Promula

17 minutes ago, Poet said:

17 people working for an office in Thailand. What has that got to do with remote working? Your example fits into the category of "actual job".

Why are you so upset about this? You asked the guy a question, he gave you accurate information. Your reaction seems unhinged. If, as you say, you are just trolling, it is more effective if you can make yourself look sane and the other guy insane.

It's very odd to deem someone as being "upset" and "unhinged" for debating a grey area and putting forward an argument based on what they've heard and read. Coming to such a conclusion suggests that it's you and not me that's emotionally involved in this topic.  

They were remote working for customers in China. The fact that one of them found the Chinese students, collected their payments, and took a cut before passing it on to the remote workers changes nothing.

Your argument appears to be that because the money was channelled through one of them rather than moving directly from each Chinese student to each teacher, this made their time spent labouring and earning money become illegal. Is that what you're saying?

2 minutes ago, tomazbodner said:

Not every condo is a leasehold. Actually, most are freehold.

That's interesting but it still wouldn't tempt me. What happens if the building starts to subside and needs to be torn down?

Agreed, and there's no way I'm bringing millions of baht into the country to buy anything in Thailand. Plus isn't buying a condo simply a 30 year rental? As it's leasehold.  

I much prefer to not have to deal with the management company, pay the building fees, and worry about having to sell it if I want or need to move. I'll stick with monthly Airbnb. Apart from the fees, there are no downsides that I can see. 

There's next to no information about what the application criteria are. Hopefully that will become apparent soon when people start getting accepted or rejected. 

7 hours ago, donnacha said:

No one has ever been prosecuted for remote working in Thailand and there is no practical way that any country could enforce such a law.

 

Yeah if you say so lol. Presumably you think you don't need to pay taxes too, and such things are beneath smug you. 

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/794216-17-foreign-‘english-teachers’-arrested-in-chiang-mai-for-working-illegally/

Thanks. Do they have monthly rates for condos on there? Daily rates are much more expensive.

On 10/3/2020 at 1:06 AM, donnacha said:

No online teacher or any other online worker has ever been arrested in Thailand.

Employment Prohibited means that you cannot take an actual job in Thailand or solicit Thai clients while in Thailand on a Tourist or other non-business visa.

The only people who care if you do online work for foreign clients are retired expats and English teachers on work permits who are personally offended that they are paid too little to live on while those with valuable skills can make so much more.

 

This simply sounds like you're deluding yourself with an interpretation of Thai law which suits your choices, and then trying to feel smug about it by deeming anyone who disagrees as being "bitter". These are common psychological occurrences in those looking to reassure and comfort themselves.

Perhaps you should stop to consider that those who disagree with you perhaps are older and wiser than you or much more wealthy than you hence have no need to work anywhere, and they simply enjoy a good discussion or troll about those who think they're so clever when they may be nothing more than illegal immigrants.

6 hours ago, donnacha said:

No one has ever been prosecuted for remote working in Thailand 
 

And you know this how?

36 minutes ago, sungod said:

For the future.....It must be a renters market, why anyone is paying 2 months deposit at a moment is beyond me. Offer a month and write it off. If you do get anything back then treat yourself.

I think the future is online. No deposit on Airbnb (any problems are arbitrated by Airbnb) and a standard contract as such, again managed by Airbnb. It removes all the <deleted>. It's just a pity that they take a 15/% cut (3% from owner, 12% from renter) which is quite steep.

6 minutes ago, samsensam said:

 

 i've lived in several apartments and never had any issues,

Thanks for the info. However, this is a condo building not an apartment building. Individual units bought and owned by landlords. Arranged by an agent, and I've never met the landlord, who lives in Bangkok but seems to have got rid of the agent since I moved in. It's a different kettle of fish to an apartment where the owner owns the whole building and you can ask other people what they're like.

As a side note, the condo building, facilities, staff and security are fine.  

1 hour ago, 2530Ubon said:

It's not just for tourists - anyone who is currently on amnesty can apply i think

What about anyone who is not currently on amnesty, such as those with one year visas/extensions that are about to finish and not be extended?

16 minutes ago, JAS21 said:

 One day on the way back from the gym he had a stroke and died .... so as Sheryl says    'Withdrawal effects can be life threatening'

It might have been nothing to do with stopping the medicine. 

7 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

It would be a standard tourist visa instead of the STV that was proposed. Apparently it has not been finalized yet or approved.

The article also mentioned non immigrant visas as well.

Which sounds like it could be more to do with longterm raising of the "quality" of tourists whilst reducing the quantity of tourists going forward, rather than anything specific to covid. Lots of countries have a means test for tourist visas.

3 minutes ago, audaciousnomad said:

Thanks. The OP is the first we are hearing of 60-day extensions for tourists. Historically it was only 30 days. Hence my "connecting the dots".

The words you're referring to in that article mention a 60 day stay extendable for 30 days. That's what a standard TV does, not this new 60 day in-country extension being discussed.

4 minutes ago, 2530Ubon said:

It's still thrown away, as i could have had it for free, or, i could have used the embassy letter i had and received 60 days.

Why did you opt for a TV extension instead of the embassy letter method?

I don't think you threw it away. You paid for peace of mind for not going onto overstay.

2 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

That is for getting a visa and certificate of entry at a embassy or official consulate for certain visa categories. 

Nothing to do with getting a 60 day extensions at immigration.

But which visas last 60 days other than (the currently suspended and replaced by the STV) tourist visa?

Foreigners who wish to stay in Thailand for 60 days can extend the duration for an extra 30 days by providing a six-month bank statement, equivalent to at least 500,000 baht, to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs for permission.

1 minute ago, 2530Ubon said:

How can one season something without any notice? Why would one be seasoning anything as a tourist? You're going to be spending it, not saving it. This is either another fine example of Thai nonsense, or we're obtuse farang speculating on rumours.

I mean passively seasoned i.e. you have this money and have had it for the past six months. I don't mean actively seasoned whereby you move money into your account in advance to demonstrate that you have it.

If there's no seasoning requirement people will be able to get a 24 hour loan from a friend or the bank on the day of extension application.

8 minutes ago, 2530Ubon said:

 i think this will be 500k spent in/accrued whilst in Thailand. It wouldn't be possible to season 500k for 6 months with only 30 (or 60, depending on which extension your currently on) days notice

I doubt it. For tourists, it's more likely to be a bank statement printout from your overseas bank showing you have a six month seasoned 500k baht equivalent of savings to sustain a continued stay in Thailand as evidence that you don't need to work illegally.

50 minutes ago, scoupeo said:

if you apply this month, they start your new visa from the day you apply, not november 1st, exactly as they did last month !

apply today, your extension starts october 6th, not november 1st

easy to understand

 

Do you have a 60 day stamp that ends on 5 December? Would be good to see. 

39 minutes ago, 2530Ubon said:

 Means testing shouldn't be a problem - update passboook to show international transfers.

I doubt that would be a requirement. Most tourists won't have a local bank account and will be using other methods such as ATM cash withdrawals from their overseas bank.

14 minutes ago, audaciousnomad said:

1. Not permitted to enter DESTINATION country, or ongoing covid-19 pandemic
***It does not mention HOME country, and also ongoing pandemic accepted as a valid reason

I'm not sure that's what they mean though, otherwise it's pointless, because anyone can just say "Oh, I'm waiting to fly to Japan (or any random country) and it's not open yet". Presumably they'd have to show a reason such as they were there before arriving in Thailand, have been offered a job there, have family there etc. 

On 10/3/2020 at 1:06 AM, donnacha said:

Employment Prohibited means that you cannot take an actual job in Thailand or solicit Thai clients while in Thailand on a Tourist or other non-business visa.

The only people who care if you do online work for foreign clients are retired expats and English teachers on work permits who are personally offended that they are paid too little to live on while those with valuable skills can make so much more.

So any home-based worker employed by a business in the west (which since covid-19 there are many millions) can live and work legally in Thailand on tourist visas?

Just now, Deli said:

@Promula  looks like you got what you deserved

And what's that then?