jerrymahoney

There has been one settled case since Jan. 6 that invoked the 14th Amendment. In September, a judge in New Mexico ordered a county commissioner convicted of participating in the Jan. 6 riot removed from office under the 14th Amendment. He was the first public official in more than a century to be barred from serving under a constitutional ban on insurrectionists holding office. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/30/us/politics/trump-14th-amendment.html

Maybe another 3bb hiccup. back on TRUE

Yes -- definitely down Ubon. I am on TRUE now.

That's OK . So I'll take a breather for a while and the 5 -10 members of the tag team will have to find someone else for target practice.

I will back off on fidelities for now. But sometimes it is hard to deal with such obviously mis-informed statements as this page 2 this topic: 22 hours ago, Bkk Brian said: He'll take the 5th as he's done before when faced with facts. He likely won't have to take the 5th. The Prosecution cannot call him as a witness. ********** And to amplify, if the defense were to voluntarily call Trump as a witness, then Trump would not be able to claim 5th amendment upon cross-examination.

Absolutely. I am tired of being questioned on my fidelities by you and others when you already know this. And many of these tag-team comments are getting real personal .

Well good for you. I voted against Trump twice. Who did you vote for?

I voted for Clinton in 2016 when the possibility of Trump being elected was considered a joke. 'Don't want to see that happen again.

But this IS the law in Georgia: 637 F.Supp.3d 1316 United States District Court, N.D. Georgia, Atlanta Division. The State of GEORGIA, Plaintiff, v. Eric A. HEINZE and Kristopher L. Hutchens, Defendants. Footnote 8: “It is well settled that if one claim cognizable under Section 1442 is present, the entire action is removed, regardless of the relationship between the Section 1442 claim and the non-removable claims.” https://www.justsecurity.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Georgia-v-Heinze.pdf

What has that got to do with Hillary Clinton's defeat? Trump underestimation syndrome

Raffensperger was a Prosecution witness under oath in a Federal Court.

Well that settles that, clearly.

I read the docket. That is their position for removal . It is up to the judge to decide on the motion.

This is a just a motion for venue. not the trial .

That may be true. But at some of those charged were government employees at the time of the charges so the question becomes were they performing an official function or was this gross political activity. And, at least according to the Meadows legal argument, it only takes one such acting in official capacity to move that individual's trial to Federal court. This is just a motion for venue. It is not the criminal trial.

Per reading Meadows Motion, no matter how many charges there are, it only takes one decision that Meadows was performing in his official capacity to qualify for removal. And Raffsenperger is quoted as saying: Secretary Raffensperger confirmed Mr. Meadows’s limited role in the call (consistent with audio recording introduced into evidence), noting that Mr. Meadows “was acting on behalf of the President,” Tr. 219:14; making clear that he (Raffsenperger) did not believe Mr. Meadows’s participation or statements on the call were “inappropriate,” Tr. 220:16; and acknowledging that Mr. Meadows did not make any requests to change vote totals, So we'll see.

Yes -- my favorite example of too soon getting your hopes up .

Yes -- if it is not moved to Federal Court where there is no TV allowed.

Fine. But the topic here is: Trump trial in Fulton County will be televised, judge says That is, if it is not moved to Federal Court.

To me, it tends to minimize what a dangerous person this is.

???? ???? If the Trump trial is moved to Federal Court, it will not be televised.

It a a simple don't count your chickens before they hatch.

Yes. If Trump voluntarily took the witness stand in his own defense, he would not be able to plead the 5th and refuse to answer any questions on any cross-examine.

He likely won't have to take the 5th. The Prosecution cannot call him as a witness.

I remember Hillary Clinton's 2016 election celebration party: