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1 hour ago, 2530Ubon said:

See this post for an update... IT'S GREAT NEWS;

 

 

Thanks. I don't think anyone will be applying for a 60 day-er this month. There's no need to. 

11 minutes ago, 2530Ubon said:

Embassy letters are not required, you can apply for the 60 days now.

On Monday, the IO suggested i apply for the 60 days next week when she thought i only had until the 25th of October. Now that i have until the 30th Nov, i can wait and relax.

Everyone who currently does not have an embassy letter, or valid extension of stay (you are OK until the 31st with amnesty) is able to apply for the 60 day extension. Your 60 days will begin on the 1st of November. 3,900 Baht and NO DOCUMENTS REQUIRED! Many members were worried that there would be a financial element, ie, prove you can support yourself in Thailand or 500k seasoned over 6 months. That is not the case.

Looks like the government have realised - why kick out all these COVID free people who can spend money to stay here?

I don't think you understand how the IOs work.

It might not be necessary to have documents to "apply" for the 60 day-er, but it doesn't mean it will be "approved". These are two different things. I think the IOs will look at each application and use their discretion on whether to approve or deny. I don't think this will be like applying for a 30 day extension of a 30 day visa exempt, where you're almost guaranteed an automatic approval. Will be interesting to see what happens. 

48 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

I did mean November 30th.

If a 30 day extension was applied for today would it would end on the November 30th.

Those that applied before October 1st when immigration did a announcement only got a extension to the October 31st and they will now be changed to November 30th.

And I'm thinking, if the IO can change a reactivated 30+30 visa exempt plus extension that ends for example on 20 October to to a new end date of 30 November, which will effectively make it a 30+70 visa exempt plus extension, perhaps they can change the end date of my non b that ends in mid November to make it 105 days duration, ending on 30 November, instead of 90 days. 

47 minutes ago, 2530Ubon said:

IO confirmed that the price is 3,900 baht and NO DOCUMENTS ARE REQUIRED. Only fill in the form and provide the cash!  Great news for all.

That doesn't mean applicants will automatically be approved, like they are for a 30 day extension on their 30 day visa exempt. I think a lot will be rejected, based on IO discretion. 

Good news. Did they say when people will be able to apply for the 60 day-ers? I'm thinking it'll be from 1 November.

There's no need for it to be before then, and they probably want to force more people without embassy letters to leave, and then anyone still remaining on 1 November (with an extended permission to stay until 30 November) will be able to begin applying for a further 60 days....

1 hour ago, ubonjoe said:

 

Thanks bjaz. I've looked into that route and it's very confusing. Some agents said they can get me a 12 month retirement extension in my non b, some said they can get me a 3 month non o, and some said they can do nothing. I've given up on that for the time being because I think they'll take my money and then tell me they can't go anything, and I'm hoping to do things directly with the IO. I'll look at the agency route again though towards the end of this month if I've not found a direct IO solution.

Thanks, it's a real mind-bender.

I'll probably try to extend next week and I'll let you know what happens.

Hopefully the currently unofficial 60 day amnesty extension form will become useable by then so I'll be able to get 60 days from the mid November expiry of my non b until mid January, just like I could if I was doing a 60 day family extension. This would allow me to keep the December wedding date.

I've no idea if I could then get another 60 day extension based on marriage in mid January.

Cheers Ubon Joe.

23 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

You fall into a different category than those that are applying for the 30 day extensions now due to being on a valid permit to stay now.

That's true, but then so are people who have activated the 30 day extension of their visa exempt, and yesterday you wrote elsewhere that they can also apply to stay until 30 Nov.

So, both they and I were on amnesty and then went off amnesty by activating a valid permit to stay - me for three months on a non b from August, and them for 30 days on a visa exempt extension from September. Theirs will expire in October and mine in November. That's the only difference between me and them that I can see, yet you're saying they can apply to stay until 30 Nov but I can't.

Is that because they're on a valid extension of permission to stay and I'm on an original permission to stay?

6 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

But your situation is much different than others asking about the 60 day extension since they are already on a 30 day extension or the amnesty until the 31st.

That's correct. Hence my interest in the subject. If and when they start being offered the 60 day extension using this currently unofficial form, then I'll give it a try to see if someone in my sitation can also get it. 

3 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

I cannot keep track of all the posts you have done. I just replied to a topic you posted where you wrote you are on a 90 day entry from non immigrant visa.

You are not on the amnesty now according that topic.

Sorry, this thread isn't about my specific situation. It's for general discussion and information gathering about the currently unofficial new 60 day amnesty extension form that people are starting to be given by IOs. 

9 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

You could possibly apply for it but it would not start until the end of your current 90 day entry that is valid until November.

You are not under the amnesty at this time.

Best to wait and see if the 60 day extension is possible.

Thanks. Yes, if I applied to extend now, I'd only get two extra weeks - mid November (end of validity of my non b) until 30 November. However, I don't think I can apply for anything now as my non b isn't in its final 30 days of validity yet. It will be in its final 30 days of validity after the middle of October. 

I'll almost certainly wait to see if the 60 day extension method is approved. My only concern there is that my embassy letter is beginning to age (obtained on 21 September), and the IO may not accept it if it's over 30 days old. The embassy isn't issuing new letters since 26 September. 

5 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

Why would there be many people applying for it at the end of this month. 

If already on an extension you can stay until November 31st. If not you could apply now for an extension to the the 31st of November.

Because they'd rather wait and apply for 60 days, 1 November until 30 December.

Or perhaps they don't have an embassy letter so cannot apply for the 30 November extension now.

It's my understanding that those who overstayed on 26 September and then went onto the new amnesty either have to leave before 31 October or have an embassy letter to get an extension. However, if they can't get an embassy letter then it looks like this affidavit 60 day extension application form, if it becomes official, negates the need for an embassy letter. 

14 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

 

1. That depends upon your permit to stay you have now. If you are on a 90 day entry from the non-b visa they would not do a 30 day extension now. If on an extension of stay it would have to be canceled before you could apply for a 30 day extension.

2. Not sure if there is going to be a 60 day extension and it depends upon your answer to what I have asked before.

So you don't think I'll be able to extend my non b for amnesty purposes with my embassy letter? Either until the end of November like is being given to others who used an embassy letter (although they were on amnesty and I'm not) or until the end of December if the new 60 day amnesty form becomes official?

I was hoping to soon be able to get this much talked about 60 day extension for amnesty purposes in order to not have to move the wedding from December to this month (and then apply for a 60 day extension for married purposes)

10 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

Are you on the original 90 day entry from a non-b visa or did you apply for an extension of it before.

Thanks for the advice. I'm on an original 3 month non b obtained and paid for by the employer in mid August after being offered a job. The plan was to be in employment now, but I cannot work due to a health problem.

Trying to find a way to still be in Thailand for the mid December wedding, but will probably have to bring it forward to this month.  

16 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

Probably because it is not official yet. Immigration has not issued anything about it that I am aware of. I think it may require a notice or order done by the interior ministry that has to be approved by the cabinet for them to be issued.

Indeed, but they're not doing themselves any favours if their offices  are quiet for the next couple of weeks and then swarming at the end of the month. Deja vu. 

I have:

- an in-country three month non-b that won't be extended for work purposes and expires mid Nov

- No work permit and no job

- An unused embassy letter dated 21 Sept asking for permission for a new non imm visa for retirement purposes

- 800,000 baht overseas but not yet brought into Thailand

- A Bangkok Bank account

Should I:

1 - go to immigration today and use the embassy letter to extend until 30 Nov

2 - apply for a 60 day covid extension once they're available and my non b is in its final 30 days

3 - use an agent to extend the non b for retirement purposes

4 - use an agent to get a non o

5 - bring 800k baht into Thailand now or wait (because there's no point bringing it in if I have to leave next month)

6 - bring forward wedding plans from December in order to get a 60 day family extension

Best options as of now?

8 hours ago, Dragonboat Ronin said:

I called Si Sa Ket Immigration and asked by phone; they said i could come end of October with an extension letter to get extended to end of December, 

I wonder why you'd need to wait until the end of the month to apply for it.

A slightly different version of the form has surfaced. 

4 hours ago, Mike Teavee said:

I thought I read somewhere (Can't find it now) that the 60 day "Tourist" extension comes into effect 1st November so anybody needing an extension before the end of October will get however many days there are between the date they extend & the 30th November (e.g. apply today & get 42 days). 

 

Not quite right I think.

Anyone who overstayed last month until the new amnesty was announced, either because they couldn't get an IO appointment or they took a chance on the amnesty extending (I think those are the only two groups, I don't accept that there's a third group that can't leave but couldn't get an embassy letter, because lots of countries are open around the world for them to fly to, and not wanting to go there isn't exactly a valid excuse) should, it sounds like, soon be able to apply for a 60 day extension from the end of the current amnesty i.e. for 1 November to 30 December. Although as Ubonjoe pointed out elsewhere, it may not exist. 

Were I in that camp I'd be trying to do it as soon as possible. 

6 minutes ago, 2530Ubon said:

I emailed immigration ([email protected])

Don't hold your breath waiting for an email reply from a Thai government office. 

now three forum posts (one of them even stole the pictures from this one

Wow you're touchy. I didn't realise that reposting images on the forum was theft.

You started this thread, like so many others, to relay your personal experience. It becomes a mess to follow when everyone starts their own thread, so I created one for everyone to use. It's common sense. 

This is ridiculously cheap. Nothing comes close in Phuket. I think it's Cha Am. Does anyone know where this is?

20 minutes ago, jvs said:

I only go to Hua hin if i have to,i think you can compare Cha-am as being the dark side of Hua hin.

Everything cheaper and less hassle.

Interesting. I've never been. Does it have any decent (suitable for westerners) and well-priced moobans or condos?

I'm heading up that way for a road trip later this month. I'll have a look around. 

On 10/2/2020 at 8:19 PM, jvs said:

I used to live in Hua-hin around ten years ago,moved away because the traffic was becoming terrible,it is worse now.Very hard to park any where and it takes a long time to pass thru the town.

 

Why not change to a motorbike? Much easier to park and zip through traffic. I'd never want to own a car in Thailand. More trouble than it's worth. 

On 10/1/2020 at 9:24 AM, geriatrickid said:

Except for the air pollution which was pretty bad most of the year. The burning was ridiculous.

Otherwise good access to hospital, culture, shopping, dining, beach, quality residents.

The benefit of the old palace being there is that it keeps a lid on debauchery.

Unlike Phuket, no water shortages and the dengue epidemics are  usually less severe.

And soon a high speed train.

So there are lots of farms around the province that burn their stubble? Such a pity. As Phuket and the south in general lacks grain agriculture, it avoids this problem.

20 minutes ago, Chrisroundtheworld said:

I guess I'll wait until next week to see if this 60 day visa starting November 1st comes into fruition.

 

If the 60 day November amnesty does occur, that means that we can stay in Thailand under Covid amnesty until essentially JANUARY 1st??

30 December.

If you're ready to apply, why not print out the form and give it a try this week?