Morch

You do not speak for 'every reasonable person on the planet'. Just more hot-air.

A credible link to which part, exactly? Most of what I posted is common knowledge for anyone following this. Much of what I posted now was discussed way earlier in the topics as well. I see your new bogus thing is Islamophobia. Give it a rest.

Did I claim you were 'antisemitic'? I do not deny 'any war crime by Israel'. I'm saying that your wholesale, decisive pronouncements are your opinions, not a legal fact. And that has nothing to do with Islamophobia, other than in your twisted logic.

That is not true. Civilians die on many wars, such death are not considered 'war crimes' in the wholesale manner you suggest.

War casualties include civilians.

Do you actually read posts and try to comprehend them before charging in?

No, I do not 'admit' your contrived nonsense,

Care to show an example? Never mind your 'to the core' nonsense.

Indeed. That's one reason I think the situation will be resolved - too many interests are being effected. As a long term goal, absolutely.

Hamas leadership is structured in a way that there are actually several people at the top, representing different 'wings' (or bodies) of Hamas. There is also a further division between representatives of Hamas in the Gaza Strip and abroad. There is no clear hierarchy when it comes to decision making, and a certain measure of autonomy involved. Right now, reports suggest that the more 'political' wings, especially those abroad are more in favor of negotiations, but their influence on the military wing in the Gaza Strip is limited. This also has to do with personal rivalries and relationships. There are recent reports alleging Hamas 'political' wings are also trying to 'make peace' with the Fatah, talks about joining the mainstream of Palestinian politics. Whether this is indeed so, or whether its just something taken to alleviate political pressures (or to apply pressure on the military wing in the Gaza Strip) is yet to be seen.

Indeed. More to the point, all them UN bodies, NGO's and such - they do have accountants.....so 'we didn't know' won't cut it.

There is no requirement that war casualties would be 'equal'.

No, that's just you saying things, as usual. You do not address actual points. You do not respond to facts. Almost all of your posts on this are the same - hot air, big words and that's it. As said more than once - I see most of what Israel does in the West Bank as wrong, less so when it comes to the Gaza Strip. You can continue to misrepresent my views, of course - it's not like you have much use for fact, reality and so on.

There is no 'genocide' other than in comments seeking to hype things and degrade the meaning of the word. As for paying-the-price-for-generations-to-come - just another of your usual hot-air nonsense comments. Pay how? What price? Generations? You just toss words about, not bothering whether they mean anything. Obviously no realistic input as to what an 'appropriate' response would have been and how it could have been carried out. You don't do that.

What 'heads in the sand'? The UN is in force on the Gaza Strip - several agencies operating there. So is WHO, and other organizations. Most of them work closely with the health system in the Gaza Strip. To assume they weren't aware, had no knowledge is a joke.

Children are the responsibility of their parents. You don't seem to have much issues with the relevant Palestinian government (Hamas) creating a situation where they will come under threat, nor providing them with any shelter (despite such being readily available).

I'm am not a homosexual. But I did travel with homosexual friends, trip partners etc. My impression was that in Muslim countries/areas, hiding this was much more a thing. Even in places which were relatively 'open', 'modern'.

I understand their reservations, but that might indicate that the alleged 'genocide' is not all that threatening.

I will answer your responses and points in order, but without quoting each and every segment. I know Gazan mobs were joining in the attack because I can watch reports, including ones from Gaza (at the time) with Gazan reporters covering it. Also, Hamas itself claimed as much, trying to pin most of the atrocities on them. To date, Hamas cannot account for all the hostages taken, and claims some were taken by such mobs. This would make sense considering just as the attack was winding down and a bit later, Hamas was promising rewards for hostages being delivered to its custody. One thing about this attack and the atrocities involved is that things were widely documented - mostly by the attacking forces, even. As for kids being involved - I would venture 'yes', given that Hamas 'definition' of kids is 'under 18'. There were definitely such on footage seen. Other than that - you're trolling. The faux requirement you place on Israel's response to be justified is an imaginary one. There is no such requirement that only those directly involved will be punished. War is messy, civilians and innocents often get hurt. That is an acknowledgement reflected in many of the legalities referencing and regulating the conduct of war. Obviously, it would have been better it it was otherwise, but we live in an imperfect world. Israel would hardly be expected to let in Gazans into its territory after 7/10. As you yourself point out, Hamas terrorists do not always wear uniforms. Considering that the relevant areas are also used/were used as staging ground for troops, this would make little military sense. On the humanitarian angle, unless you suggested placing them in communities that were just attacked, this is mostly arid, semi-desert areas - not too much by way of facilities, and no protection from Hamas rockets. As for Netanyahu's alleged words - you did not provide any reference, so hard to tell what you're on about. That aside, taking what he says seriously is a choice. The man will say pretty much anything that serves his immediate purposes. With regard to battle zone designations - you give a very decisive response, which is not backed by anything much. Given that warnings to evacuate were issued for weeks, and that (as you pointed out) Hamas doesn't always wear uniforms, I think you're not on solid ground with that assertion. What bias? The one that's glaringly obvious from your lengthy tirades. Making the cursory, obvious acknowledgement regarding Hamas doesn't cover help covering it much. The bulk of your fiery condemnation is directed at one side only. As for what you would have done in their shoes? I don't know for sure, I hope nothing like what took place on 7/10 - then again, I'll venture that you would have probably just contend yourself with posting yet another long tirade somewhere. Regarding Israel's treatment of the Palestinians, we are not in disagreement, especially when it comes to the West Bank. That said, does it justify the 7/10 attack? I doubt it. The Palestinians are world class masters in making bad choices: rejectionism, terrorism, and all the rest led them nowhere. Instead of cutting their losses and building from there, they largely persist chasing an unlikely dream. The bomb/casualty ratio thing - you continue to claim 'experience', but it's not clear what that 'experience' is, how does it apply and how does it actually negate what I posted. Same goes for alleging hyped 'military experts' - these are a dime a dozen when it comes to news analysis of this conflict, guess enough variety to suit all tastes and views. The attack is not a 'recent escalation' in the sense you claim. It was long in the planning, there was a long phase of training. There was already much discussion as to the timing with some of the more prominent assertions being the developments on the KSR-Israel relations, posturing for the post-Abbas era, and leadership struggles within Hamas. I don't know that there will actually be much diplomatic developments post-war, although that would be nice. Given past instances, the people involved and their positions - I'm rather pessimistic. Netanyahu may or may not be ousted (his days being numbered before 7/10 is something you claim, not sure why), I rather think he'll cling to power rather than go for a new elections - which might leave him 3 years as PM. On the Palestinian side as well, most of the old faces are set to remain. There are many posts on here, over the years, in which I covered the leadership crisis on both sides - and how it effects the stalemate. Seidemann's comments are nothing new. There are a whole lot such plans, figures, and whatnot regarding how this could be achieved. That's not the issue. The problem is the lack of will, by both sides, to come to an agreement - with all that it entails. A new generation of terrorists ? That would have happened anyway, given the ongoing conflict and Hamas educational programs. So no, that's not a very important point, IMO. It's not like they would have turned out to be peace activists or anything, regardless of the war. Given my (unflattering) analysis and views of Amnesty's take on many posts, both on recent topics and past - you may look them up if you're interested.

Yeah. Other units in the area were briefed, this one was not. There's more.... IDF dog recorded escaped hostage yelling for help before erroneous slayings — probe https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/idf-dog-recorded-escaped-hostage-yelling-for-help-before-erroneous-slayings-probe/

Now who is looking more evil? Can I be it?! Pleasepleasepleasepleaseplease!

They also gave full details on the soldier shooting the last one disobeying an order. And details regard briefing on this the day prior (which said unit/soldiers did not get). To be clear, the area is designated a battle zone - this is north Gaza.

Happens to us now and then, Mrs. Morch in the habit of taking her time before heading for the car to examine the bill. Never takes advantage. Me - most chances same, especially if there were no issues with the service/product. My thinking is that I can afford it, and the cashier might get punished, fined, scolded or whatever.

Wonder what Mrs. Police Captain and Mrs. Border Patrol Police had to say about it.

What 'denial'? Making things up again? I didn't 'suggest' anything, I've asked you to clarify what you meant - which you failed to do. And really? Nobody suggested? Your words. I'm asking you to be clear regarding terms you toss about. You seem unable or unwilling to do so.