jerrymahoney

So this is likely the final message I will receive on my bar-coded envelope sent to a 7162 PO Box at Wilkes-Barre and a -7162 Wilkes-Barre zip code suffix sent via registered mail -- same as last year with no 2nd mailing.

Maybe Dan Quayle was the only former Vice-President Pence knew.

Because he is the same Mike Pence as the Mike Pence in the OP. And the NY Times headline for the article on the same Indiana State Fair interview is: Pence Says Trump Pushed Him ‘Essentially to Overturn the Election’ The remarks are some of the former vice president’s most pointed about what happened in the lead up to Jan. 6, 2021.

No. In Court he would just offer his testimony under direct and cross examination. His statement is that, even with such testimony as he might offer, as an attorney, there is no certainty that the government can obtain a conviction against Trump on the current charges.

Pence may be witness #1 against the current 4 charges. If you read some of the comments on here, it is like they are deciding what brand ketchup Trump should be served in prison. Anyone who thinks these criminal charges are slam-dunk material, should care what Pence has said above.

Pence also said in the NY Times version of that Indiana State Fair interview: “I don’t know if the government can meet the standard, the burden of proof beyond reasonable doubt for criminal charges,” he said.

Pleading 'Not Guilty' at an arraignment only means he /she is not going to plead 'Guilty' as charged. Nothing more.

And then, during the (1980 debate with Carter) , Reagan posed what has become one of the most important campaign questions of all time: “Are you better off today than you were four years ago?” https://www.hks.harvard.edu/publications/are-you-better-you-were-4-years-ago There still may be too many disillusioned and deluded persons in 2024 to scare the h. out of me.

Just remember he's a fool who once got himself elected President and, the way things stand right now, it's possible he might do so again. ... and, to me, that's the more frightening prospect than the outcome of any of his legal tangles.

Aug. 3, 2023, 4:32 p.m. ET It’s also no surprise that prosecutors did not require Trump to surrender his passport or attach any other serious condition to his release. The same thing happened in the Florida case. https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/08/03/us/trump-arraignment-news

I like the way she backs into the Mercedes so she doesn't get her hair caught in the door.

Pence Says Trump Pushed Him ‘Essentially to Overturn the Election’ The remarks are some of the former vice president’s most pointed about what happened in the lead up to Jan. 6, 2021. By Maggie Haberman Aug. 3, 2023 “I don’t know if the government can meet the standard, the burden of proof beyond reasonable doubt for criminal charges,” he said. “But the American people deserve to know that President Trump and his advisers didn’t just ask me to pause. They asked me to reject votes, return votes, essentially to overturn the election.” https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/03/us/politics/pence-trump-election-jan-6.html https://archive.is/d14Hg

Not long island bridge. George Washington Bridge, Ft. Lee, New Jersey to upper Manhattan. Closed some entrance ramps due to 'maintenance'.

I was just trying to the comments of Trump attorney Lauro in the NYTimes article which is mostly about debunking the free speech argument. The is a 100 year case history to that 371 statute and anybody who comes on here or elsewhere and says this is a slam dunk jury trial should think again.

Well it seems to me that, to prove a conspiracy under 18USC371, the defendant and at least one other person would have to propven to have known that what they were doing was illegal. That is contained in the 4-part Federal Court jury instructions under that statute as showing " intent to achieve a common goal(s) or objective(s), to commit an offense(s) against the United States;

Trump Election Charges Set Up Clash of Lies Versus Free Speech By Michael S. Schmidt and Maggie Haberman NYTimes Aug. 2, 2023 The experts and defense lawyers who read the indictment against Mr. Trump said that claiming that he was relying on the advice of lawyers was likely to provide Mr. Trump with a stronger defense than if he invoked the First Amendment. In the interview on CBS, Mr. Lauro leaned into that argument, saying that Mr. Trump had a “smoking gun of innocence” in a memo that the conservative legal scholar John Eastman wrote for him. The memo said Mr. Trump could ask Mr. Pence to pause the congressional certification of the election. Mr. Eastman was not a White House lawyer at the time. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/02/us/politics/trump-indictment-lies-vs-free-speech.html https://archive.is/Qr4VC

Then pick a jury who will actually decide what's what.

I use the 65K per month retirement extension. Should that be raised to the hypothetical 100K baht, I would do 1 of 2 things: Switch to a marriage extension or Send periodically a chunk of that 100K back to my US account using DEE Money.

No problem.

From 2016.

Addendum: GOP insiders: Polls don’t capture secret Trump vote 10/28/2016 05:03 AM EDT Those battleground state polls that paint such a grim picture of Donald Trump’s prospects against Hillary Clinton? Most Republican insiders don’t believe they’re accurately capturing Trump’s true level of support. That’s according to the POLITICO Caucus — a panel of activists, strategists and operatives in 11 key battleground states. More than seven-in-10 GOP insiders, 71 percent, say the polls understate Trump’s support because voters don’t want to admit to pollsters that they are backing the controversial Republican nominee. https://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/donald-trump-shy-voters-polls-gop-insiders-230411

As of Jan 2017, Trump was President. 'Guess it was up to him.

So if a pollster asks a Trump supporter or 2020 Trump voter, 'Do you think that the 2020 election was stolen?' do you expect them to say "NO".

That's OK. At least he didn't go on about persons with high self-esteem or low-self-esteem. (Spoiler: He considers himself a person of high self-esteem.)

I will disagree: I don't think his supporters believe he won the election. They don't care. They think the USofA will crumble if Trump is not again President and they don't care what it takes for him to again get there.