ebice

2 minutes ago, earthscar said:

"with" and "sarcasm

I don't quite understand you.

6 minutes ago, robblok said:

 Like i said others see through you too. You think your so smart but everyone sees through you.

see above.

1 minute ago, robblok said:

 Like i said others see through you too. You think your so smart but everyone sees through you.

I am smart enough to know when something is right, wrong, true or false. The problem here is you are not smart enough to know the difference and in the face of adversity keep attempting to paint me as a liar, spreader of misinformation but you have failed, consistently and keep losing and failing and flailing as well, and you have trouble dealing with it. Time to grow a pair Holland.

1 minute ago, earthscar said:

indeviduals spouting inaccurate information

What inaccurate information are you referring to?

1 minute ago, robblok said:

antivax idiots would spread too much lies

Lies you say, prove it, prove I have lied. You can't, and it infuriates you,  and now you need a bigger shovel soon, maybe a hydraulic excavator for your deepening hole.

Also, where does it say I am an anti-vaxer or I am against vaccines? Show me that.

Because I deal with reality and you bumble along in your alternate reality, you need to falsely accuse, use insults, get uptight, etc....oh yeah baby, u are a book, with huge FONT.

Hook, line & sinker.

10 minutes ago, robblok said:

No need everyone with half a brain knows what your doing. I am not digging a hole at all you are. Only those with limited brainpower don't see through your strategy. 

 

What your doing is akin to those police brutality vids you sometimes see in the Netherlands. They show a cop getting violent with someone (not a good thing and not that common in my country) but they neglect to show the part where they for instance spit in the face of the cop. By omitting data you can make things look in a certain way while the reality is totally different.

 

That is exactly what your doing and a typical antivax strategy. Thankfully the more inteligent posters on this forum who happen to be also mainly pro vaccination (wonder about the correlation there) see right through it.

 

So im not digging and those who don't see through your strategy i don't mind if they think im wrong as i don't need validation by dumb people. I feel far more validated in my posts if i get a like from someone who has proven to be able to make good arguments find data to support it and make a good case. I don't mind being looked down on by those that can't look through your deception because basically they are not bright.

So you get all cranked up, go on a rage if people don't share your interests, or beliefs and they are of "limited brainpower", etc. BUT for some reason you keep trying to chop them down, first by saying they are "wrong" but you can't prove it, only to get more wound up which is very telling to me. Read u like a book. Relax Holland, look elsewhere to vent your frustration.

5 minutes ago, robblok said:

You linked vaccination to increased death rate in Singapore with your cold hard data.

 

You showed higher deaths and higher vaccination. Without mentioning that the large majority of deaths were unvaccinated.

 

If you had added that it would have shown that SG is an example for vaccination. Not a case against it like you made it appear with your data.

 

By putting data down in a certain way you misrepresent stuff, that is a typical antivax strategy.

 

Just admit that SG data shows that those vaccinated have a 8 times better survival rate from covid then those who have not in SG.

 

That is all.

Oh, so nothing wrong in what I posted??

"Just admit that SG data shows that those vaccinated have a 8 times better survival rate from covid then those who have not in SG."

Feel free to add this data, or anything else you like, but unless you can't prove I am wrong on ANYTHING, what to do? I can't help you anymore. I'll leave it with you to dig a deeper hole.

3 minutes ago, robblok said:

So will you admit now you were wrong on Singapore

Ok, if you can show what exactly I got wrong, I will indulge you.

54 minutes ago, robblok said:

20% unvaccinated idiots account

So, unvaccinated people are idiots?, does that include 31% of the unvaxxed Dutch?

5 minutes ago, ebice said:

Yeah,<400 covid deaths in 20 months is reassuring to me that covid is not as deadly as I initially thought. Hopefully it stays that way.

Ah, I do not mean "stay that way" , my message is that hopefully it does not get worse, and can improve!

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Here you go again telling half truths. 

 

You neglect to mention that the virus was spreading throughout 2020 and that the early part of that year infections were relatively low, you omit to mention the impact of lockdowns and isolations throughout 2020 and you definitely omit to mention the advent of the far more infectious Delta Variant. 

 

You do however insist on telling us 'No spin. no bias, no one-sided view, just data, hard cold data'.

 

Away with you and your spin, bias, one-sided view and misrepresentation of the data. 

 

The Data from Singapore demonstrates the effectiveness of the vaccines against serious illness, hospitalisations and death.

 

 

 

Yeah,<400 covid deaths in 20 months is reassuring to me that covid is not as deadly as I initially thought. Hopefully it stays that way.

3 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

oh look, a chart which shows the country with the world's highest vaccine skepticism also has the greatest infection rate. I'm shocked

It shows Singapore covid deaths in 2020, as requested.

Stop gaslighting.

1 minute ago, Jeffr2 said:

Data without background info is dangerous, and can be very misleading.  I use to do stats for a living.  Easy to lie and cheat with just stats.

I don't lie or have a need to lie, and just tell me how I can cheat with simple charts and graphs presented here thus far. It's one thing if the data I have presented here is suspect, but I cannot attest to that nor can you.

Just now, Danderman123 said:

The epidemic in Singapore will soon subside, due to the high level of vaccination. Report back in a month, and you will have to find a new example, just like anti-vaxxers cycled through Chile and Israel.

 

it takes more than a few weeks for vaccination to stop a surge in new cases.

 

You clearly don’t know much about infectious diseases.

Actually, I do not know much about infectious diseases, but I like the data and what it can reveal.

3 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

The vast majority of new cases are among the 6% unvaccinated. 
 

When vaccinated are infected, most are asymptomatic.

 

so, what’s your point?

Ok, can you show me the infection rates for both vaccinated and non vaccinated in Si? I am interested.

Just now, ebice said:

Ah, but, w/o vaccination only 29 deaths compared to >300 deaths with high vaccination rate.

No to underscore death by any cause, but it seems covid death rates pale in comparison to other causes of death in Singapore. About 364 covid death in 20 months, Singapore recorded >21,000 deaths in 2019, lowest cause of death as a percentage is lung disease at 1.4%. Covid (extrapolated) would account for .0153 (1.5%)

2 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

Keep it in perspective.  Without the jabs, the cases and deaths right now would be astronomical.

 

Keep it in perspective.  No spin.  No bias.  No one sided view.  Just data, hard cold data.

Ah, but, w/o vaccination only 29 deaths compared to >300 deaths with high vaccination rate.

1 hour ago, Jeffr2 said:

They'd be in MUCH worse shape

Try and convince me of that with some proof, evidence, etc or you know, like, reality dude....REALITY (not alternate reality, the crystal ball variety).

8 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

has one of the highest per capita COVID testing rates of any country in the world

Go thing they do, as they also have some of the highest covid positive rates. (80% fully vaccinated).

Not sure what vaccine they use, but according to my insiders there, they are big on mRNA. They may want to re-think this.

https://rotf.lol/Sq-covid-rate

https://rotf.lol/sq-7day-test-rate

12 hours ago, redwood1 said:

I thought they promised we only needed to 2 weeks to flatten the curve...

2 weeks turned into 18 months and in Singapore's case now, the curve is flattened, just on the wrong axis despite being 80% fully vaccinated.

for graph in proper orientation showing slope as undefined refer to this link for details of very high c19 infection and vaccination. debunk this!

Link: Our World in Data