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1 hour ago, sqwakvfr said:

As a former legal immigrant who became a naturalized citizen I would agree immigration (the kind where you get a visa and enter at a port of entry) is beneficial to the US Economy.  

You think those dairies, farms, construction companies, meat packing plants etc are giving those illegal aliens money because they're moved by charitable impulses?

3 hours ago, G_Money said:

No, the facts of murder and crimes committed by your skilled worker illegal aliens.

 

Go back a page or two and educate yourself.

 

Before you go on your meltdown about Fox News they are an approved news source within the guidelines of the forum

 

If you have issues with that, bring it up to the attention of the moderators.   Nobody wants to hear a grown man crying like a baby.

 

 

Take a deep breath!

It doesn't matter where the facts come from if they're irrelevant. And yours are. And cherry picked to boot. What does a random murderer by someone have to do the economic effect of millions of undocumented workers on the US economy?

2 minutes ago, G_Money said:

Leave it up to Joe.  Piece of work isn’t he?

 

https://www.foxnews.com/media/biden-admin-shredded-politicians-referring-illegal-immigrants-newcomers-serious-people

WHat has this got to do with the effect of illegal immigrants on the economy. More irrelevancy from you.

15 minutes ago, G_Money said:

“It's good for the economy and the immigrants. “

This skilled worker was really good for the economy.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/us/defense-attorney-slams-florida-sheriff-after-charges-dismissed-for-illegal-migrant-accused-deputy-death

More cherry picking. And this time about a dubious police arrest. Did you read the part about the manslaughter charge being dismissed?And what does this have to do with the economic  benefit that migrants bring to the economy? You think harvesting crops, building and repairing homes, maintenance work tending to dairy cattle, delivering food, or working in a meat processing plant require graduate degrees?

Joe Biden Tells Netanyahu 'No Excuses' for Lack of Gaza Aid
President Joe Biden on Friday said there were "no excuses" for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to prohibit more humanitarian aid from entering Gaza.

Biden made the comment while hosting a bilateral meeting with Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni. His remarks also came as the Associated Press (AP) reported the United States will soon begin air-dropping humanitarian aid into Gaza.

https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-tells-netanyahu-theres-no-excuses-lack-gaza-aid-1875233

Joe Biden says US to airdrop aid into Gaza as threat to civilians rises
Move follows death of dozens of Palestinians during chaotic delivery of humanitarian goods

The US will begin airdropping food aid into Gaza, US President Joe Biden said on Friday, amid an increasingly acute humanitarian crisis on the ground after months of Israeli attacks in the enclave.
The decision comes as the Biden administration grows increasingly concerned about the threat posed to civilians and as aid shipments in the besieged enclave are severely disrupted, and assistance was failing to reach people most in need...

“We need to do more and the United States will do more and in the coming days, we are going to join with our friends from Jordan and others to provide airdrops of supplies,” Biden said, adding that the US is also exploring the possibility of opening “a marine corridor delivering large amounts of humanitarian assistance”.

https://archive.ph/uq4Ya#selection-2243.0-2243.322

https://www.ft.com/content/c36c0386-8acb-48bc-a84b-8dfa636d00b4

7 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

AHH... those kind and benevolent muslims at it again... somehow this will be blamed on trump though

It looks like Trump has taken up permanent living quarters in your brain.

3 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

I feel sorry for your upbringing if that is truly your opinion.

Another sad attempt to make this personal. Just shows how little in the way of rational argument you have to offer.

3 hours ago, KhunLA said:

News about someone opinion, or not having one yet, that is completely irrelevant to the issue.  

 

NEWSFLASH:  States laws decide the legality of abortions, not presidents.

Another NEWSFLASH: It would be perfectly Constitutional for the Congress to pass a law limiting abortions to a specific window of time. That's unlikely to happen. But what Trump could do is have the FDA severely curtail the use of mifepristone, the morning after bill. He wouldn't need Congressional approval for that. In fact, one of Trump's extremist appointees to the Federal Bench,  Matthew Kacsmaryk, ordered the FDA to suspend approval of its use. That ruling has been in limbo while it awaits a Supreme Court decision. So there is the possibility that the rightwing majority on the Supreme Court will back that prohibition. In that case, Trump won't need to do anything. I suspect he's praying for that not to happen since it would almost certainly hurt his election prospects.

18 hours ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

Well done George I salute your indefatigability and the wisdom of the citizens of Rochdale. He sussed out Israel's liar-in-chief  Eylon Levy and the US Congress way back when, and doesn't suffer fools gladly. Probably the greatest on the stump speaker the British system has ever produced, born in poverty from the tenements of Glasgow. An arrogant, self-opinionated in it for himself man for sure, but then aren't most politicians. But one who spouts poetry when the others merely splutter weasel words.

 

Let the frothers froth and cowards demure - but he will keep the red flag flying here !  (or at least until the next election or when he is banned from Parliament !)

 

 

 

He's certainly a terrific speaker but I do have questions about his alleged efforts in South Africa.  I looked to find independent evidence that Galloway had ever done there what he claimed. I couldn't find any. I'm not asserting it doesn't exist, but it's odd that, at best, it's hard to find.

9 hours ago, JonnyF said:

 

Indeed. Some places will become easier to live in, some will be harder.

 

The climate has been changing for millions of years and will continue to change for the next million years. Buying an electric car won't change that. Humans will adapt, and elites will use it to scare the proles into handing over more money in "green taxes"

Someone else who apparently doesn't understand the concept of rates.

9 hours ago, Mutt Daeng said:

 

The title should be changed to include the word "Fees". It's the tuition fees that are being eliminated, not the tuition.

Tuition fees are what tuition is composed off. But if you can find anything in the article or elsewhere that shows otherwise, please share it with the rest of us.

3 hours ago, NorthernRyland said:

Then refute my point. If GDP growth is desirable in and of itself then explain why mass importing the 3rd world isn't a good idea. India has a GDP of 3 trillion which could be absorbed in to the US. That's a big number and big numbers are good right?

Your comment was so foolish that I couldn't take it seriously. It's the same kind of reasoning that says if eating one piece of fruit per day is good for your health, then eating 100 is even better. Or if one ibuprofen can cure a headache  then a hundred will cure someone of headaches forever. Do you really need more examples of why your claim  was so foolish? Does it really need to be spelled out any further?

8 minutes ago, johng said:

But are definitely caused by "global warming"  and that warming is definitely caused by human activity ?

Yes, definitely. I'm guessing you're about to invoke some critique based on the observation that no cause in the world can be characterized as 100% certain. If that were a meaningful comment, then all science and technology would be built on a heap of sand. In the real world, science and technology work, even nuclear physics are ultimately based on statistics. 

6 minutes ago, johng said:

Clearly the "scientists" don't either !

Really? It's false that scientists don't understand what "primary driver signifies? other Pavlovian comment from you.

35 minutes ago, digger70 said:

Here we go Again, Scientists are at it againScaring people for nothing  

see for yourself what they think, 

 

One factor contributing to the warming in the North Atlantic may be a reduction in pollution, particularly sulfur dioxide emissions from container ships. With fewer aerosols in the atmosphere to create cloud cover, more solar radiation reaches the ocean's surface, further heating the water. However, this alone cannot account for the extreme heat observed.  

 

This just shows that they are just Dreamers and on drugs,

The proof that what you're denying about aerosols is nonsense is very clear. Occasionally, when there's a truly catastrophic eruption of a volcano that sends huge quantities of aerosols into the atmosphere, what invariably follows is global cooling.

Effect of volcanic eruptions significantly underestimated in climate projections

Where and when a volcano erupts is not something that humans can control, but volcanoes do play an important role in the global climate system. When volcanoes erupt, they can spew sulphur gases into the upper atmosphere, which forms tiny particles called aerosols that reflect sunlight back into space. For very large eruptions, such as Mount Pinatubo in 1991, the volume of volcanic aerosols is so large that it single-handedly causes global temperatures to drop.

https://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/effect-of-volcanic-eruptions-significantly-underestimated-in-climate-projections

19 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

You appear to mis understand the simplest things when it suits you .  I claimed nothing in my earlier post. Even a child would have noticed the presence and implication of the question marks. I have no issues in owning up to  asking a question, which is exactly what I did ,  two questions to be precise.. Neither of which you have answered  So your first paragraph belongs in the bin

 

All those jobs you refer to in the second paragraph are perfectly suitable to be done by  the indigenous population, refusal should not be an option. There should be no unskilled immigrant working any job when unemployment is being claimed by somebody capable of doing it. 

Just because an activity is illegal, does not, and should not make it a career option for foreigners regardless of the laws of supply and demand. 

Sure you just asked questions based on a ridiculous assumption because....? No way it was a rhetorical question? Which is "a question asked in order to create a dramatic effect or to make a point rather than to get an answer." Disingenuous much? You're not fooling anybody.

So how do you plan to get these alleged native born workers to do these jobs? And what happens to those industries while they're waiting for that to happen? More Pavlovian right wing nonsense from you.

5 minutes ago, BigStar said:

 

Sufficient evidence that she said and believed the election was stolen from her, yes. You may google more for yourself, enough with the spoonfeeding. You're still dancing around and not admitting you believe her. 🙂

 

 

And you haven't admitted you agree with all the rest. But of course you do.

 

Now, since you're really just a leftist troll not amenable to reason, and ignorant besides as you only read superficial propaganda, it's not worth attempting to discuss anything seriously with you. I know the type from years of experience. Having refuted the nonsense of your OP, I leave our opinionators to it. I have other things to do.

Always impressive when someone declares themself to be the victor.

2 minutes ago, BigStar said:

 

Had sufficient supply during the time Trump pretty much shut down the border and NO vast welfare burden to support the undocumented Democratic Party voters. Now certainly our <deleted>libs do want cheap servants they can't afford now, so the immigrants form a new enslaved class to liberal slaveowners. The Democratic party was the part of slavery, so this fits in well historically. 🙂 

It's overwhelmingly Republicans who consistently oppose minimum wage increases and unionization.

Just now, G_Money said:

What’s this?  The world according to educated idiots?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect

2 minutes ago, BigStar said:

 

Oh, so you DO still believe it. LOL.

 

From your own fave source. Stolen's stolen. 🙂 

 

Hillary Clinton says the 2016 election was ‘stolen’ from her

 

Do you still believe all these, too?

 

Stolen, rigged and illegitimate: Democrats’ long history of objecting to election results

a sound clip that lasts a few seconds is your idea of good evidence. It is to laugh.

As for the rest, neither Clinton or Abrams claimed actual conspiratorial election fraud.

2 minutes ago, G_Money said:

Unlike you I don’t need a “stat sheet” to point out common sense.

 

I know scientists have a hard time grasping that concept.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect

1 minute ago, Bday Prang said:

So what all these b/s statistics  by all these  b/s institutes are trying to have us believe is that  all these illegals, intending or attempting to relocate are nothing other than an international emergency volunteer squad, currently on standby, just waiting to be told where their economy saving  skills are needed next.  Their only purpose in life being  to save the developed world from economic disaster, and such is their dedication to their cause, that even muslims are willing to put their inherent dislike of the west on hold , in order to  assist in the saving of our economies. despite the ever present threat of islamophobia   We should all be eternally grateful that they still agree  to come . and  wouldn't it be just terrible if they all decided to pack up and go home

Clearly, your comments betray no understanding of the the economic laws of supply and demand. 

Just now, NorthernRyland said:

If America imports the entire population of India think of how much GDP that would produce! I can't think of a single reason why this wouldn't be a great idea. 💩

Well, while it's touching in a way for you to confess to your own mental incapacity, I don't know why you're sharing it with us here. Are you looking for some kind of remediation?