Wobblybob

10 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

You may or may not be correct, but I was responding to the comment that "it couldn't have happened to a nicer bloke" - generally that statement really only makes sense if you have knowledge of the person, but Murrel is totally unknown to most people other than as a name.

 

You may also be right about the SNP - I am sure that many people are heartily sick of these ongoing controversies, but nothing the SNP does makes independence less attractive, or make the UK look like anything other than an ongoing disaster for Scotland.

But more Scots wish to remain within the Union, do they not, plus the SNP membership has lost approx 30k - 50k members in the last 18 months have they not. Independence was sold to the Nationalists on one big lie and in the mean time Scotland has failed very badly in education, health and the rest that goes with putting all your eggs in one basket.

Independence is dead. 

21 minutes ago, dingdongrb said:

Do you not see Thais wearing shirts that have vulgarity written on them? I do. I see older women wearing t-shirts with words only a nasty sailor would use. 

 

You ever stop to think that someone might have given him the shirt as a gift? Or maybe it was second-hand and that's all the parents could afford?

Oh dear, I think we're entering the realms of fantasy now. ????

5 minutes ago, dingdongrb said:

My Thai step-son wears a Chelsea shirt a lot as it's his favorite team.....  Do note, he's not British.

Yeah but in all fairness who in their right mind would wear a Russian T shirt if not a Russian. 

Just because Putin has nukes does that mean he should be given impunity to invade any sovereign country he chooses. 

"Dictators can be deterred, they can be crushed - but they can never be appeased." [Margaret Thatcher]. 

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I don't recall saying Ukraine was escalating the war, but the west certainly is by giving ever more advanced weapons to Ukraine to use which in turn leads to Russia responding in kind. Putin, IMO, had a point when he commented that the west will fight to the last Ukrainian.

Got it now, it's the west's fault that Russia invaded Ukraine, what a genius, there was me thinking it was Russia's fault that the Russians are killing civilians whilst demolishing hospitals and schools and all the other civilian infrastructure, they have displaced children and adults.

The west are supplying arms to Ukraine to rid the Russians from Ukraine, and I emphasize that these weapons are to stop Russia wiping Ukraine from the face of the earth complete with its people, why you find this concept difficult to understand is just beggars belief. Ukraine is not attacking Russia, Russia is attacking Ukraine!

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

 

If they were bigger and stronger and better armed than I, certainly I'd be scared to do anything to stop them. Wouldn't you be?

Lets put it this way if these people were abusing my wife and children I would do everything in my power to get these thugs out, just as Ukraine is doing and I find your reply very disturbing!

5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I'm not trying to point the finger at either side with that post. It's a simple fact that escalation is likely in any armed conflict between powerful nations that are in stalemate.

There is only one nation that you should be pointing the finger at, and that would be the terrorist genocidal nation of Russia. How can Ukraine "escalate" something it didn't start, this illegal invasion was started by the homicidal madman in the Kremlin and it would be extremely difficult to escalate this brutal attack by the Russians anymore than what the crimes they have already already committed. There is only one side that can put an end to this war, and that would be Russia. If Russia withdraws there will be peace, if the Ukrainians stop fighting they will lose their country and freedoms whilst suffering under serfdom to the Russians, it would seem that Russia has more choices than Ukraine. 

If someone broke into your house would you be scared to do everything possible to remove them or would you just say, 'well I don' t want to escalate the situation, they can stay". 

96% of Scotland's population identifies as white which makes Humzas speech rather disturbing, has he a problem with white people? 

19 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

LOL, not much "realistic" in there. Even if Russia gave up and left, it's not as though they are going to pay reparations, or for Putin to hand himself in to the ICC.

 

I caught a bit of Putin's translated speech on Al Jazeera, and I had to agree with the part about how "the west will fight to the last Ukrainian".

There is more than one way to skin a cat, this is the reason that Russia must be crushed is so they cannot ever think of invading anybody elses country, and with that will come a Russian withdrawal and there will be a requisite for reparations in Ukraine, if this is not agreed the sanctions will not be lifted until they pay, they still have the resources remember. The west has access to a lot of Russian money, there is no reason why that cannot be used too, where theres a will theres a way.

As for Putin standing trial, I am not sure if he will live that long to stand trial, there will be many of his Kremlin friends ready to dispose of this homicidal despot and even his own citizens might wake up and smell the coffee. But whatever I believe that Putin is a dead man walking. 

I wouldn't take much notice of propaganda tropes like "the west will fight to the last Ukrainian," like it or not the west is supplying the arms and the means for the Ukrainians to defend themselves, only now has the West upped the ante and started giving Ukraine the weapons it needs to repel these illegal invaders. Remember who invaded who, Russia is fighting to conquer Ukraine and Ukraine is fighting to survive, if Russia stops fighting the war will be over, if Ukraine stops fighting they lose their country and many of their lives, they have no intention of being a colony of Russia and why should they.

The UK creates just 2% of greenhouse gasses so whatever we do will not make any difference, the biggest polluters are Asia (China and India) and most of these people are very poor and need to do work just to survive. So if anybody thinks these people will give up their work and starve just because it will make these people that glue themselves to the M25 or the people that feel the need to throw tomato soup at priceless paintings feel better, I would seriously have a rethink, it is not going to happen.

Ukraines peace plan is much more realistic, give back all the occupied land including Crimea to Ukraine, pay reparations for all the destruction the Russians have caused, sadly nothing will bring back the murdered Ukrainians. And bring all the Russian perpetrators to account that were involved in this illegal war!

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56 minutes ago, Andrew65 said:

I think Putin/Russia feel threatened by NATO expansion. What's NATO's answer to that? Let's make NATO even bigger.

Countries join NATO because they are scared of Russia, Ukraine was never going to be allowed to join NATO, now there is a chance, Sweden and Finland had no intention of joining NATO until Russia invaded Ukraine, Putin is the best salesman NATO ever had. 

But this war was never about NATO it was about Putins fantasy of expansionism.