James9999

What pensioners don't need the state pension to live on?

The mind boggles that the DWP can pay out a mere £50 million to a group that had never set foot in the country. And yet they think they can catch out the odd pensioner for falsely claiming the annual pension increase. The phrase not fit to run a whelk stall comes to mind. Well if they say then can catch out these pensioners then good luck. Given their previous ineptitude I don't think pensions in Thailand have much to worry about.

There were cases a few years back where the DWP were threatening relatives of a deceased person who had been paid the wrong benefits. It was stated at the time that the DWP had no right to recover money from anybody other than the claimant but they could recover from the deceased person's estate, if there was one. That is one way they could get their money assuming the person doesn't die after 6 years.

It beggars belief that the authorities in the UK authorise a housing benefit claim for a person not in the UK. I can't get my head around how it is possible. Shouldn't there be some sort of rent book.

How can you be paid state pension due to fraud. Pension credit may be but how can you fraudulently be paid the pension. And clearly not somebody in Thailand, how would they be getting housing benefit.

Well I don't think it is the claimant who is still doing the "claiming" is it.

Rules can be wrong and should be changed, The rules allowed 72 people to be burned to death in Grenfell Tower. Should the rules about cladding also not be changed. "The Ministry of Housing, Communities and Local Government's best estimate is that the programme to remove dangerous cladding from towers over 11 metres tall will cost an estimated £16.6bn – £5.1bn of that from the taxpayer – and so far only a third of the blocks that have been identified have been completed" So there is another £5.1 billion of taxpayers money p155ed up against the wall. HS2 another black hole that taxpayers money is being p1ssed into. Off topic but just balancing up where the Government is squandering money.

From the UK Government "The Home Office estimates that Serious and organised crime costs the UK at least £24 billion annually. The NCA estimates that the amount of money laundered in the UK could be between £36 billion and £90 billion. Factsheet – The Criminal Finances Bill - GOV.UK" The money launderers must be rubbing their hands now that the focus of attention is going to be pension fraudsters.

Right, where does pension fraud come against the black economy and people paid in cash, unemployment benefit paid to people working, child benefit fraud, banking scams, free handouts and the cost of housing illegal immigrants, the aid budget funding space programmes and corruption. oh and tech companies not paying their fare share. That is what bothers me.

Not bothered about people claiming unemployment benefit and working, builders who demand to be paid in cash, benefit claimants who aren't even in the country, child benefit payments for children not even in the country, Then the biggest scum bag cheats of the lot, the tech companies with their off shore tax havens. No you go after pensioner living overseas and getting the annual increment. Must be all of 0.01% and all the scum bag cheats screwing over the UK. The biggest of sharing the same name as a South American river or Thai retail coffee chain. Websightes, for God's sake learn some English.

I didn't understand the dual nationality bit either. And as for most of these guys in Pattaya didn't pay any NICs. Well they would have any state pension if they made no NICs. To be getting a state pension they must have made NICs.

That can be summed up as crap.

"The full new state pension will increase from £221.20 to £230.25 per week, which is an extra £470 per year." Just think what you can do with the £9.05.

A bit more than £12. Isn't the increase next year around 4% so I make that around £500.

You state anything that I said. And you call me a liar.

Point 1 wrong Point 2 wrong Point 3 wrong Point 4 wrong. Why do you keep coming out crap?

You do come out with some crap.

There you go again. Who says he is living rent free? And even if he was so what. And I never said that I would be struggling either. I have adequate non state provision. I am unclear why you turn everything into a controversy. But I am not sure what any of that has to do with the principle of not allowing increases to some pensioners. £2000 per month rent is I think over the top outside of London. That is if you actually got the rent and not squatter.

Yes it has always been like that. All my working life I have been paying for other people's pensions. And now those people working now are paying for mine as other people will pay for theirs.

Unless I have misunderstood your reply what is the issue? If you paid contributions then you get the state pension. Yes it used to be that be that if you made no contributions that you got no state pension. But by an large short of married women who stayed at home and never worked (being a very pre 60s thing) most people will have made contributions. The requirements have now changed. The minimum contributions for a full state pension was 44 years. I made 52 years worth of contributions yet there are people out there that still begrudge you getting anything. What a wonderful country the UK is.

Charge you Son. Really, your English. If I charged my son rent how much would the HMRC take?

Exactly. Can you imagine a company or private pension company saying you have left the country so you don't get your pension. But you would think that they would want to encourage people to leave not stay. On the plus side not a burden on the NHS. Free up housing. Not use other resources from the UK. Still pay UK tax on your pension. Make living space for an immigrant. Seems encouraging pensioners to leave would be a good idea. In fact it is such a good idea I wonder why the Government doesn't make it mandatory. Send them all to another country, like Rwanda.

Well said.

The list of Lib Dem Ministers in 2010. Liberal Democrat appointments included Danny Alexander as Secretary of State for Scotland, Chris Huhne as Secretary of State for Energy and Climate Change, David Laws as Chief Secretary to the Treasury and Vince Cable became Secretary of State for Business, Innovation & Skills and President of the Board of Trade. Chris Huhne a nice piece or work he was. I don't need to remind you.

Well if you think about its there is no way of knowing how many illegal immigrants there are and anything is based on an estimation. To be honest I thought 745,000 was on the light side. So what if the last link was 10 years old. It was a fact that the Government despite making all sorts of threats and promises was itself employing illegal immigrants. The measures that previous Governments brought in are what was mentioned by the other poster. Fines against employers employing illegal immigrants, but it still goes on. And penalties against land lords who rent rooms or properties to illegal immigrants but it still goes on. The penalties have very little effect.