jaywalker

Calling those whose lives don't revolve around cheap booze and cheap sex 'puritans' is like calling someone who doesn't gorge on bacon for every meal a vegetarian.

Dude........This is the PUB section, NOT the Stay Healthy section.

Lighten up, or go ride your bike to Beijing or something & make sure to eat lots of kale along the way.

If you are some spandex-wearing Mr. Fit that begrudges a guy because he like to get sauced.......Stay out of the pub.

I'm not a racist, so I don't attend KKK rallies.

I'm not a Satan worshiper, so I stay away from voodoo cults.

I don't like cuts on my hand, so I don't stick my hand in a fan.

I'm not gay, so I don't go to gay bars.

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I love going on a good bender as long as I have the $$$$ to pay for it & I'm happy along the way.

Oh yeah:

Alcoholics go to meetings.

Drunks go to bars.

I'm a proud drunk.

My oldest brother hasn't had a drink in 30 years. He goes to meetings once a week. He was always a prick when growing up with him. Guess what? He's every bit as much of a prick today, miserable shit is what he is.

I'd MUCH rather be around a happy person than a miserable bastard, sober or drunk.

I use Hostgator, & they're a wonderful company...BUT I much prefer to see BUTT.

Click on a "Rakuten" ad here & that's all you get. J-Girls with lots of skin showing up everywhere.

So now we have sunk so low that we have to pay the police for being honest.

No such thing Buddy! At least 98% of the ones I've come across are crooks from the get-go.

A Dutch guy on Soi Khaotalo (Pattaya), with a very pretty wife & daughter about the same age as my daughter ran a public swimming pool/bar/restaurant near Eakmongkol 4 a few years back.

My daughter LOVED their daughter & we went there a lot, as did many a farang & many a Thai. Those kids would swim and swim and swim. I'd get in there chest deep & toss any kid that wanted a ride as far as as I could toss them. It was great exercise.

Nice folks all around = he was doing a good, wholesome, family friendly business, open from about 10:00 AM to 6:00 PM.

The police started harassing him for tea money left & right & ran him out of business.

There's an Al Capone with a badge & a brown uniform every 10 feet in Thailand.

The way for them to stop corruption, is to have an anti-corruption investigative unit that does undercover stings on these cops taking the bribes. However, that would actually take some thought and organizing to do. As we have seen the Koh Tao murder investigation take many twists and turns, we all know that these guys could organize a piss up in a brewery with the taps wide open.

Here is an example for the police to start with and show everyone that they mean business-

Come on that is clearly a Cambodian or Burmese dressed up.

Where are all the folks that say they've been here 30 some-odd years and "Never had a problem"? Please reference the video above.

You either have never driven here, or you are lying, or you have diplomatic immunity.

An old friend of mine that passed on some years back had spent 40+ years in Thailand. He was a regular old Col. Kurtz.....actually was a retire US Army full Colonel & had a diplomatic ID card.

I was with him a few times when he got waved over. He never paid a single baht.

I was with him one day in his US Embassy car & a BIB tried to give him a parking ticket. The guy spoke great Thai. He just ripped it up in front of the cop & threw it on the ground & pointed at the Embassy tag on his car. It was great!

I think it's a very good idea. No one will risk paying a bribe anymore and will have to be fined in the correct manner. This will cut down or maybe even eradicate the practice of collecting bribes by many police officers.

So what happens when the policeman says, as they often do, ""you can pay 200 baht here or go to the police station and pay 800 baht'". Isn't that a bribe? You just can't win. If you feel that this is a good idea and will eradicate the practice of collecting bribes, then I pity you. Are a Thai policeman by any chance?

As mentioned already paying those who are asked for a bribe should receive the 10,000 Baht. Maybe that will eradicate bribing although I doubt it.

That happened to me once, as in "you pay my friend (the other cop) he take care for you".......I was dead wrong, as I was late for a meeting at the RTAF base near Don Muang & was doing 150 kph on the elevated tollway.

Of course the cop thought I was late for a flight, as I was in a rental car from Budget near the airport.

He wanted to clip me for 2,000 baht, which is probably what I deserved, if not more.

I kept telling him, in my best Thai & lots of English, "No Problem! I go pay at police station! No Problem!", all the while fiddling with a 500 baht note in my lap & smiling a lot.

He finally said, "OK, ha roy baht". He handed me my international license back & had me stick it inside & handed it back to me 500 baht lighter. I KNEW I was WRONG.

I TRIED to own up to it, but the BIB just wanted some Mekong money.

Somebody mentioned earlier about keeping his money in his sock instead of his wallet. GOOD IDEA!!!

These days I just sit in the back seat with my daughter & let her beat me at games of tic-tac-toe while I let my wife drive, as I have completely given up on trying to either work with Thai's or drive in Thailand.

Somebody should get them some loose fitting light colored khaki uniforms too. Those skin tight brown solar panel uniforms they wear are enough to put anybody in a foul mood in a tropical country.

I believe the old fart should have just paid the 40 baht. Talk about cheap Charlie. He should have never illegally parked or gotten out of his car. Not smart to challenge a younger man.

If it was your father or grandfather, would you be so stupid to say this.

It's not about the money its about extortion. People should stand up to people who do this, and as another poster wrote, "he would NEVER hit a 70 year old Thai man"!

I know I would never hit a 70 year old man. I did threaten to give a 70-ish year old man a heart attack once though when I was 19. I was going to yell him to death.

He was just a neighbor & I was renting from my brother & decided to install a circular driveway by doing doughnuts in my '72 Chevy pickup truck in the front yard.

I yelled at him a bit & told him to get off the property, but never dreamed of whacking him with anything, much less a chunk of wood. They'll throw you UNDER the jail for 5 years for whacking a senior citizen in the US.

The penalty (of which I was ignorant at the time) never entered my mind. I'd just never beat up on an old man.

I DID however take on my nephew a few weeks back. He just turned 18 yesterday 7 October & is 29.5 years my junior. I put that punk in the dirt.

Too bad the old man wasn't like this guy:

i have been stopped 10 times , always walked to payment station, paid fine and received a receipt, no complaints, just got on with my wonderfully cheap life here in thailand, i must live in a different part of thailand or not a bloody whinging pom

I got stopped for no seat belt in Pathum Thani once & they sent me straight over to a very professional officer, with a desk & a receipt book set up on the sidewalk.

That, my friend is RARE. Mostly it's "No ploblem, I take care for you song roy baht".

When they announced the B10,000 reward to cops who refuse bribes, I immediately though it part of a staged publcity stunt. The subsequent reward ceremony with the hand over of B10,000 to a cop who refused the paltry sum of B100 from a motorcyclist, only confirms it. So if a motorist only bribes a cop with B100, the cop can claim a B10,000 reward as compensation. I have visions of cops on B1,000,000/week by refusing their normal bribes and claiming compensation.

Ha! Yeah! = This will last all of about 4-5 days. Idiots.

What if they are the ones taking your money for no good reason? Do we get 10,000 Baht for catching them?

This place is more crazy than CUCKOOS NEST.

Yeah I used to drive Pattaya-Koh Chang a lot. Got pulled over at least once per trip, for driving in the wrong lane.....Shit happened in the middle of Rayong once! That was like getting pulled over on Pattaya Klang for not passing someone in the fast lane!

There's a piss-willy, over loaded truck/lorrie, or a motorbike with sausages hanging off it, or a baht bus, or a regular bus or 400 little shops set up 6 inches off the edge of the road, usually with a car stopped in front of them, pretty much EVERYWHERE you go in Thailand.

What flippin' lane do they EXPECT me to drive in if I want to do the speed limit?

I was once driving to Hua Hin & there was a particularly horrible stretch of pavement in the left lane, while the inside lane was smooth......There were cops waiting right at the end of the bad pavement section, pulling folks over left & right, grabbing 200 baht a whack (at least that's what they got from me).

This really is an arse-about face of attempting to improve the integrity of Traffic Cops! What should be happening is integrity testing all the time by the police's discipline unit, i.e. going out where there are traffic cops doing stops, making themselves available for a traffic violation and seeing if they can get out of the ticket by offering a bribe. If they get a bite then that cop gets the sack - it soon smartens up the rest! I do though appreciate the other suggestion that it should be the public getting the 10,000 Baht for shopping a bent cop.

Yeah, but, but, but.....That cop likely had to bribe his way onto the force farce to begin with.

They'd be cutting off their hand to spite their face if they started sacking too many Barney Fife's.

Fast FWD the video to 1:40 seconds.

Weird how the discussion is not that the guy was robbed by two fake police (or two real police scamming someone) but how much the daily limit is on an ATM...!

Who the h*ll cares?

If the money was extracted over one or several withdrawals, is completely irrelevant - it was taken and had to be given to these scumbags - if he had not, I wonder where the situation could have gone next? It could easily have escalated and he could have ended up dead.

It is also fairly unimportant at this point if they were fake or real - the point is that they need to be caught, after which it can be determined if they are real police or not, and appropriate action taken.

A crime was committed and you all seem to care more about the amount you can withdraw at the ATM... ????

Well said Greer. I'd like to add a theory as well. I only know a handful of people (Thai or Farang) that could probably cough up 100,000 baht at the drop of a hat.

Sounds to me like the guy was a target & I'm just guessing he "might" have been bragging to someone about how much cash he had........OR.......He was likely a real drug dealer & the "fake cops" were real cops just shaking him down.

I print out a picture of what I want from the internet and give it to the first salesperson that approaches me. Then I follow them around!

Been there done that & half the time they will still say "Mai mee" without a clue.

I even took the real thing in with me, which was an air tool fitting to HomePro in BKK once. Mai mee......I thought to myself BS!

I walked 3 aisles over & found it, then took it back to show the retard they actually DID have it.

There is another thread about farangs snubbing other farangs.

I guess the threat of not being unique is just too much. Somebody said it right..it takes away from the "Thai Experience".

They would not smile back or nod at you in New York either...if that helps.

Not a good example.

In New York 80% are farangs and you don't go around saying Hello to everybody.

In Thailand, may be there is an 1% of farangs and it doesn't hurt to acknowledge a courtesy.

@ Costas... Never know. The guy might have been hungover or had indigestion, or most likely ate some som-tam that was too spicy the night before & was in desperate need of finding the Hong-Nam.

I suspect the higher up it goes, its not so much about direct connections, as much as keeping face or admitting the extent to which this country is crippled by the patronage system. Prayuth won't be keen to recant his praise

On the subject of "Saving Face" in Asia... I saw an episode of that Locked Up Abroad show, where Indonesian police had mixed up a guy's fingerprints on some heroin containers.

He got a lawyer to re-check the fingerprints. Lo & behold, they did not belong to the accused, but the police wouldn't admit it, as it would make them "Lose Face".

Poor guy did 15 years because the cops didn't want to "Lose Face" ie: admit they are bungling idiots.

This just came to mind, about the BIB.

Please sign this petition if you haven't already - http://www.change.org/p/the-government-of-the-united-kingdom-independently-investigate-the-horrific-murders-of-hannah-witheridge-and-david-miller

Would love to, but what goes where? it is all in Thai. i tried and filled in what I thought was correct, but it was rejected.

I just looked at it & the top portion was in English, the bottom half is in Thai. It's pretty simple. Just fill in the form on the right & click the big honking "Submit Button" below it.

32 people have signed it in the last 10 minutes or so. Here's is what the Petition says:

"To:

Sincerely,

[Your name]

Please sign this petition if you haven't already - http://www.change.org/p/the-government-of-the-united-kingdom-independently-investigate-the-horrific-murders-of-hannah-witheridge-and-david-miller

The UK government needs to be pressured into independently investigating two of its citizens' murders and the obvious injustice and cover up by the Thai officials. International pressure, particularly from the UK, is the only chance of the truth ever coming to light and the responsible parties being held accountable. It seems as though the UK isn't interested in dong so for fear of diplomatic repercussions, so maybe if enough of their citizens demand that they do then they'll have no choice. If they don't then they're as guilty as the corrupt Thai government and police officials as far as I'm concerned.

I just signed the petition. Not sure what good it'll do, but it didn't hurt to sign it.

It was at 45,891 when I just looked at it.

Hey BIB, want some fast money. Accuse a farang of offering a bribe.

Sigh, take that chip off your shoulder, believe it or not the BIB do extort Thais as well.

Really? How unsurprising. Perhaps you can explain to me why the "fines" my TGF is asked to pay increase when I am in the car with her?

Or why my ex-wife was found negligent when a drunken Thai man, unregistered and unlicenced, veered onto the wrong side of the road, and their bikes collided. The explanation we got was that she had a farang surname/husband and could afford to repair the damage to both bikes.

Same happened to me. Unlicensed idiot, speeding in the wrong lane, but she had a farang name, so it was her fault.

Let's shut down / block Thai Visa, Facebook, Line, Twitter, etc. and set up an official Thai-approved social media site.

Yeah, where's Pravda when we need it?

As a British resident he should have known how the situation with the parking fees here and swallowed his anger and paid up, silly man.

Doesn't deserve a beating, though.

Yeah! You almost have to pay to spit on the sidewalk in Pattaya.

Old geezer made some parking attendant (likely a relative of that guy kicking sand on the lady on the beach) lose face or his thug boss said "Go rough-up the old man".

What ever happened to CALL THE POLICE IF YOU HAVE A DISPUTE???

hahahahahahaha! Sad, but true. Like inviting Dracula to a blood transfusion.

Steering clear of altercations in Pattaya can be done...Been doing it since 1999.

I don't know the particulars of this incident.......maybe he was new or just stupid or just pissed/drunk or all 3.

I DO know I had a serious face-plant with some gravel on the Pattaya Dark-Side one day at a bar of ill repute (Black Pearl) on my way out. I was drunk enough to deserve it.....Som nam na.....I did it to myself.

The staff DID rush to my aid, as I was plastered out of my gourd.

I got a right pretty black-eye & skinned my face up a bit.

Luckily my neighbor got me home & deposited me on my front porch. His name was Bob.

Wife asked what happened to my face. I said "Bob hit me" & passed out on the couch.

Bob never hit me. He drove me home. He was my best friend.

I never told my wife any different.

She hates the sight of Bob to this day...

Bob took (and is still taking) the heat off that for me, from my wife. What a pal.

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My point is, one can get just about as stupid as you want to get......

DO NOT ever make a Thai "Lose Face" though, which is, I'm guessing, is what happened here.

It's no secret you've to pay millions to become an important police officer and it's also no secret this is very good investment - and that's not because of the 20K income you might get.

The police in Thailand is a totally corrupt mafia style organisation. It does more bad than good.

It's not just a Ko Tao thing. It's all over the country. The Thai police is a disgrace for Thailand.

It has always been like that, and the new dictator seems to be perfectly happy with the situation (I wonder why ...... ), because he didn't announce any serious police reform.

Years ago, my wife's younger brother was going through his teen years, about 17 at the time, doing a few stupid things, when I naively suggested to her that he might consider going to the "Police Academy" (STUPID ME thought they had such a thing).

She was aghast. "What? Are you stupid? It costs a LOT of money to be police!!!!!"

I'd have helped the kid out, and at the time I was making about 4 million baht a year, but she said there was no way we could afford it. I was thinking maybe 40-50 thousand baht & she said at least 2 million baht!

She said 2 million..who would you give the money to....her????

I have given my wife millions upon millions of THB.

Been married to her for 13+ years buddy. 27 when I met her & 40 now. I was 34 & am 47 now. I got LUCKY AS HELL!!!! She's a good gal from Surin. I would not trade her for anything.

She's still HOT (to me).

We have a SUPER CUTE ha-sip ha-sip daughter that is 9.

She says jump & I say "How High?"

If there's an idiot in my marriage it's me.

I ain't never been with a woman long enough for my boots to get old....Till I saw her smile.

In other words , the police are indirectly responsible for the murder of the two foreigners on Koh Tao. The extortion of the police is widespread.

I myself had to pay 50,000 THB to defend myself from another foreigner who paid the police 50,000 THB to put me in jail and deport me. Luckily my lawyer is neighbour and the wife blabbed about the bribe all over the neighbourhood. It took some doing for the lawyer to work around the police and the courts. My lawyer has many years of experience and she had to guarantee my behaviour for the next year. That is a lot easier than she believes since i never had an altercation as an adult before. I was simply defending myself from threats and an assault.

Yep, Been there done that myself Brother.

No deportation threatened against me, but had an idiot neighbor with farang husband, & they called the cops on me, AFTER the woman's katoey son was raising hell with me, as I was in MY front yard.

HE was in his hot shorts yelling at me because I had REPEATEDLY asked them nicely to shut up their yapping poodle at night.

The little "Block Captain" errr'...Momma called the cops, she called every neighbor around.....She was basically a kamnan. Her Dutch husband stayed out of it (nothing against Dutch folks).

She had "Big Influence" so I was told. I won't go into what I have fantasized about doing to her mutt.......& I love a good dog.

I also feel lower than whale shit if I bother my neighbors.

Fairly affluent neighborhood as well......TIT.

Here's my mutt. Her name is Lollipop....(the name she had when I got her...I'd have called her...something else). She's cool though & bothers NOBODY.

A bit off-topic with the dog, but the Kamnan scenario is the same.

I might add to this they didn't care that I had lived in Pattaya for 5 years longer than the goon-woman........She was Thai, I was farang. She had "Big Power".

As an ode to the the BIB that showed up though...He just mediated & did nothing except keep me from choking her & kept katoey-boy out of my yard.

2 weeks later my California neighbor poisoned the poodle.

If they go to immigration it's 4000 baths for 4 months ,i heard ,which is even a worst rip off ,when you know their salary

Sorry, but the THB Thai BAHT is not a bath.

I WISH I could get 4,000 baths at Cupidy Massage Parlor........ 4,000 / 365 = .....almost 11 years of soapies....One every day for 10.95 years.

4,000 baths / 4 months = 33+ baths per day.

BATH = washing

BAHT = Thai Currency

this fella posted this on July 29th....long story plus in the legal forum the same day, a story about an accident. You be the judge. Click name, then "find content" button and these will come up.

Need some help any ideas what i can do this is my mess i got my self into

TV mods really do bend over backwards to prevent Troll threads, do they not?

Now, since that has been said, watch how fast it disappears.

..........errr..... I meant watch how fast they delete this post.