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This web site is the USA Social Security Administration FORM APPLICATION signed by Thailand bank branch to verify account identity starting International Direct Deposit to your Thailand bank account. Note the FORM can be edited example change sample to THAILAND and other bank details such as SWIFT etc related money routing data while non related data outside Thailand can be removed from the form. All instructions are on the Form. https://omb.report/icr/202107-0960-005/doc/113470800

Greetings to all you visa agents processing a single country single passport issued farang application Wish to introduce a dual country dual passport citizen of two countries farang visa application problem Ok one passport Immigration temporary rubber stamp visa inside one country passport but not inside the other country passport. Immigration offer one country passport entry paper rubber stamp visa not two and today Immigration is the GOD LAW of rubber stamp passport demanded to identify a bank account So what and why bother with DUAL passport paper rubber stamps? Some lucky people have a pension government issued from their country passport identity direct deposited to their Thailand bank account that was open demanded by Immigration visa rubber stamp just to open the passport identity account What I am talking about is if you do not have a rubber stamp retirement visa all the banks in Pattaya refuse today to open a bank account. You can not even open a ATM DEBIT account that is cash deposit secured insured in all banks! zero theft or loss to a bank! In the past you deposited cash and was given a ATM account number ATM DEBIT card that was charged user fees and maintenance fees and closed if you spent all the cash TODAY all has changed under word of mouth un documented extensions of Immigration bank visa demands The Immigration Visa retirement stamp has been out of control ever since some criminals borrowed money to prove financial responsibility and forged one year retirement stamp. Immigration started to lock up all bank accounts to lock down bank money before and after receiving a retirement stamp renewal. extended out where the bank book update print out is not enough Immigration want 399 Baht letter of proof from the bank attached to bank book print out every year and so locked up your bank cash bank account number deposit.... This is not a bank account issue this is a Immigration visa issue because nobody has educated all the bank branches that a separated isolated cash deposited insured ATM DEBIT card has nothing to do with Immigration rubber stamps policy. There should be no logical reason why only retirement identification stamp can open a bank account. DEBIT ATM is a cash secured deposited ATM service DEBIT card profit, Some farangs with Thai relatives get CREDIT but Farangs do not get CREDIT cards unless they have a pay check backed up sponsor or a business or a collateral every farang is treated as an expired DEBIT ATM card with available bank cash secured account No threat to Thai banks and nothing to do with Immigration unless you are one farang who locks up 800,000 Baht secured 3 months before and three months after Immigration rubber stamp inside your ATM DEBIT card? . DO NOT MOVE TO BANKING because in order to open a RETIREMENT Immigration bank account 3 months before and 3 months after the retirement TM7 visa rubber application you must have a rubber stamp in your passport. The word of mouth rumors was twisted by Thailand bank branches no rubber stamp no bank acount So can you Immigration visa experts re educate and inform and instruct Thailand Immigration to stop spreading non documented non legal laws to open a cash deposited cash secured DEBIT ATM bank account for use traveling and buying Thailand business services using a ATM DEBIT card no loss to any bank charging fees to service an ATM DEBIT card. ATM DEBIT cash tool travel card has nothing to do with Immigration rubber stamps an d should allow a dual passport citizen to receive retirement pension every month from a ATM DEBIT bank account opened with a second other country passport having no rubber stamp. Why the hell not both passports describe identical bio metric integrated circuit facial date of birth place of birth etc data but only one has a rubber retirement stamp so the Thai banks refuse to open a bank account having no visa on same human identity Digest all this before jumping around it is an isolated problem and up to the visa experts to educate massage the word of mouth under educated legal minds of Thailand bank branches following non documented word of mouth rumors spread from distorted false never regulated loose evidence rumors The bottom line to all this rambling is there a visa agent expert who can verify a second passport of a dual citizen with two passport so that the passport with no rubber visa stamp can open a ATM DEBIT bank account?

you mentioned that you cannot get access to your mySSA account because they insist on using a US phone number to verify your identity. After entering my login information I am given 3 options to verify. A phone #, an email address and a reset option Hello and thank you for your support update... Please understand I have relocated to Thailand 2006 and became eligible 2016 that was SIX years ago when the USA Embassy was very help full and assisted USA citizens with open arms regarding and even supplying FORMS for SSA.GOV benefits application. I do not and have not worked for SSA.GOV and I had no idea ALL DOCUMENTS ALL APPLICATIONS WAS ALWAYS INTERCEPTED BY ?? FBU MANILA and was not direct mailed to agents at SSA.GOV International Central Operations. After waiting and waiting and receiving several confirmations from the USA EMBASSY that the Embassy has mailed applications several time as requested even direct to Baltimore Maryland I followed up using EMS return signature mail delivered to Baltimore Maryland! Guess what Baltimore never replied FBU Manila never replied... I can only assume as did the USA Embassy staff sending mail several times that the USA International SSA Operations is a a gross negligent out of control zero managed zero supervised pyramid management. Please make sure you understand my application history started after qualifying to SSA.GOV benefits and therefore I had no idea SSA.GOV started a internet MYSSAaccount login operation. The SSA INTERNET FIRST TIME INTERNET LOGIN AND ACCOUNT ACTIVATION demands a USA phone number a USA bank account card a USA address as you step by step follow the internet application from OUTSIDE THE USA it shall be blocked... I assume after YOU ACTIVATE YOUR SSA INTERNET MYACCOUNT first inside the USA and pass all the security questions and receive verified coded message you can leave the USA and you caN PROBABLY ACCESS using your validated GOOGLE certified email address with perhaps a VPN to hide your outside the USA location... I can only assume and believe you can open and examine your SSA INTERNET account from Thailand... MOVING BACK TO THAILAND INTERNATIONAL DIRECT DEPOSIT (I D D) application are we clear that FBU Manila made arrangements middle of year 2019 that your IDD application does not require in person to person face to face SSA money delivery only at the bank window... Are we clear that SSA money delivered to IDD application offers a BANK DEBIT card that you can travel and use at any location as a VISA or MASTERCARD debit card! There are abouts 7000 USA citizens receiving RESTRICTED PICKUP FACE TO FACE AT BANK WINDOW USING A RESTRICTED BANK ACCOUNT.... Abouts 0nly 600 USA SSA retired in Thailand HAVE THE IDD BANk ACCOUNT because FBU MANILA made arrangement 2019 2020... CALL YOUR DD bank talk about SWIFT IDD SSA.GOV benefit payments... RETURNING BACK to your MY SSA ACCOUNT able to use email in Thailand to login as you explained it has limited use because of return response from SSA.GOV management over your "secured" login account... What every body has a hard time understanding is the lost connections and enormous time out dead access to SSA.GOV INTERNATIONAL.... A decent workable solution would be to force FBU MANILA to put online a INTERNET SERVER dedicated to SOCIAL SECURITY accounts less than 7000 USA SSA citizens in Thailand probably even less after the 2019 COVID visa passport hysteria... After 2019 FBU MANILA answer the phone one hour a week and play recorded messages we are busy servicing 50 million people every day every minute as the International SSA.GOV paid FBU MANILA in charge of less than 7000 USA retired SSA.GOV citizens... Come on all you readers get out there and investigate search the facts look for solutions help USA citizens understand the facts nothing but the facts to enjoy life in sunny affordable Thailand..... LOOK HERE COMPARE what is going on today in California compared to affordable no hassle retirement life in Thailand

My preference was file SWIFT I D D deposit ignore the New York ACH rerouted D D deposit. routing so I can travel and use a Thailand debit card any location any store any purchase You located in Florida can walk into SSA office and it would help every body already retired in Thailand to get the facts only the facts from you should you be willing to get the forms and get answers to the pro and con of IDD vs DD / SWIFT vs ACH approved by FBU Manila 2019

Hello and thanks for your update... It is no problem to call SSA.GOV USA 1+8007721213.. etc and listen to the recorded messages and music, wait an hour before an agent answers... It is no problem after verification to ask for help solving problem. Where it becomes a disgusting problem is the agents, male or female, reply "I am sorry i can not help you with International problems, talk to FBU or talk to Embassy..." Been there and done that going beyond ask to talk 800 supervisor / office manager... Wait hours on hold and agents respond sorry no supervisor answered, very sorry I can not help you... I was able to get only one agent over ten years who declared he was a supervisor and then sent me one email scheduled phone interview to process benefit applications I started 2016 at and by the USA Embassy. Applications repeated 2017 / 2018 but was told 2018 USA Embassy no longer help with SSA must contact FBU Manila direct. The USA Embassy can verify original forms demanded as documents and can mail documents to SSA Manila, asked them to mail copies direct to SSA International Operations PO Box Baltimore... The Embassy did two times and issued registered diplomatic postal delivery numbers, nothing happened waited and waited the Embassy sent me mail we did deliver two envelopes to Baltimore and FBU Manila you must contact them direct... Nothing happen over 10 years until recently I was able to 800 phone a single SSA manager, who setup phone interview SIX YEARS BENEFITS LATE... Last Year letter from Baltimore Central Operations ; was qualified, shall receive payments going back only 4 months? starting from the date SSA 800 manager help to setup phone interview... 4 months benefits paid out of 72 months lost payment is better than nothing... Requested FORM SSA561-U2 sorry can not help call USA Embassy sorry can not help contact FBU Manila... sent mail to FBU Manila NOTHING HAPPEN Now 3 months ago received NEW letter from Baltimore Central Operations we must stop your payments because Bangkok Bank returned the direct deposit ?... The Bangkok Bank Manager tried to contact SSA for 90 days ! Also I called 800 number and verified account number SWIFT code several times ! Including sent letter to FBU Manila, and guess what ? NOTHING HAPPEN, Manila dead silent USA SSA please contact FBU ... My Bangkok application was filed by the bank manager using SWIFT code all verified several times to receive SSA deposit I D D at a verified Bangkok Bank account submitted by the bank manager on their FORM OMB No 0960-0686 last year... Out of 7,779 USA retired in Thailand SSA.GOV only 633 are signed up for I D D rogram.... 7,102 receive payment to a US bank via A C H using the Bangkok Bank NY routing number considered a US bank with ACH routing number. 44 folks still receive paper check. The I D D SWIFT payment goes to a Bangkok Bank regular savings account with debit card, full Ibanking mobile capability, no requirement to physically show-up each and every bank withdrawal, I D D SWIFT depend on managers from other Thailand banks can be filed at SSA.GOV declared by FBU Manila mid year 2019 SSA.GOV agreements... Search it... Receiving D D ACH payment at Bangkok Bank requires opening special New York direct deposit savings account restriction, no debit cards, all payments must be withdrawn in person with passport ID, only Bangkok Bank can receive ACH payments. Where applications get complicated Bangkok Bank has two SWIFT codes for I D D bave no clear explanation (BKKBTHBKXXX and BKKBTHBKBT) routing codes and one USA New York ACH ABA routing code My preference was file SWIFT I D D deposit ignore the New York ACH rerouted D D deposit. routing so I can travel and use a Thailand debit card any location any store any purchase Bangkok Bank manager explained ACH is no longer necessary can use SWIFT made by the agreements arranged 2019 by the FBU Manila... It is not intended to make me feel better rambling on this forum. It is and was intended to inform perhaps help others with USA SSA.GOV benefits direct deposited to Thailand or as citizens to apply to SSA inside the USA before relocating to sunny affordable no hassle Thailand...

To whom it is a Operations Management Concern Please understand I have great respect for the majority of hard working USA staffed SSA.GOV workers. The trouble is a hand full of isolated, untrained, brain dead, Social Security International Operations Managers. Social Security International Operations is isolated under zero supervision and zero motivated aid to customer service, zero problem solution generated silent ignorance, total waste of taxpayer money. I am not alone as for reporting the discusting failure of Government fiduciary duties, out of control at the SSA.GOV Filipino Manila FBU office neglecting, ignoring Social Security Administration International customers. I am not receiving SSA.GOV benefits, received zero assistance from brain dead employees Robert Jocson, Christina Cuevaz, Iveez Gomez, 17 SSA,GOV Filipino paid agents demanding 17 different USA Embassy ORIGINAL DOCUMENTS taking months to be deleted as trash after Embassy staff has mailed SSA forms to FBU Manila agents... FBU division paid by SSA.GOV have no decency to reply by mail, answer phone part time maybe one hour a week. They are useless SSA.GOV wasted taxpayer money collecting pay checks from SSA.GOV International Director who also refuses to answer long distance phone calls and uses recorded message to call 1-800-772-1213.. I have called the number the past 10 years and 9 out of 10 agents replied all we can do is add your information to a file but can not have access to supervised top down managed review of problem resolution. The top of the pyramid is isolated from the bottom of the pyramid and the bottom of the pyramid can not think outside of their sand box are told to start over each and every call... Keep the caller busy runnin g around collecting oriinal documents to be located from inside the jungles of Asia... I was personally told by the MANILA FBU regional officer over the phone that they are saving money and refuse all expenses to help USA citizens over 10 years chasing USA citizen SSA.GOV customer service. SSA.GOV MANILA destroyed my life. I left USA California divorced after Xwife sold my Palm Springs retirement home, the Orange County Superior Court split 1,000,000. Xwife bought new home Santa Margarita California and my share bank deposited. I had several credit cards, checking account, auto paid mobile Verizon, 24 Hour Fitness Center etc etc ALL TOTALLY CREDIT TRASHED because Wells Fargo demanded I send them ORIGINAL SSA CARD before releasing money.... I was in Asia no USA home address left a bank deposit to P.O. Box address traveling to ASIA. I do not work for Social Security and do not work for USA Government but I was forced to run around like a dumb monkey traveling several days to USA Embassy to verify ORIGINAL documents stamped by USA Embassy and then delivered diplomatic registered postal coded mail intercepted by brain dead FBU MANILA staff. Nothing happened so I travel again and waited and waited MANILA FBU remained silent ignored all problem solutions.. Wells Fargo decided to trash my credit destroyed coast to coast USA credit history dumped into unpaid obsolete resold PO Box... I applied for Medicare 2016 at the USA Embassy and 2017 applied again at another USA Embassy for SSA.GOV benefits... Nothing happened!! I spent a fortune traveling to USA Embassy and also sending EMS certified mail packages to Baltimore Operations Center and FBU MANILA !! nothing happened. My problems was never resolved by dead ignored actions including the TOTAL IGNORANCE TO COMMUNICATE with USA citizens outside the USA. The trouble is SSA.GOV pyramid has zero International support Management at Baltimore leaving messages that they are busy servicing 50 million SSA customers, very busy serving outside USA borders! Filipino phone calls cost a fortune and untrained responses was "apply online: get a SSA MYaccount, go online, can not help you"... Phone calls to 800 number in Baltimore agents every week replied there is nothing they can help with only update notice of calls... Two 800 agents did and was able to send me email and arrange a telephone interview after 6 years later! However all the rest replied they can not reach they could not notify supervisors after repeated calls to get a single top down managed review of a Embassy delivered benefits application. Not a word from the Filipino FBU monkeys!!! I was sent a letter from Baltimore Operations that I was approved 6 years late !!! Then I was sent another letter from Baltimore Operations that the money was returned need a address... It has been three months since the Bangkok Bank director has tried to contact SSA.GOV but failed can not reach any SSA.GOV or FBU agent to explain what is the Direct Deposit trouble... The USA Embassy (State Department) declared 2017 they have nothing more to do with SSA.GOV Filipino FBU because they are sick and tired of USA citizens complaining and wasted time over ignored fiduciary duty from Filipino SSA.GOV FBU agents. There is no other way to contact SSA.GOV using Internet because Baltimore Operations block access from outside the USA... The Baltimore online MY SSA ACCOUNT must have a USA phone number for security messages and a USA bank credit card. Wells Fargo BANK TRASHED MY accounts several years ago because I was unable to deliver a SSA REPLACEMENT CARD ordered by the USA EMBASSY prior to 2017. Thailand has many news reported SSA.GOV refusal to help USA citizens. AS I see the trouble is a lack of TOP DOWN MANAGEMENT not available above routine simple problems traiuning to start at the bottom of the pyramid. Evey time USA citizen tries to call SSA.GOV always start at the bottom of the pyramid and forget, hang up the call if it needs advanced recording or management... The trouble is at the top of the pyramid by managers who assume and therefore promote gross negligence to avoid solving international SSA.GOV benefit services to retired USA citizens... Thank you for listening enjoy your days in Thailand