KhunMorris

16 minutes ago, DFPhuket said:

I'm an American in the US now and have a ticket to arrive in Phuket July 3 on Qatar (which is fully changeable if needed). There is no way that Thai officialdom knows when and if this American is arriving since I haven't/can't apply for a COE. I really wish they wouldn't make up numbers out of the air. 

I assume you don't have any official Vaccine certification?

15 minutes ago, Iamemjay said:

This report is altogether ill-founded. I am in Australia and am planning to arrive in Phuket on July 10. The Thai Embassy doesn't want to know me and in fact won't process my Certificate of Entry until 15 days before my planned date of departure - and they say to NOT book flights until after then.

 

I am told that Consulates in the US are operating under the same rules - so OF COURSE  people have not booked yet, even if they are coming.

 

This has nothing to do with Thai Government unrealistic idealism (although that very well may exist) but rather, journalists not doing their homework.

Why are you travelling to Thailand? What's the attraction. Genuinely curious.

Sincerely 

MORRIS 

I know three people who are interested in this. All are known, established sex tourists and will travel directly to (an empty and dead) Pattaya  after the 7 day restriction. Hardly the quality tourists they desire.

More importantly there is NO international standard for vaccine certification and some countries provide NOTHING. Very easy to forge or fake. 

The whole idea is nonsense.

Sincerely 

MORRIS

Ex Bar Owner, Speaks Laos and Thai

It's been around 2000 cases a day for 50 days. Utter nonsense. Don't believe a word of it.

Sincerely 

MORRIS

Ex Bar Owner, Muay Thai Trained 

More holes than an issan bargirl's knickers. What a load of utter nonsense.

Sincerely 

MORRIS 

Speaks Thai, Former Pilot

More holes that a monger's Singha vest.

*I assume children aren't allowed as they can't get vaccinated?!?

*What about people who require emergency medical, diplomatic or police services on the mainland??

*What's to stop bargirls turning up en masse on boats and spreading Covid?

*What vaccine certification is required? No standards thus far.

Simply won't happen. Please stop publicising this utter nonsense.

Sincerely 

MORRIS 

Ex Bar Owner, Cricket Fan

All depends on the 'type' of tourists as to whether they'll come back.

Western Families with kids - No chance 

Asian flag tour groups - No idea

Backpackers - Definitely 

Sex Tourists - Definitely

Honeymooners - No chance

I'm guessing for the next 2 or 3 years at least you'll get the lowest rung of the ladder in terms of spending. Either backpacking types or the usual Pattaya pond life. 

Just my opinion...

Sincerely 

MORRIS

Ex Bar Owner, Ex Special Forces.

1 hour ago, Guderian said:

It would indeed be amazing if any foreigners actually bothered with this premature foolishness. Thailand is on the UK's amber list at the moment, which means that you must quarantine for 10 days at home on your return, as well as booking and paying in advance for two Covid tests after your return and both the pre-flight tests, of course. If Thailand gets downgraded to a red list country, then you will also have to pay £1,750 for supervised hotel quarantine on your return,, and that downgrade can happen at any moment, even during your holiday. Why would anybody risk all that just for a few weeks on a beach in a place where, even if it's allowed to open again, the nightlife will be a shadow of what it once was.

Finally some common sense.

Sincerely 

MORRIS 

Ex Bar Owner, Speaks Thai, Muay Thai trained 2004

49 minutes ago, JeezeLooeze said:

I also note that both the Chinese vaccines Sinovac (CoronaVac) or Sinopharm (BIBP) are 'traditional' inactivated type vaccines and not the new mRNA gene therapy vaccines that use the as-yet untested viral vector mRNA technology  adopted by Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca or Sputnik V. If I was to ever to get a vaccine I would only get it after this current "experimental" test stage was over and only use the tried and tested Inactivated vaccine type only and not the viral vector mRNA type.

Fake news. AZ isn't a mRNA vaccine.

Delete your post.

Simple reference: https://www.healthcareitnews.com/news/emea/four-types-covid-19-vaccine-snapshot

Fake news, delete your post.

Sincerely 

MORRIS

Owns Ford Car, Ex Bar Owner

Sinovac... basically a placebo. Wouldn't take it if you paid me.

Additionally those ex-pats suggesting or demanding that local embassies supply it's nationals with vaccines are deluded. You come to Thailand for the sun, cheap woman, food, bar girls or whatever. You can't have your cake and eat it.

Sincerely 

MORRIS 

Speaks Thai, Ex Bar Owner

If you live in Thailand and don't know who Chompoo is then you are either stupid or eh, stupid. She's literally everywhere and has been for over a decade. 

Guys, get up from your barstool and take a look at the world outside.

Sincerely 

MORRIS

Ex Bar Owner, Speaks Thai, Muay Thai trained.

Edited to add that I wouldn't touch Sinovac if you paid me.

If the pollution or the traffic doesn't kill them then the Covid probably will.

Amazing Thailand.

Sincerely 

MORRIS

6 hours ago, Brunolem said:

For you, "could we'll be" is hard news, while "valid 6 months" is fake news because? you know better than Pfizer's CEO who said a couple of weeks ago that a booster shot will probably be required after 6 months?

“The good news is that in the 6-month status report from Pfizer, immunity stays very strong, and we anticipate that it will continue to stay strong,” said Bailey.

“These people [in the study] have had the vaccine the longest, and it tells us it lasts at least 6 months,” added Bailey. “But it’s definitely longer than that — it’s not just going to drop off after 6 months. I would have been concerned if efficacy had dropped by a third or half.”

Source:

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/how-long-

does-immunity-from-covid-19-vaccination-last#Protection-lasts-for-at-least-6-months,-likely-longer

At least is the key here. 

Sincerley

MORRIS

5 hours ago, Jeffr2 said:

Why an idiot?  He's a businessman who needs the jab so he can do his job.  And he's going to Dubai for business shortly after he's out of quarantine.  Makes sense especially when he's got no idea when he'll get a jab here.

 

Guam's a lovely place to be.  And when he comes back, maybe the Phuket sandbox will be setup?

He's an idiot because you can get the vaccine in Dubai if you pay for it. Why not combine the two?

Seems he's got another 'agenda' here. Something isn't quite right.

Sincerely

MORRIS

2 hours ago, Brunolem said:

Israel is an outlier rather than a reference.

 

It is very unlikely that the vast majority of countries will repeat Israel's performance.

 

On top of that, remember that, according to the vaccine manufacturers themselves, the vaccines are efficient for only 6 months, meaning that the whole vaccination campaign will have to be repeated indefinitely.

 

Then, there are other issues beside the Covid pandemic, such as fighting climate change and the implementation of the infamous Great Reset, both of which are not in favour of mass tourism.

 

Instead of a return to the happy days of 2019, one should rather expect a lengthy march toward 1984 (not the year, if you see what I mean).

 

 

Some fake news in this post.

Vaccine manufacturers have said AT LEAST 6 months efficacy. The truth is that they don't know as they have  only been testing for 6-7 months. It could well be 1 year, it could well be more. Boosters to combat new variants will be given annually.

Sincerely

MORRIS