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Mark Meadows struggles to distance himself from Trump’s plot August 29, 2023 at 1:04 p.m. EDT The testimony also created some challenges for the prosecution. Raffensperger is supposed to be a key witness for the prosecution. But while the prosecution has charged Meadows with unlawfully pressuring Raffensperger, Raffensperger said of Meadows’s conduct on the call, specifically, “I didn’t think it was inappropriate.” Meadows also pointed to two alleged errors in the indictment. Meadows opted to testify at a time when he doesn’t know precisely what evidence the prosecution has on these fronts. But to the extent the indictment itself contains errors, that would be an inauspicious sign for the prosecution, at the least. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/08/29/mark-meadows-struggles-distance-himself-trumps-plot/ https://archive.is/1QZ4Z

Thank you . And there is a Conservative establishment who see Trump as a convenient even if boorish vessel and has been engineering plans to overhaul the "Deep State" Government since Reagan. And Trump would have likely implemented Schedule F overhaul of the federal labor force if he had time. AUGUST 2, 2022 In recent weeks, former White House aides from the Trump administration unveiled plans to immediately reinstitute Schedule F the next time a Republican is president. Schedule F was an ill-fated plan to find and reclassify the positions of tens of thousands of career federal workers in “policy-related” roles outside of the competitive service, stripping them of their civil service protections and making it much easier to hire and fire them. Trump, who is mulling another campaign for president, seemingly endorsed the plan in a speech last week. https://www.govexec.com/workforce/2022/08/senate-dems-join-push-block-schedule-f/375221/ Which is Partly why I say I am much more anxious NOT to see Trump again as President than I am the outcome of any of these criminal trials.

To quote Clark Gable as Rhett Butler: Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn

No I've been on this topic since about 6 AM this morn with your fellow tag team members an I am tired.

Beats me, Mr. Interrogatory

This is from the link I posted above early this morning which prompted the tag team so I will just leave at this: But to convict Trump, the prosecutors will have to show all 31 documents to the jury, making them public and available to anyone — including our foreign enemies. Moreover, my experience in Espionage Act cases has shown that the prosecution often has to disclose additional classified information to explain why the retained documents were potentially damaging. The government will have to reveal vastly more classified information than if it decided not to proceed with the case. And that does not include the additional classified documents the defense will claim it needs to show to make its case. https://archive.is/UJhXJ#selection-1237.0-1237.599

CNN first reported last week that prosecutors had obtained the audio recording of Trump’s 2021 meeting at his Bedminster, New Jersey, resort, with two people working on the autobiography of Trump’s former chief of staff Mark Meadows as well as aides employed by the former president, including communications specialist Margo Martin. The transcript of the audio recording suggests that Trump is showing the document he’s discussing to those in the room. Several sources have told CNN the recording captures the sound of paper rustling, as if Trump was waving the document around, though is not clear if it was the actual Iran document. https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/09/politics/trump-tape-didnt-declassify-secret-information/index.html

Probably not but I ran into the Patriot Act buzz saw a few years ago and I do not intend to have it happen again ... and the questions they asked were more than I care to answer if not necessary.

In Florida, they allow you to register even if you no longer live at your last registered address which was the home of my late Mother. To so register you are asked about your intentions to re-patriate at some time or never and that becomes public record which might put my financial accounts in jeopardy if they ever saw that I truthfully never intend to relocate to Florida. ... or else I lie.

I also hope the (as you said) never gets to be President again and, to me, that is paramount to the disposition of any of these criminal trials.

I have voted in every US Presidential election since 1972. I cannot register again to vote in 2024 due to Patriot Act concerns so Trump if the nominee gets a free ride from me.

Because I am amused that at times I am referred to as a Trump sympathizer when I cast 2 votes against him by persons who didn't.

Well OK it was not explained why people who said they didn't know what Trump showed them now know what Trump showed them.

Yes Count 32 refers to an undated month-day-year document. So I guess those in the meetings musta changed their story.

And you are certain that's what happened in the Bedminster incident or are you suggesting there are others? "On the recording, according to two people familiar with its contents, Mr. Trump can be heard flipping through papers as he talks to a publisher and writer working on a book by his final White House chief of staff, Mark Meadows. Mr. Trump and the people in the meeting do not explicitly say what document the former president is holding." https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/19/us/politics/trump-classified-document-fox-news.html

Whether the original charges are frivolous or not, they were properly executed by a grand jury. The results of the trial can be challenged if there was one or more constitutional rights denied. And the jury instructions in a federal conspiracy case can be quite complex and can be challenged if not properly met by the jury.

So in a nutshell: The appeal cannot be for frivolous reasons.

Federal law allows bail pending appeal for certain convictions if the judge is clearly convinced the defendant won't flee or harm someone and the appeal has a good chance of being successful. (18 U.S.C. § 3143.) https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/can-i-bail-while-i-appeal-conviction.html and from that statute: (B) that the appeal is not for the purpose of delay and raises a substantial question of law or fact likely to result in— (i)reversal, (ii)an order for a new trial, (iii)a sentence that does not include a term of imprisonment, or (iv)a reduced sentence to a term of imprisonment less than the total of the time already served plus the expected duration of the appeal process.

That is attorney Weiss's opinion based upon his experience as a Espionage Act Prosecutor and defense attorney. You don't have to agree with it.

REDUX Opinion Trying Trump under the Espionage Act will be trickier than you think June 21, 2023 at 7:15 a.m. EDT Baruch Weiss, a former federal prosecutor in the U.S. attorney’s office for the Southern District of New York, is a partner at Arnold & Porter and a criminal defense lawyer who handles Espionage Act cases. The charges in the indictment against Donald Trump might seem simple: Trump finished his term as president, became an ordinary citizen, yet retained 31 classified documents that, under the Espionage Act, he should have returned to the government upon demand. He compounded his wrongdoing by lying and obstructing. But as a former federal prosecutor and a defense attorney who has handled Espionage Act cases, I can tell you that prosecutions under that law are tricky. And Trump’s will be extraordinarily so. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/06/21/trump-prosecution-espionage-act-tricky/ https://archive.is/UJhXJ

Flor- ee- DAH

The Standard Statute of Limitations for Federal Crimes In accordance with federal law, the statute of limitations for most non-capital crimes is five years. More specifically, in accordance with 18 USC 3282, the statute states: “Except as otherwise expressly provided by law, no person shall be prosecuted, tried, or punished for any offense, not capital, unless the indictment is found or the information is instituted within five years next after such offense shall have been committed.” https://www.capitalcriminaldefense.com/blog/2022/august/what-is-the-statute-of-limitations-on-federal-crimes/

Then there is this one for perspective -- BTW this was my analysis when the Trump - Raffensberger call transcript first became available. DJT: I've heard that people are saying that 200,000 Martians landed in Georgia and voted illegally. Respnse: Nonsense. DJT: But that's what people are saying. And if only 10% of it is true, then that's 20,000 disqualified votes and that's all we need.

From NY Times: The most striking example is detailed in Act 113 of the indictment, which charges Trump with making a series of false statements to Georgia’s secretary of state, Brad Raffensperger, and his deputies in Trump’s notorious Jan. 2, 2021, telephone call. Most legal commentators, myself included, focused on that call because it contained a not-so-veiled threat against Raffensperger and his counsel. In recorded comments, Trump told them they faced a “big risk” of criminal prosecution because he claimed they knew about election fraud and were taking no action to stop it. Willis’s focus, by contrast, is not on the threats but rather on the lies. And when you read the list of Trump’s purported lies, they are absolutely incredible. His claims aren’t just false; they’re transparently, incandescently stupid. This was not a sophisticated effort to overturn the election. It was a shotgun blast of obvious falsehoods. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/15/opinion/georgia-donald-trump-indictment-case.html

As President, I sure hope not. I voted against him twice. Can't register truthfully again. As far as prison goes, would be no tears shedded from me.