Danderman123

I noticed that the usual exodus of customers this year was delayed from the day after Songkran until May 1. There was an extra week of heavy traffic.

No matter the situation, its always good to rely on the factual evidence, as opposed to some internet troll's talking points. We've got people here who claim they don't believe scientists (although they seem to have no problem using technologies developed by scientists). Not healthy.

You can't do anything about the weather, but its not irrelevant to your life. More importantly, your understanding of the impact of individuals is not useful. As an example, the decision of one person to attend a football match may not seem important, but if 60,000 people individually decide not to attend, the team would be significantly impacted. Same with climate change. One individual cannot make a noticeable difference, but lots of individuals can.

I couldn't get a Bolt taxi at night during High Season last year. Baht buses were at capacity. It was common to see people at night walking from Jomtien to Pattaya. Then, about May 1, things got very quiet.

Reality has a left wing bias.

You are suggesting that facts don't matter. That the only reality is the one in your mind, outside sources need not apply, unless they fit in your personal viewpoint. http://www.columbia.edu/~mhs119/Temperature/ Unfortunately, a working definition of crazy people is that they deny reality. I'll give you another shot with this chart - can you see that the temperature is rising?

Prices in early December are not so high.

And yet, the planet is warming, despite the locale where conferences are held. https://berkeleyearth.org/july-2023-temperature-update/ BTW, where are oil industry conferences held?

How about posting enacted laws, rather than proposals?

You constantly refer to a movie featuring oil company funded scientists.

What natural forces are causing the recent warming?

Let me recap the bidding. Please tell me where you disagree: Carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas, and traps heat in the lower atmosphere. Until 40 years ago, CO2 concentrations in the atmosphere have been at 280 ppm. Today, CO2 is at 400+ ppm and rising. Additional CO2 causes more warming. Much of this excess CO2 is produced by humans. So, with which of these do you disagree?

The MMCC was debunked long ago. I don't want to get into the consensus issue. Instead, you could demonstrate that there is a continued debate by providing recent scientific papers disproving the Global Warming hypothesis. There are hundreds, if not 1000s of papers proving some aspect of Climate Change that are published every year. But, even with oil company money, scientists rarely produce contrary peer reviewed papers, because of the reality thing.

So one poster says politicians aren't doing enough and another that they are doing too much. Guys, work it out between you.

Please provide data disproving the Global Warming hypothesis. Note that the movie you refer to was debunked long ago. And the planet has gotten a lot warmer since that movie.

Do you believe in witches, too? Do you think politicians should rely on scientists or simply on whatever feeling they have today? Why is it that scientists who receive funding from oil companies are the correct ones, in your opinion, even if they havd been proven wrong?

Are there fields of science outside of climate science where you think scientists are wrong? Do you think the Earth is flat? Do you understand that FlatEarthers likewise think scientists are wrong?

What natural forces are causing the current warming?

One of the participants was Richard Lindzen, who has been consistently wrong about Global Warming: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02148/RSL-HouseOfCommons_2148505a.pdf The top chart is Lindzen's, the bottom is from NASA. Lindzen has predicted cooling back in the 1980s, and was wrong. Of course, he receives funding from oil companies, and has lied about it: https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Richard_S._Lindzen You can read more of Lindzen's crackpot discredited arguments at the above.

Al Gore, in his movie about Global Warming, predicted that the planet would get warmer. He was right.

The planet has been warming for 40+ years. What natural forces are increasing solar temperatures? Here's a hint: when you want to boil water, you have to turn up the heat on your stove. Likewise, what is "turning up" the Earth's temperature?

A movie featuring scientists funded by the oil industry, claiming that the current warming was caused by increased solar activity. And they were wrong.

This is an old chestnut. There was a short term cooling trend in the 1970s, during some scientists speculated that this might lead to an Ice Age, if the trend continued. They offered no studies, nor did they predict more cooling. At the end of the 1970s, there was talk of a nuclear winter that would result from nuclear war. Some low information types conflated these two distinct speculations into a memory of scientists predicting global cooling.

If your point is that national efforts to reduce pollution have been lackluster, I can't disagree. Some countries have made efforts, but overall, results are not so good. And the planet keeps warming.

Since the topic is about warming, do you think the Sun is making the Earth warmer than before? Do you really believe that increased Solar output is responsible for the last 40 years of warming?