stevemiddie

You should read my posts more accurately.................it is of no interest to me what is happening in the REST of Thailand. It is of interest to me what happens in my school.

As for your comment about the teacher who has left............I know the teacher personally. You are WAY OFF base so please don,t try to imply that he has left because of low morale etc.

He has left for financial reasons........nothing more......nothing less. He has more than doubled his salary and good luck to him.

I find it amazing that you as a 'teacher' would defend another 'teacher' as being a good teacher, when he leaves his post primarily to make more money and in order to manage a Go Go Bar

Call me old fashioned, but I believe a GOOD teacher is one who loves his job, treats it as a vocation NOT a vacation. Its not a sales job where you are trying to make as much money as you can. I am not suggesting that teachers do not get paid, but if you sign a contract then you should honour it.

My son goes to International school in Bangkok. All I would say to anyone putting their kids into school......talk to the headmaster, talk to the teacher who will be teaching your child, and go on your gut feeling.

Believe me there are some very good teachers out there, unfortunately for the OP, they appear to be missing at BEST

Well.............your son goes to an International school. Good for you. You can afford to do that.

He is a good teacher.............no doubt about it but you sit on your high horse and think teachers should accept low wages because they should be committed? We are committed....thats why we teach. Salaries will always be an issue though.

What do you want huh? You don,t like the fact that teachers may leave the profession in order to make more money? Do you actually comprehend what is going on with the teacher shortage in the UK and the USA?

Some teachers here also have families and responsibilities to take care of. That means making a good and decent salary.

You decry a teacher because he wants to leave and make more money? So he can afford a good home? Take care of HIS children and send them to an INTERNATIONAL school like yours?

I agree that teaching is a vocation, but we also have bills to pay and quite frankly your post is without merit and your avatar sums you up to a tee.

Great post rambler thanks.

I am not criticizing the English speaking teachers at BEST school we are ALL complaining about conditions at the school itself.

I commend you on your personal crusade to defend this school but I think you are fighting a loosing battle.

Ok...........point taken.

I will defend the school, sure, when I think that ALL of the school is being attacked. I realise that there are problems of course..................but not always to do with the students in P3, P4, P5 etc.

There are recent events that I cannot defend, nor would I wish too.

I,m in the same boat as many others. We do what we can under circumstances that are less than ideal.

If I offend anyone........it is not intended. I truly believe that as teachers we CAN make a difference but I do agree that there are circumstances at the school which are often disheartening.

I was subjected to an incident today by another farang teacher which, quite frankly, I found embarrassing ( for him )

Threats of violence, punching my lights out etc etc............ Appalling behaviour by someone who should know better.

But what do we do? Quit?

I would worry for my kids that I teach.

other people also know him personally i.e. the OP who asked the guy first hand why he was leaving and clearly state that it was NOT solely for "financial reasons" so PLEASE stop defending this atrocious excuse for a school! Honestly you are really unbelievable and clearly are missing the point here! Ignoring or excusing what is happening at the school you are teaching at is not going to make it any better (in fact in my opinion it makes it worse!)

Financial reasons!! Not to mention punch ups in the staff room, no support from the Thai management of the school, filthy dirty classrooms and toilet facilities, lack of any sports facilities, inferior or none existent teaching materials and books, injured children that sit around in pain and crying in need of medical attention waiting around for hours; the list is endless, how on earth can a teacher be expected to do a good job under these conditions? I am sure it was not just for financial reasons I am sure the poor guy was embarrassed to be working there as any self respecting qualified teacher would be.

Yes EmCross...............FINANCIAL reasons.

I know him personally and he has told me his reasons so please do not make assumptions about an event in which you have no knowledge ( i.e his reasons )

He has MORE THAN doubled his salary. What would you do given the same opportunity?

He is a good teacher and he will be missed but he is looking out for his financial future so good luck to him

We work with him.............we know why he left. He was considering other offers long before the mention of fisticuffs etc. What the OP has been stating and what his work colleagues know are two different matters. Anyway............its by the by now. He has finished and others are finishing soon.

You expect too much from teachers at this school. We have NO influence in the politics of the school. Your complaints should be addressed to the managers......not just this forum.

I think everyone in Pattaya knows how you feel about the school. You repeat it often enough.

Try asking some parents of P3 if they are unhappy.

Not one complaint about P3 in any class I teach.........or with Dave or Graham. And yes...we are NES who actually care.

EmCross..........we have a PTA as I am sure you are aware. Were you a member? Did you put your views across? I think not.

Parent Power is everything. Its you who pay the bills. If you have complaints then perhaps you should be organised and present a coherent argument to the school managers.

I have just spoke to the school ' head ' and he confirmed that the whole of p1 will not have a new teacher for the rest of this term but the classes will be covered by teachers already at the school , i enquired will they be native speakers ? - reply err yes err no err i think phillipine teacher do. Excellent reaction to further piss me off to the point of wanting to rip off the heads head but i refrained. now EMCROSES views are commonly known they also are based on fact i agree entirely wot he or she says so steve middie im sorry to rain on your parade but some of your comments are total crap (not a personal attack but calm reasoned views from rambler) the PTA was and is a joke i was a member, yes we pay the bills and your salary but parents are being conned constantly,to emply you dave and graham dont get complaints is surely defaming the other teachers you work with do they receive complaints from parents are you superior ? im sure you will get some serious earache if they read this. TEACHERS MAY OPEN THE DOOR BUT YOU MUST ENTER YOURSELF is a favourite proverb of mine from wot ive seen recently some i emphasize some have lost the heart (for wotever reason)to open the door hence fed up parents and the real prospect of a mass exodus of foreign staff . You may wish to look closer to home as to who is complaining about you stevemiddie before digging a deeper hole ...... as my old granny used to say (god rest her soul) hear all see all say nothing BUT remember who told you what where and when. rambler.

Mmmmmmmmmmm. No..perhaps how I phrased my response could have been better. I am not stating that I or Dave etc are superior.........I am trying to say that many of the problems people are quoting have not affected P3. We just try to keep our head down and get on with it. That is not to say we are smug so I apologise if thats how it came across.

I did state in post earlier.....................quote " will clarify my post for the benefit of parties that did not understand. I am referring to teachers of P3.............but there are other teachers here just as dedicated " unquote.

I don,t see it as " defaming " teachers at all...............that is just an interpretation I guess. Anyway.....no offense was intended.

I will clarify my post for the benefit of parties that did not understand. I am referring to teachers of P3.............but there are other teachers here just as dedicated.

other people also know him personally i.e. the OP who asked the guy first hand why he was leaving and clearly state that it was NOT solely for "financial reasons" so PLEASE stop defending this atrocious excuse for a school! Honestly you are really unbelievable and clearly are missing the point here! Ignoring or excusing what is happening at the school you are teaching at is not going to make it any better (in fact in my opinion it makes it worse!)

Financial reasons!! Not to mention punch ups in the staff room, no support from the Thai management of the school, filthy dirty classrooms and toilet facilities, lack of any sports facilities, inferior or none existent teaching materials and books, injured children that sit around in pain and crying in need of medical attention waiting around for hours; the list is endless, how on earth can a teacher be expected to do a good job under these conditions? I am sure it was not just for financial reasons I am sure the poor guy was embarrassed to be working there as any self respecting qualified teacher would be.

Yes EmCross...............FINANCIAL reasons.

I know him personally and he has told me his reasons so please do not make assumptions about an event in which you have no knowledge ( i.e his reasons )

He has MORE THAN doubled his salary. What would you do given the same opportunity?

He is a good teacher and he will be missed but he is looking out for his financial future so good luck to him

We work with him.............we know why he left. He was considering other offers long before the mention of fisticuffs etc. What the OP has been stating and what his work colleagues know are two different matters. Anyway............its by the by now. He has finished and others are finishing soon.

You expect too much from teachers at this school. We have NO influence in the politics of the school. Your complaints should be addressed to the managers......not just this forum.

I think everyone in Pattaya knows how you feel about the school. You repeat it often enough.

Try asking some parents of P3 if they are unhappy.

Not one complaint about P3 in any class I teach.........or with Dave or Graham. And yes...we are NES who actually care.

EmCross..........we have a PTA as I am sure you are aware. Were you a member? Did you put your views across? I think not.

Parent Power is everything. Its you who pay the bills. If you have complaints then perhaps you should be organised and present a coherent argument to the school managers.

Financial reasons!! Not to mention punch ups in the staff room, no support from the Thai management of the school, filthy dirty classrooms and toilet facilities, lack of any sports facilities, inferior or none existent teaching materials and books, injured children that sit around in pain and crying in need of medical attention waiting around for hours; the list is endless, how on earth can a teacher be expected to do a good job under these conditions? I am sure it was not just for financial reasons I am sure the poor guy was embarrassed to be working there as any self respecting qualified teacher would be.

Yes EmCross...............FINANCIAL reasons.

I know him personally and he has told me his reasons so please do not make assumptions about an event in which you have no knowledge ( i.e his reasons )

He has MORE THAN doubled his salary. What would you do given the same opportunity?

He is a good teacher and he will be missed but he is looking out for his financial future so good luck to him

And I inform you Steve that there ARE numerous teachers working RIGHT NOW in schools in Chonburi on the basis of FALSE DOCUMENTs - fact not fiction

Well you need to back that up by naming schools or naming teachers.

ANYONE can make comments like that and claim them to be fact.................... personally, I doubt there are NUMEROUS teachers in Chonburi.......................given the hoops we had to jump through just to get our licenses.

Failing that.................you can PM the names of the schools or the teachers

No Steve

I am not on a crusade to name and shame teachers and schools.

The teachers and schools know who they are.

You can,t name because you do not know for a FACT.....as you stated previously. If you KNOW for a fact..then PM me those details. Its easy to check now.

There are lunatics in every city in every country................its not restricted to just Pattaya.

HI GORAN,

PATTAYA ISN'T THE PLACE TO BE FAR FROM IT THERE ARE ALOT FARANG AND THAI BUSINESS MEN WHO RIPP OFF FARANG-YOU MATE AND NOT FORGETTING THE GIRLS WHO WORK BARS OUT TO MAKE MONEY LOOKING TO FARANG.

THIS IS NO PLACE FOR CHILDREN WHERE THERE IS A SEX INDUSTRY,I WOULDN'T LET MY CHILDREN AROUND THEM PLACES!

RAYONG IS BETTER

INTERNATIONAL SCHOOL IS BEST BUT IS EXSPENSIVE.

They might rip you off but some foreigners can speak Thai and have no problems.

And as for ripping off tourists.............not the same in London or NY or any other major destination huh?

And I inform you Steve that there ARE numerous teachers working RIGHT NOW in schools in Chonburi on the basis of FALSE DOCUMENTs - fact not fiction

Well you need to back that up by naming schools or naming teachers.

ANYONE can make comments like that and claim them to be fact.................... personally, I doubt there are NUMEROUS teachers in Chonburi.......................given the hoops we had to jump through just to get our licenses.

Failing that.................you can PM the names of the schools or the teachers

Yes you would have applicants. You also have to bear in mind that YOU will be responsible for providing all the paperwork in order for Work Permit approval. Not an easy task. Or are you considering hiring illegally?

Some times you need to think outside of the box. What I would do is approach small schools that teaches Thai and have them hire the teacher. I would make sure it is a Thai owned school as they would not be required to meet all the regulations a foreign owned school is. I would offer the school a small monthly payment for their services.

I understand what you are saying and you probably could get a school ( Nakhon Nowhere ) to do that for enough money.

However, I doubt any serious, professional teacher would consider that option..........It is just too full of holes should anything go pear-shaped. A Thai school..............employs a foreign teacher at 50-70k? But the teacher never works there.............teaches homeroom stuff in other foreigners houses.....he is, in effect, working for the foreigners yes?

It sounds just way too complex considering the potential pitfalls.

I believe if you were to advertise for a home school teacher in the salary range of 50 to 70 monthly you would have numerous qualified applicants jumping at the opportunity. I believe it also possible if you have a single child to contact other parents that would like to split the cost with you. In essence for a little less than your presently paying you could easily provide your children vastly superior educations. Best of luck with this difficult decision.

Yes you would have applicants. You also have to bear in mind that YOU will be responsible for providing all the paperwork in order for Work Permit approval. Not an easy task. Or are you considering hiring illegally?

To say iam worried and/or concerned about my sons education at this so called place of learning is as of today a mega understatement.

I feel totally let down and peed off as i found out today my sons English teacher has quit the school,no real notice,just walking out.As i have known this fella very well socailly as well as being my sons teacher i was compelled to ask him directly WHY ? ( remember this is an experienced (6yrs) proffessional individual) - His reply : The school is a total joke,the salary a pittance and the atmosphere amongst staff members is at an all time low indeed fisticuffs last Friday between a Thai male member of staff and an English teacher occured this swept under the carpet as is the norm.

Where are you going ? can u home tutor my son ? - His reply: Sorry i am qitting teaching , i ave taken a job as agogo bar manager as the salary and conditions(haha) are much better ! suffice to say it would appear that managing the sale of pussy is obviously more lucrative than a respected teacing proffession (if you work at BEST it is anyway) i thought for a while then responded well who can blame you mate the state the schools in at the mo i understand.

MY POINT IS THIS. In an earlier thread i talked of an exodus of foreign teachers at BEST at the end of term , i was wrong they have started early and many more will follow FACT not HEARSAY wheres this going to leave the students ? As fee paying parents we have paid for foreign native speaking teachers as of today the so called "head" of the school could not tell me who if anyonewill be teaching English to the whole of primary one fron now till the end of term approx 2 months this a very important time with final exams etc.,so not only is the school operating with a weak management team, is dirty and lacks facilities we are noW FACING THE PROSPECT OF some students losing the last bastion of hope ie; native speaking teachers, my son in p1 will not have a N E S TEACHER in any subject this is simply a disgrace and equates to daylight robbery (unusual in Thailand !!) as approx 60-70 % of the term fees are allocated for the bilingual programme taught by N E S Teachers as advertised on all the school buses and brochures. Will any parent get a refund NO thats not the point here the money means nothing the only ones to suffer will be the students - our children who at best will have different uninterested teachers floating in and out the class i know wot goes on many know my history at this school iam happy for all whos offspring are ok at BEST but this has really pissed me off ....

I am now obviously waiting for a defensive reply from stevemiddie amongst others as all the other numerous anti BEST threads have witnessed i already have my reply to them so think before you write and dont give that "axe to grind" crap this is my boys education we are talking about.

Any ideas /suggestions from any parents notably p1 are most welcome .... suffice to say im gonna get my son the hel_l out of the place at the end of this term. He will of course fail all his exams Thai at least (out of spite)becos most know who i am at the school - we will both live.

RAMBLER

Sigh.........................Rambler, you mistake me. I have defended the school against some accusations that were not true or did not apply to P3......the children I teach.

In this situation that you have just described...............I have nothing to defend. Its pretty much correct.

With only 2 months to go before the holidays..........it is highly unlikely that the teacher will be replaced by a native speaker for two reasons.................I doubt anyone will want to sign a 2 month contract and the other is the school will not give a 1 year contract considering they will have to pay 2 months holiday pay to a new and untested teacher. Its just not going to happen.

As for the rest of the comments...............I can,t reply. I have PM,d you my reasons.

Scott - My goal is to start a career in TEFL, I want to teach and see it as a new career and a new start. Am more than happy to take 7/8 years to do a degree.

"If you are married to a person who has a work permit that you can get a non-immigrant visa as well. If you aren't married, then you may have to be a full-time student to get a student visa. If you have a non-immigrant visa under you spouse, you can probably get a teaching job--not exactly legal--but for most people and a lot of places, it's the visa regulations that cause the biggest problem"

Planning on getting married within a month or 2 of arriving in Thailand - she has got her way at last lol... What bearing does this have on me obtaining a visa - am a entitled to a different visa. Sorry if I sound stupid repeating things, so much information taken in over the last month it is falling out of my ears!

Stevemiddie - Yes you are correct, OH has accepted a position at an International School commencing August - any reason why?

Yes.......you may get some better advice on here regarding 2005 events. You are looking at a lot of options for the degree....all of which will cost a fair bit of dosh............but you may still not be eligible for a WP. I would seek advice on this forum.

Surreycouple...................Are you the same guy who has a partner who is taking up a Primary teaching position in August ?

most of the complaints come from older farangs not people who still know how to enjoy themselves. not a dig, its the truth.

I suggest that you engage your brain before posting. To follow your contention to its logical end one might well assume that you still play hopscotch or bowl a hoop. Tastes and pleasureable pasttimes change with the passing of time and the attainment of maturity.

During the mayhem of what used to be a pleasant Thai custom my wife has to wear full raingear to go to work and then change into her uniform when she gets there. It seems to me that even the BiB go into hiding during the Pattaya Songkran week. Dousing anybody in cold,dirty water adds up to assault in my book. It is enjoyed by many who are nothing less than juvenile bullies who enjoy the discomfort of others.

Your perception is not necessarily the truth.

Nor is yours. How old are you btw?

I look forwrd to 'assaulting' you in April

Much older and mature than you sonny - and your father come to that. One of the things that brings me some amusement - and often a measure of disgust - is watching the antics of the younger generation making total asses of themselves while guests in LoS.

I shall be in Petchabun during the 'festivities' avoiding the mayhem and hooligan behaviour. You do know where Petchabun is, don't you? I'll give you a clue. It's nowhere near Beach Road.

Get a life.

I for one am glad I,m not old and decrepit and have the money to live here AND have fun. ..................gramps.

Somebody died, this is terrible, not for him, he is probably in a better place or in no place at all by now, but for the stream of pain and suffering left beyond...

BUT EXCUSE ME, What is this resentement and DISGUST? Send email of DISGUST to thai embassies? This sounds ABSURD...

Why we like to live and/or stay in thailand? (Put a cross where applies)

1 - With the price of an average meal in our country, we can afford a 5 stars day all included

2 - Women are as beautiful as angels

3 - For who is interested, 1000 baht are usually enough for a first class hooker

4 - Spirituality, superstition and beliefs make magic still exist here

5 - Tropical weather

6 - Fantastic nature

7 - First class services at the price of a snack

8 - People are still quite naiv and open heart

You may be interested in just a few of the above but...

ALL OF THESE, SORRY TO SAY SO, IS BECAUSE WE ARE MORE OR LESS IN THE THIRD WORLD (In case you forgot).

It is terrible to hear news of death and pain, but please keep your complaints for european or american institutions. If you enjoy life here, then accept the inevitable. Try to learn something from the buddhist culture around us, otherwise, GO HOME, enjoy political correctness, and pay a meal 1000 baht.

love

Pippo

Oh God. Another one.

If you can stretch to 13,000 then www.tonysapartments.com may be ideal for your needs - best of luck

according to their online quote system, from Jan 30 to March 1 (30 days = 1 month) they want 30,000 bht for a 24 sq mtr shoe box on third road!!!!!!

The system automatically jumps to 2 months when you select over 1 calendar month. The current high season rate is 15,000 per month. The rate reverts to low season rate when the rental term is 6 months or more.

Agreed the room is small but it is brand new, very clean, has cable tv. high speed wireless, full cooking facilities and a decent sized bathroom. Below it is a choice of gyms and pools, above it is tennis courts, saunas, basketball etc. and across the road is another pool, restaurant, more gyms and saunas, all included in the price.

When you look at the total package the price is more than competitive.

Way over priced for 3rd road location and 24 sq metre

Thai police are obliged to interfere if there is trouble brewing, even if they are off duty.

I have never ever seen a Thai policeman intercede in a Tha/Thai domestic dispute. I've seen them watch though.

Thai police are obliged to interfere if there is trouble brewing, even if they are off duty.

I have never ever seen a Thai policeman intercede in a Tha/Thai domestic dispute. I've seen them watch though.

A very valid point - from beginning I found it very hard to beleive that a Thai would get involved with any kind of incident such as this - ive seen for myself people walk right past withough even a pause when domestics are taking place. Surely there must be some other reason for the cop to have got involved

Thing I don't understand. The bullet entered the mouth and then went through and exited the shoulder. Now imagine the position you would have to be in to place a shot like that. It would suggest that person firing the shot was very much in control and firing from a higher vantage point. ie. Standing while the person being shot was lower down, maybe on their knees. Very execution style if you ask me.

Isn't it interesting how a pregnant woman's husband is now suddenly dead, with an interference from a domestic squabble, that is usually considered a non-issue by the culture? And, what timing: the guy just finds out his ex-wife/wife is pregnant by a Thai man, is understandably upset, and there is an OFF-DUTY, drunk cop right there, ready to shoot him "accidentally" - cough, cough - through the mouth and chest, and her through the chest.

How very convenient for someone, except that she lived. It will be interesting to hear about the forensic reports - but wait a minute - they work for the cops, too, don't they, unless we are talking about Pornthip.

Latest news clippings already posted are stating that she is denying she is pregnant. Lets not jump the gun here.

Apologies if this has been posted already, it includes details from the injured victim :

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2008/01/07/thai-cdn.html

Reisig, who denied being pregnant, said she arrived in Thailand several days ago to visit Del Pinto, who she said was her ex-boyfriend and good friend.

For Chloe82

Already, we've determined that an execution took place. I'd guess some beligerent tourists insulted the wrong Thai guy. He may or may not have been a cop, doesn't much matter now does it. Lesson learned: drink lots of water, walk slowly and respect the local population. Funny, works just about everywhere.

can I say this?, I,am half and half ...<deleted> to any idea of kowtowing, showing respect for the culture ( which is what exactly...? )if it means backing down, do not back down from any of there cowards- none of them!

do not change anything, policeman or not,just do as a normal decent person would do and 99.9% of the time your be fine.

,most locals are a bunch of cowardly <deleted> who would,nt do anything without all their friends behind them or a gun,knife or whatever, or some high-so daddy, its pathetic! Get them on their own and they,re nothing.

one to one for people here does,nt exist, at heart I,am ashamed to say this-thais by and large ( not all of coures)are cowards, its just the typical primate mentality of a nation still with one foot in the rice paddy .They ( we) also see westeners as 'better' and so are more likely to act like a primate fool.

I hate it when i see people suggest that westeners should somehow act differently, why does,nt someone suggest that thailand grow up for a change- then we really would have something to be proud of instead of all this mindless propaganda we,re fed from day one

This logic just has a tiny little dent: We live in their country. Their culture and their behavior is their business and none of ours. We like it, we stay, we don’t like it, we leave.

I am responding to the quote and not the shooting of the Canadian guy, where it would be good if we could see a proper investigation and justice done.

Yet, if I were 5.2ft or 5.5, and probably only half the weight of my “Noble and Fair Fighting” attacker, who also had only some blood in his alcohol, and was raving mad on the top of it, because his lady had brought home an unwanted addition to the family, and with his lady now also on the attack showing a rather belated solidarity with her hubby, who knows what I would have done if I had been armed.

I am really sorry when a young life needlessly ends like this.

However, I don’t think he was very smart right from the beginning. Never mind how much it hurts, but when the wife or girlfriend brings a “Cuckoo,” one says ‘Thank you very much for the good times we had, and have a nice day,’ and flees her like a bat out of hel_l. This is 2008 in the Western World. As a Canadian he should know very well that the notoriously anti-male biased courts, cynically called “Family Courts,” pin him down for supporting this child with the full force of the State, if he reconciles. Garnished wages and the confiscation of his driver’s license are only a very small part of the game, if he doesn’t to pay. Several thousand unfortunate Canadian “Cuckoo Fathers” can testify to my statement.

Now, that’s what one can call “Losing Face.”

Errrrrrrrrrrrrr latest reports are saying that she has denied being pregnant.

"Old western-countries saying "Don't pull a knife or gun unless you're willing to use it"

.... expats know that Thai's will do just that, but do tourists? And is it emphasised in guidebooks?"

It sounds to me like the Thai's are willing to use their guns if they pull them. They just don't know when to pull them...

Also, I am no CSI guy, but how do you shoot somebody when you are laying on the ground, and the shot goes through their face, then into their shoulder??? You are shooting up at somebody when you are on the ground, but then the bullet changes direction and comes down through their shoulder after going through the face...Or wait, the falang was probably doing a backflip attack at the time so he was completely upside down when he was shot! There we go, now it makes sense...

Ya and the cop will get away with it. I also like how the newspapers always report it simply as being a "police officer", not "an off-duty police officer".

Ever heard of the magic bullet theory?

Actually it is possible for the bullet to change direction inside the body, .38 shot very close, it's possible.

What we can be sure of is that the scene is already destroyed.

Usually a low velocity..........such as a .38..............or a bullet at the end of its velocity can indeed richochet inside the body looking for the easiest exit.

Instances of shots in the shoulder and the bullet exiting via the hip area.

My condolences to all. But for all their drunkenness, none of this would've happened.

Its believed they had been drinking.........according to reports. Drinking what? We KNOW they were drunk do we??

WE should email the Thai Embassies of our respective countries to express our disgust.

Siamsuperbike.com site is up and running but the shop is closed. The bikes that you can see there where the last bikes that he had. Check the last update time... LOOOONG TIME AGOOO...

Its just a good refrence guide for people that wants to buy a new/2nd hand bike here...

siam superbike has moved to location near tesco lotus on sukhumvit.

Are you talking about the siamsuperbike in Pattaya run by Scott?

I believe this is not the same company that went tits up in Bangkok ( sad story that )

The one in Pattaya has a lot of big bikes for sale..........ranging from a Ducatti 999s to Harleys and cruisers. I believe they also have a Triumph Rocket for sale.

Scott works on my Honda..........no complaints whatsoever.