Fat is a type of crazy

11 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Most of these ideas are irrelevant to our lives and just don't matter.

Did the holocaust happen, I don't really care.

Did 9/11 happen, I'm not American it doesn't affect me.

Moon landings, well they can't get there now so it's irrelevant.

Is the earth flat, if I don't travel in circles around it, why would I care.

 

What most people choose to believe is not that important as most people don't have any say in how the world is run. Obey the people in power, keep your head down, and your life will be fine no matter what you choose to believe or doubt.

I think there are a range of reasons to state that the ideas and facts in your post do matter and do affect our lives. 

If I witness a murder it will affect me if I care or not. I may, by just using logic, decide that it is best to have laws to stop murder and that it is best that the truth about that murder is reported. It gives security. It gives a sense of a better future. 

You may feel that caring means you have been manipulated which is a slippery slope to political correctness.  You care for your kids. If others care a bit more broadly it may not be a weakness. 

Putting caring aside, how about the benefits and pleasure of thinking and utilising your intelligence. With no or little intellectual effort you can safely conclude that the things in your list did happen and the earth is not flat.  Not so long ago there were no flights, no vaccines, no knowledge of how most things worked. It can be fun and beneficial to defend the scientific method of thought and to utilise them in your own thinking.  

4 minutes ago, talahtnut said:

Yes, agreed, I can see that, but what about a younger age range, this graph is from the UK Office of National statistics.

Interesting figures. The article Black Prince quoted above from Reuters a few posts up does have an explanation. It is that most vaccinated people are at the older end of the 10 to 59 age group while many in the younger age group are not vaccinated in that time period.

So you might be comparing an average age of 45 or 50 for the vaccinated to 25 to 30 for the unvaccinated which skews the figures. The older age group would normally be many more times likely to die of an illness such as covid.  

I think you can find anomalies here and there but if you look overall in multiple countries there is no doubt that the vaccinated are much safer. 

She'll just have to get used to the feeling of old age creeping up on her each night..

He'll have to do young people things that he probably couldn't be bothered with .. or let her go out alone..

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9 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

Not at all who do you think you are I believe want want to believe and I do beleive some what RT says, look what they did in Afghanistan and what the USA did e.g.

Who do you think you are to ask me who do I think I am. Didn't tell you what to do. Just note that in my opinion care needs to be taken as RT, despite the merits or otherwise of individual stories, is a propaganda arm of the Russian government. 

I don't care for Putin or what he represents so I have an opinion on RT. 

6 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

I like RT they tell the truth.

I'll assume you are not being ironic. In my opinion RT trick you. They have stories that are done well and do tell the truth. It then lulls you into believing that the stories about Russia and the United States are truthful too. Often they are not.  They are designed to make Russian despots look good and democracy look bad. Don't believe the hype. 

2 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

It seems that Everyone will now need regular vaccinations to be able to function in life .

   An injection every six months in order to be able to live , or sit at home and starve or be jailed . 

I do have some sympathy with this argument. I think if you can get to 90 per cent vaccinated, as is the case where I live, let the other 10 per cent do their thing. I may be wrong but the overall increase in risk to the community must be small. The risk too is that the  10 per cent are going to feel more and more peeved until you get the protests you see now.

Still, the topic had been is the decision on the 10 per cent or in general part of a conspiracy to control or whatever, and I think it clearly is not. Similarly the decision is backed by medical findings to get a needle each 6 months.

18 minutes ago, rumak said:

thank you BM2.   C'mon ,  there must be a FEW more posters here who actually see this TWO YEAR completely crazy world shutdown for what it really is .    

What is it ? Can you give me the big picture? 

What is the real truth about Bill Gates?

Most people and places are open and free now, with some travel limitations,  so what happened to the master plan?

Some got rich and took advantage of a pandemic but it doesn't mean it was created through a conspiracy. 

The point is you can have thoughts on what might be but having that leap of faith to believe it is true is  a step too far. Like posting on the 'Do you believe in God' thread. 

44 minutes ago, Johnny Mac said:

True enough about the vaccine take up, but lets face it this will still be pretty much the same when more get vaccinated, and I don't know the figures but it must be pretty high here now % wise.

 

As for the masks, I can see us being 'told' you wear them for frigging years..

If a quick google search is correct UK is around 90 per cent double vaccinated and Thailand is about 66 per cent at best. In Australia there were changes to mask rules at 70 and 80 per cent. Basically I think at some point the government can wash there hands of it and say that anyone who wanted a vaccine could have gotten one so responsibility passes from the government to the individual.

I booked a cheap ticket in February but masks are a factor in my decision of whether to go or not. Doesn't sound like fun walking around the hotel to Karon beach in Phuket wearing a mask all the time. 

The lack of thinking things through. Thais will buy caged birds at the temple so they can be freed without thinking about how they got caged in the first place.

Buddhism is a good thing in Thailand, and as an outsider I shouldn't draw too many conclusions, but there does often seem a childish link between some who do the temple thing just to add to their luck  e.g. for buying lottery tickets. I suppose all religions have a bit of that. 

Depends on the rules of the game. If it's a one way trip I wouldn't want to go to the wild west but it would be fun to spend a week or two and come back. Life back then sucked for most people. 

If the rules mean that going back in time means you get younger too then sign me up.

But going back at my current age to a time when I was 20 or 10 would be a mixed bag, except for the bit about knowing what's going to happen, and seeing family and friends.

For example I work in an office job and the thought of not being able to work at home or to have paper files, or that the most hi tech thing is computer punch cards, then no thanks. 

12 hours ago, olfu said:

No, I didnt watch this mainstream propaganda but I did some research on movie and director and found that director stated he is a Nazi.

Have a nice day.

He's quirky and provocative and maybe a bit silly. He later said if he was asked on the day to clarify his comments he would have said he was not. He said it was one of the first interviews he had done sober. The comment was in relation to him finding out that he had german heritage and not jewish heritage as he had thought. He said later that Hitler is an icon of how cruel you can be.

The point being that, though the comment seems reprehensible, and could have landed him in jail,   he is not likely to actually be a nazi. 

Telex were a good French band too. Twist a St Tropez. They probably thought there name was quite high tech at the time. 

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One of my favourite thai cultural events was the candle festival in Ubon and I would hate to see things like that go. Same as Bangkok street food.  

But what is the government actually doing to get rid of Loi Kratong and similar festivals and events.

Even if cynical they would know it brings the tourists and tourists are money.

Maybe a bit quiet this year as everyone wakes up from lockdowns and constraints. 

1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said:

 

 

"The fact that the judge wouldn't let the victims be called victims but let them be called looters didn't help".

Jesus...    Yes, those facts, terrible things.   Let's keep facts out of trials!

 

 

24 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

That would be reIevant if I had said that "it is ok for the judge to not let victims be called victims", I did not say that, I quoted your comment, you said that!   I assume you cannot read.

I had said that the fact the judge did not allow victims to be called victims, but that they could be described as looters, is  not helpful i.e. not balanced or appropriate.

You have said 'Jesus...    Yes, those facts, terrible things.   Let's keep facts out of trials!'

The implication is that you either think I am trying to keep facts out of a trial and or that you think the judges descriptions of the individuals as looters is appropriate and therefore could be considered a fact. 

If I am missing something please let me know what your comment meant thanks.

5 minutes ago, CFCjeff said:

Maybe we call them  Victims who burn ,loot, destroy property, hate the police, and especially want to whack you round the head with a skateboard and then pummel you to death,

Putting the trial aside do you want to live in a situation where an untrained kid, in weapon use and psychologically, takes on the role of the police.

Let us assume you are correct and one or more of the victims were a bit rough and deserved punishment. Is this the appropriate way to mete out punishment. I think not. Let the police do their job. 

14 minutes ago, fjb 24 said:

what is this?

I assume you are saying that the term 'wide eyed' is racist or prejudicial. It is a point to say that the jury may be influenced by the fact that a defendant is cherubic and innocent looking and that there could be a black kid of a similar ilk and therefore the inclusion of wide eyed is not relevant.  In my opinion a white kid is more likely to be wide eyed and garner sympathy. Putting the wide eyed description aside, I think a young black kid that kills 2 in similar circumstances, might not get as much sympathy as a white kid. 

It was not a huge point I was making but I still think it has merit. 

1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said:

"I haven't seen all the ins and outs but ... I think he should get minimum 10 years".

Jesus...

 

"The fact that the judge wouldn't let the victims be called victims but let them be called looters didn't help".

Jesus...    Yes, those facts, terrible things.   Let's keep facts out of trials!

 

"I think the racial point is relevant".

Jesus...   There is no racial aspect to Rittenhouse's case!

Further, I think your point is wrong that it is OK for the judge to not let victims be called victims, but let them be  called looters. I assume you call it a fact that they are not victims but are looters. Loaded terms should be not used if they can reasonably be avoided.