behind my desk once. I though that was cool.

I could/ probably should write a book, I could go on and on about stuff Westerners would never believe.

I will NEVER try to work with Thai's again though.

Don't get me wrong. Any of the guys I worked with would jump out and stop a bullet for me, they just do things the way they want to do things.

I'm 48, married to a Thai for 14 years, 9 year old daughter........I'll be doing marriage - retirement visas from now on.

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EDIT: I took that contract as I thought it would make me drink less...Errr...WOW!

I was wrong.

Anyone who believes they are avoiding living in a police state by living in Thailand are dreadfully ill informed....how much more of a police state can you get then getting arrested for reading in public, I mean isn't that the quinessential "Police State"???...not sure if those are the rules anymore, but anyone yapping about how much a police state the UK or US has become, just remember, no one ever has been arrested or prosecuted in either of these countries for freely speaking about government officials or reading books in public!

In many ways, European countries and America enjoy A WHOLE LOT greater freedom than Thailand, and I never really understand exactly what people are getting at when they claim encroachment of civil liberties by the government, after all we haved faced and continue to face a serious threat from Islamic fundamentalism and if listening to phone calls is going to play some effort in preventing another tragedy from happening, I say go for...it.

As I said, at least at the end of the day, I can walk down the street in London or Washington DC, saying whatever I feel like about Her Majesty or Mr Obama, without worrying about any sort of criminal consequences.....

And when you see an army general breaking broadcasts on friday to give an "update" to the country, I don't know how you can get anymore BIG BROTHER than that

Thing is.........They haven't yet created a SYSTEM for BIG BROTHER.

The cops in LOS are too busy bumping into each other, trying to find their shirts & hats to be able to systematize anything.

I've worked with the RTA, RTAF and RTMC (army, air farce, marines).......They hired me to "help" them with ground equipment.

I told them we need systems, processes etc... We need a Standard Operating Procedure (SOP).....They, up to the general officer level agreed with me.

Boots on the ground trying to implement it......HA!

They are, EVERY one of them just like my teenage nephew......I yammer away at him, and he tells me "I know, I know".

Won't listen to a word I say. The Thai's hired me & paid me for consulting services, and then ignore everything I say......Just like my 16 year old nephew.

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The RTMC in Sattahip is BAD-ASS though. Command Sgt Major K. Chai is as sharp as they get. His trucks regularly go to Pattani, & I love working with that guy and his troops.

Therefore, I'd have to say, it's a leadership issue, not really a "Thainess" issue, though I do love that term.

"Italian" restaurant in Pattaya once. I ordered pizza with bell peppers, pepperoni & onions. I came out with 1/3rd bell peppers, 1/3rd onions, & 1/3rd pepperoni......My pizza had sections.....<deleted>??????

As for the women/sex side of things, have a look at this http://bit.ly/1qwRJSw It's about Chile.

I'm thinking about a week down there before I head back across the Pacific.

Yeah, S. America, but Spanish is a damned sight easier to learn than Thai (I speak both somewhat decently). I'm no (extreme) monger, but I do enjoy my eye candy.

Hookerdom is legal in Chile as well and Latina chicas are just as exotic as Thai girls. I had a very nice time in Honduras a few decades ago with a gorgeous local gal that had some Asian eyes......I was HOOKED. I guess that's why they call them hookers?

Looks like it might be a decent alternative to LOS & round trip flights from Miami are about $1,000. I just checked Priceline.com & flights from NYC are about the same.

I guess my biggest gripes about Thailand are, well:

1 - The traffic - need I say more?

2 - Trying to work with Thai's - MADDENING!!!!!

3 - You'll ALWAYS be a Farang, or if you're a black American, an African-Farang, and will never blend in.

4 - Building houses so close together I could spit in my neighbor's window.

5 - Stray mongrel dogs everywhere you look, a few of which can be quite aggressive.

6 - Trying find something to eat that doesn't have 14,000 chile peppers in it.

I think Thailand is a FANTASTIC place to go for a vacation, or even a place to live as long as you fly out a lot for business, as I did 2001-2004......WAAAAAY nicer than Taiwan, Japan, S. Korea or the Middle East. Japan was kinda cool to visit though if you're there on an expense report that the company pays.

Kuala Lumpur is nice, just not my cup of tea for various reasons, not least of which is the prevalence of a certain nationality that only bathes every 6 months or so.

I've been to 45 countries, with Thailand, Mexico and Argentina being the nicest (for me).

I do want to check out Chile though!