Pattaya46

56 minutes ago, Stargrazer9889 said:

I have to ask. Do most domestic tourists stay in the 5 star hotels and go shopping

like foreign tourists? Do most local tourists go to the fancy restaurants? I doubt that most

No easy answer.

In Pattaya there are Thai tourists staying in the Hilton or their own condo, and buying in luxury shops from Terminal 21 or Central Festival...

and there are pickups with the whole family in the back who park near a beach and sleep in their pickup and on the beach before leaving the next day...

No idea on the ration between these 2 categories.

5 hours ago, HashBrownHarry said:

The people that have not worked for 3 months seemed to have plenty of money to come out on the Holiday weekend just passed or did you miss that?

1- a weekend at the beach doesn't cost a lot. Just petrol for the pickup.

2- only a minority of people didn't work last 2-3 months. The majority did work (yes!) and so has easily money enough for a weekend.

7 hours ago, stevenl said:

Of course many youngsters voted brexit. But the vast majority of the youth voted remain, as the stats show. "Nearly three quarters (73%) of 18 to 24 year-olds voted to remain" //

There will be more-and-more young people mostly wanting back privileged they had with EU, and less-and-less older retirees mostly wanting leaving EU... So I wonder how many years before another referendum will be demanded by a majority 

8 hours ago, stouricks said:

Made of copper.... it'll be bright green soon. //

Your are right. Color will change as it did for the Liberty Statue, but it will take time.

The Liberty Statue had a dull brown color when in Paris, and when delivered to USA.

It took about 30 years to turn the color to its actual greenish color.

IMHO what is important in this "Beijing market outbreak" is not the fact that a new cluster can happen (we all know that it can and will happen in most countries!) but the way that China responded to it: quickly and strongly.

When i see how most the population of my country (France) seems to have forgot in just a few days everything about the virus and the Covid guidance rules, I am a lot of more worried on how my country would react in a similar case and about statistics coming in next weeks... ????

9 minutes ago, smedly said:

// Parts of China now in lockdown

Yes, about 0.01% of China...

41 minutes ago, mommysboy said:

// but the latest outbreak above [China] shows why avoiding herd immunity probably won't work long term.

Hum... Until now they are just talking about one cluster

and 45 persons tested positive, on a population of 1.4 billion...

56 minutes ago, johng said:

3 hours ago, skorp13 said:

Are foreigners allowed in ?? Just have to ask ????

5 hours ago, rooster59 said:

entry will be free for Thai and foreign tourists until June 30.

 

What about foreigners who are not tourists?  ... 

On 6/12/2020 at 11:14 AM, Leaver said:

These stats are due to the lock down.

Imagine what they would be without lock down.

That's the big problem here, as nobody knows...

and many people think that without lockdown the stats would have been (nearly) the same.

We will never know ????

10 hours ago, bmanly said:

If the farang has no Thai family and no one in his home country cares nor wants the body and no one local cares enough either then someone mentioned that the Thai Government authorises a Temple Cremation. So who pays for that? It still costs money.

I remember reading that some temples have a "service" to take care of cremation for poor people who can't pay for it. I also remember reading at least once that a farang (a beggar) who died without money and family get a cremation through this service. I don't know details.

A very basic cremation may cost 20-30'000B "only".

11 hours ago, rob63 said:

_{Songkran isn't the problem. The problem is the foreigners. I have never had a problem with a Thai during the celebrations. I have had plenty of problems with foreigners.}

I bet that you stay in the Beach Road to Soi Buakhao area...

If you went east of 3rd Rd, or worse east of Sukhumvit, you would have certainly had a lot of "Songkran problems" with Thai ... as I did. ????

8 minutes ago, Brunolem said:

// If you compare what the US has spent "because" of the pandemic, with other developed countries, after adjusting for GDP size, the US is an other dimension...

Right, but could be a winning bet if USA economy restarts far faster than others.

On 6/3/2020 at 5:20 AM, fruitman said:

Well here's some pictures of examples...mind you these are cheaper, closer to home and much better than anything in asia so far.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=promenade+italy&iax=images&ia=images

No need to travel so far,

you can find very similar promenade near Pattaya : (SilverLake area)

5 hours ago, stouricks said:

How much time does it take an Immigration man to put a dated stamp in a passport, directly after the last one, so that the person's movements can be easily seen. 5 seconds?

The problem is not where Immigration put the stamp, but the fact that in many countries they don't put any stamp. Take Europe by example where Europeans can travel in all EU country without any stamp.

5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

On 6/8/2020 at 11:08 AM, Pattaya46 said:

How small is the contribution of farangs in all bars of Thailand? 

Even in Pattaya it may not be so big.

Really?

How many farangs go to Pattaya to go to the bars in a normal year? How many hotels depend on farangs going to Pattaya to go to the bars in a normal year? How many bar girls //

Uh? What are you talking about?

My question - and this thread - was just about bars, not hotels, restaurants, girls...

IMHO contribution of farangs in this business (compared to Thai one) is largely overestimated on this forum.

There used to be machines cleaning Bang Saen beach every morning.

Don't they use them anaymore ? 

4 hours ago, noise said:

// The embassies are notified and they will try to fine the NEXT OF KIN.  It is the next of kin rather than just family members who make the arrangements.  In cases where the expat is married to a Thai, the surviving spouse is the next of kin and responsible for making any and all arrangements. //

Good post, but be aware that rules may be a little bit different depending of your country. Good to have a read on your embassy or consulate website IMHO.

1 hour ago, yuyiinthesky said:

Simple stupidity.

What matters is not the passport but where you have been the last 14 days (or longer if you like).

Simple to see in everyones passport.

Not stupidity IMHO. They need to make rules that are easy to understand and check, even if they apply well only to 99% or 90% of the population.

As said above, there are a lot of cases where you can't prove (with only your passport) were you were in the last 2 weeks.

And for those who could prove it, it would often not be that easy and a big stress and lost of time. So you need a rule where people know - before they fly - that they will be autorise to enter. Who want to fly when taking the risk to be refused at arrival?!

Better to have a rule that works for the majority of a country population, than no rule at all and no access at all for people of that country.

5 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Aha. So it was created then, or is that speculation? 

Uh? Maybe it's not the correct word, but I used "create" the same way as in "Nature created life" or "Nature created all species on Earth". Human was not needed for all that. (Human is just one of created species)

3 hours ago, nauseus said:

// The main point that cannot to be ignored is that

China is responsible for the existence and release of this virus //

Speculation! It's totally impossible for anyone to prove that!

Nature doesn't need autorisation of a country to create a new virus.

47 minutes ago, KhunFred said:

Still amazed that the Thai government has not made the obvious connection: "Farangs are valuable to the economy". //

How small is the contribution of farangs in all bars of Thailand? 

Even in Pattaya it may not be so big.

47 minutes ago, KhunFred said:

// "Farangs are valuable to the economy".  This simple fact has been ignored in every single decision they've made in the last two years. //

No idea what you are talking about??

Which decisions against farangs in last 2 years? 

57 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

I think Chantaburi is a province.

Chanthaburi is the name of a province, a district and a city. ????