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Thaiophil

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  1. 28 minutes ago, khunPer said:

    If you read the article I linked to, the other cases were 9 days, and two each after 4 days, so seems like they already test several times, which is also my impression from the news articles. It probably should be the same procedure in all quarantine places. Out of 5 cases, 2 were after 10 days quarantine, i.e. 40 percent. My point is that it seems like 10 days quarantine might not be fully safe; however the persons might have been infected during quarantine, some news articles also suggested that possibility...????


    when I checked out of ASQ, I asked the manager if he thought govt would move to10 days. He said no, too many cases still after 10 days. I guess he should know????

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  2. 11 hours ago, khunPer said:

    There were two cases mentioned in the news today that tested positive to Covid-19 after 11 days and 12 days in quarantine...


    Under 14 day ASQ you get tested at the beginning and near the end. If they reduced to 10 days, they would test and pick up the positive cases earlier. I read that they would likely test more often

  3. 16 hours ago, nchuckle said:

    Congratulations- enjoy the freedom.! 
    Where did you stay - any recommendations? I would be looking to pay at the lower end given it’s not an experience you can really enjoy facilities of but don’t want to be uncomfortable,or poor wifi which I’d be relying on . 
    Ive not seen much in the way of feedback on this front ,so appreciate any tips.


    I chose the Movenpick as they have a garden you can walk in every day. It’s at the pricier end, about 60k baht, but good. Internet a bit slow at times

  4. 9 hours ago, nchuckle said:

    It is true Thais don’t need a preflight Covid test .It may possibly be because the government cannot deny entry to a national via imposing conditions- although they can insist on quarantine once in the country. An airline however can impose conditions of travel on its aircraft.

    However it does mean you have been cleared of Covid but forced to sit in a confined space for 13 hours with those that haven’t ! 


    Thais have never needed a Covid test to fly home, but still have to do 2 week quarantine

     

    I was a bit concerned as my flight from Dubai to Bkk was 95% Thai remittance workers from the Gulf going home and it was jam packed. But I’ve just had my last Covid test come back negative so finally get out of ASQ tomorrow. ????

  5. 1 hour ago, Sheryl said:

    No they did nto rule it out. What they did rule out is cross infection between her and 2 other guests who tested positive while they were there.

     

    They have not identified the source of infection if she was infected there,  but then neither have they found it anywhere else.

     

    Personally, my feeling is that if there was virus on the exercise equipment (indicating sub-optimal cleaning/disinfection) then there might also have been virus in her room when she checked in, from a prior occupant.

     

    It pretty well has to be the Quarantine or else a very unusual length of incubation: around 17 days or (if infected after leaving Thailand) only 2 days. Not impossible, but unlikely.


    it could be the ASQ hotel. But equally possible  to be an undetected cluster on Samui which they haven’t found because they haven’t looked. Such clusters have occurred months after the last recorded local transmission In both China and NZ. Since Thailand doesn’t randomly test its population and was accepting mass Chinese tourism long after Covid spread in Wuhan and has large numbers of illegal migrants from Myanmar where Covid is rampant, some undetected clusters are to be expected

     

    Anyway we are well off topic now????

  6. 2 hours ago, howerde said:

    Travel insurance will be sold to anyone, it is up to the individual to make sure they are covered which at the moment they are not due to the government warning about travel to Thailand, i am not sure if the Thai embassy actually check this, as travel insurance is usually 60-90 max per trip with a max 180 days a year so does not meet the requirement, i have been told by a number of people that they have have got to Thailand with ordinary travel insurance


    the FCO is not warning against travel to Thailand. It is on the exempted list. I posted the link

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  7. 1 hour ago, Sheryl said:

    Or while in Quarantine. Infection control procedures in the hotel (no longer approved for quarantine) were found to be substandard with recoverable virus on equipment in the exercise room, for example. 

     

    Infection during quarantine is more probable than infection afterwards given how short the time lapse was before she became symptomatic.


    Thai authorities have ruled out her being infected in the ASQ hotel as they say the Covid strain in the gym was different.  Make of it what you will

     

    My ASQ hotel in Bkk is very strict

  8. 5 hours ago, howerde said:

    Thailand is not on the safe travel list https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/thailand/travel-advice-help-and-support

    It would be unlikely the you are covered on a travel insurance policy as i have just found out. What i can tell you is that the London embassy do not check(at the moment) the validity of the insurance, such as multi trip annual policies typically only cover 60-90 days per trip and usually 180ish days per year.

     


     

    Thailand remains on the list of 

    Coronavirus (COVID-19): countries and territories exempt from advice against ‘all but essential’ international travel

     

    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-countries-and-territories-exempt-from-advice-against-all-but-essential-international-travel

     

    So UK insurance still available, but if the list changes before you fly the insurance would be invalidated
     

    The other likely more expensive option is to get Thai health insurance. A list of providers can be found on the Thai Embassy website under the O-A visa guidance

     

    It is worth bearing in mind that insurance will be checked by the airline at boarding, not just by the Thai Embassy for COE purposes. 

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  9. 1 hour ago, nchuckle said:

    It’s still somewhat ambivalent regarding the specific circumstances of the op or returning to Thailand. I’ve just been looking myself and this has thrown a potential spanner in the works. I’m in Manchester and there are 3 approved airlines Etihad,Emirates,Qatar offering daily flights from Manchester to Bangkok and from Flightstats  website appear to actually historically been arriving ok.
    I’m concerned that the new uk regulations on no holidays abroad might mean that this effects demand and subsequently causes cancellations just when you have (expensively) coordinated and committed to the other requirements (quarantine etc). I don’t believe ,but am not sure ,whether this carries the same weight as FCO advice against travel (usually to specific areas) ,in that it may invalidate travel insurance. 
    On that issue ,as I could obtain (Post office) UK travel insurance which DOES include Covid (for up to a year) whether this would meet the $100,000 criteria stipulated by Thai embassy ?.. I see no specifics would exclude it ..but TIT ? Anyone actually KNOW ?

    update : Ryanair just announced they’re not canceling flights so anyone not going on their booked general holiday will lose their fare. Seems a bit of a disconnect 

     

     


    Personally, I would book from Heathrow. Less likely to be cancelled than Manchester

     

    Insurance validity is based on FCO travel advice not govt lockdown policy. As of now, Thailand is still on the safe to fly list, so insurable. But as per Thai Embassy website, make sure insurance cover note clearly shows the Covid cover demanded by the Thais or you risk hassle at check in

  10. 8 hours ago, ronaldo0 said:

    But the flights to Thailand are repatriation flights and not commercial so you can’t just book a seat and go , hence hoop jumping competition the Thai gov are running and you have to meet their criteria to get the COE .


    This is well out of date. Commercial flights from the UK and elsewhere to Thailand have been allowed for over a month. About 10 airlines are now authorised to land in Bkk. Details on Thai Embassy website.

     

    On the specific recommendation of the Thai Embassy, I booked Emirates and arrived 10 days ago without any problems

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  11. 11 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

    Yes there has been 2 recent cases. So your next move is to halt all entries into Thailand including Thai nationals? Please outline your plan moving forward.


    Foreigners need 3 consecutive negative tests over 3 weeks to get in. Chances of 3 false negatives are virtually non existent.

     

    With the so called French woman in Samui (actually Thai dual national I gather) nobody knows how she got it, but quite likely from a local undetected cluster. Such clusters have popped up in even the strictest countries such ad NZ and China

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