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1. What have others experienced regarding TM30 when extending their visa at CW?

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2. What have other experienced with download the app or using the website to apply or submit?

3. Has anyone tried mailing in the TM30 form?

4. Since I'm not going to spend 600 b in taxi fare and half a day going to CW each time I return from overseas (bleary eyed and jet lagged), I'm wondering if one should just ignore reporting and accept the fine as another cost of extending their visa, albeit adding 3-4 hours to the process. Any thoughts? 

 

1. & 4. Best to avoid going in person to CW, for the reasons you mention.

2. Have completed online website, received the acknowledgement email, and await the User ID and Password, (about a week so far; this is a huge variable, with some waiting weeks and months). Have completed app and told "already registered", but no User ID and password forthcoming.

3. Mail-in to CW worked for me. Onerous with paper (photocopies) quantities. Receipt received after 2-3 weeks.

Ideally will do it online, once or if IMM provide the User ID and password, otherwise, like the temperamental 90 day online reporting, which I now only do by mail-in to CW, I will complete TM.30 by mail in, with its multitudinous paperwork.

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- Application (can be filled out at the Transport Department)

- Passport Copies: Main page / Visa - Extension / Departure Card / 

- Residency Certificate - Tabien Baan (Yellow book) 

 

If you have a pink (non Thai) "ID" card, would that, plus the application, plus your expiring DL, not be sufficient?

On 7/30/2019 at 1:44 PM, ChouDoufu said:

brewster and santam - are you condo owners?  what documents did you include if not?

Yes, condo owner, jointly with my partner. So for both included:

1) Completed TM.30 - one for each

2) Completed Names of Aliens in Residence, one each with both names of myself and partner

copies of:

3) Passport copy for each

4) TM.6

5) Extension of Stay

6) Title Deed (chanote) or Yellow Book (Tambien Baan), one each

7) Blue Book copy, one each

Everything signed...about 18 pages in all. Receipt was issued to my partner's SASE, with my name on the receipt, (for 2 residents).

9 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

I did mine by mail (exactly the same as doing 90-day reports by mail).  It took 3 weeks, but I got the TM30 receipt back - and no fine.

Ditto.

Thanks Sheryl.

25 minutes ago, RocketDog said:

I hear you Jack and hadn't thought about that. Actually it was bought by a Thai son of my friend when I first landed in Bangkok several years ago. I guess I was lucky.

 

I typically don't use the mobile network except for putting some time on the card when I travel around Thailand every few months.

 

99% if my net traffic is thru my home router which connects to the web thru a VPN installed directly in the router, or at Hotspots such as restaurants etc. In that case I use the same VPN, EXPRESS VPN, installed on my phone itself. I regularly change the country of the server I connect the VPN to, but most often somewhere in USA. So any body trying to track me would think I'm a globetrotter extraordinaire. I never connect the a Thailand server for a number of reasons, with the blocking of porno sites being foremost.  ????

 

My mobile network is turned off most of the time even when I have some credit on it. I found out that as long as it's on the credit leaks away even if I never use the network.

 

So I thank you for the information, but still maintain that installing an app gives the app almost total control of the phone resources, regardless of the permissions you 'allow ' it.

 

Thanks for pushing my intrinsic paranoia one step closer to the edge!  ????

Is the name Bond, James Bond?

Actually the "vitals check" is THB350 a pop...

Thanks Sheryl. Based on your comments and that of RotBenz8888, I have cancelled the CT scan. I have left a message with my gastroenterologist, (who performed the colonoscopy) to find out why his colleague questioned the result of the colonoscopy in 2014. I do have a copy of the result, but not to hand, but I recall he said the next one should be in 10 years, (I'm 62).

Why a CT scan was recommended, I have no idea, but he can explain that one too.

I'm beginning to lose faith in BNH, as they are very expensive for every visit, however rare, with the "vitals check" at THB200 a pop before you even start. Do you recommend another hospital? (I have used Bumrungrad before for their optometry department before BNH's improved, and St Louis for their acupuncturist, both of which were good, but the former is teeming with medical tourists, and (on the surface) the latter seemed a bit sleepy and without up-to-date facilities. 

Thanks. Yes, it seems an endless quest that costs an indeterminate amount.

No, as I said, I'm a non-smoker, and I do not have symptoms for the other prognoses you list.

Are you a doctor? If so, would you suggest I just leave it be for now?

As part of my annual check up, I have a CEA blood test. Since I started having them at BNH my CEA has gone from 5.30 in 2014 to 7.50 yesterday, and steadily rising by small increments within that time frame. In February I had a test and it was 6.50, and yesterday 7.50.

I am now going to have a CAT scan on Wednesday to check my pancreas and lungs. I am a non-smoker.

After my result in 2014 @ 5.30 I had a colonoscopy, approx THB20-30K, I can't remember. (Yesterday they suggested that the colonoscopy done in 2014 wasn't that "clean", so although at the time they suggested 10 years for the next one, they are now suggesting another one should be done now.) The next test CAT scan will cost THB42,000 and change. I have read that CEA should not be used for cancer screening, and yet this appears to be what BNH does, and at financial benefit to them, and cost to me.

Fear plays a part in my choice to proceed with these tests, but I wonder if I am being paranoid.

An impartial medical comment would be welcome.

Thanks.

2 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

Yes since that is what the topic is about.

Are you asking about 90 day reporting since the Eservices app is for that.

https://extranet.immigration.go.th/fn90online/online/tm47/TM47Action.do

OK, I've registered the link, and presume it may take some time to be acknowledged?

(I have had difficulty registering the Eservices app, but not sure why; says "incomplete", but does not highlight or specify what is incomplete.)

Thanks Joe. I have that, but I'm trying to register my partner's details so he can use the app "Immigration eServices for Foreigners". I've tried to complete the app registration using the app, but it keeps getting rejected. But I did one using a URL, which worked, and I received a confirmatory email.

Your link is for the TM.30 filing, right?

Can someone please give me the URL for registration of my details for online services?

Thanks.

On 7/10/2019 at 4:44 PM, ignis said:

HSBC you do not even get a Book, you get statements every month, also have to ask them for the letter for Immigration 3 days before you go,  every year the Extension get harder they want a copy of the ATM card, NO do not have one, It is a Fixed Rate = NO ATM card..  They want all 12 months Statements + Copies of and signed !! 

HSBC in Bangkok? It closed to retail business in 2012.

On 7/15/2019 at 3:04 PM, Pib said:

OP,

  I did a very similar thing since I never completed a TM30 from my arrival 11 years ago.   I completed the TM30 as processor of the house with my yellow book, chanote which has my name on, Pink ID, etc., attached to the TM30.  Include a stamped, self address envelope for TM30 receipt return.  CW received it 27 June...about 2.5 weeks ago.   I haven't got a reply from CW yet....they may have tossed the whole package in the trash can....don't know.  But with you reporting a positive result after 3 weeks and another poster having a similar result after 4 weeks, I'm keeping my fingers crossed that I'll get a TM30 receipt back.  I figured it couldn't hurt to try....time will tell.

My receipt took 24 days to CW IMM, so you're within range.

On 7/15/2019 at 3:04 PM, Pib said:

 

On 7/15/2019 at 2:52 PM, KamnanT said:

The TM30 form and all of the supporting documentation needs to be sent each time.  If only your wife and son left and then returned, then only your wife and son's details need to be included on the second page.  Copies of landlord's ID, tabien baan and your rental contract all need to be included, as the copies you sent with your last TM30 are now lining the bottom of a bird cage somewhere.  AFAIK, Immigration still has no capability to scan documents and save them digitally - they are tied in great big bundles and left in the corner for a few months, then shipped off to a warehouse somewhere.  That's why we have to provide copies of the same documents, over and over, year after year.

Thanks. I suspected as much. Last time it was 16 sheets of paper 8x2 for 2 of us. Monty Python would be proud of the ministry of silly forms.

I've been waiting to see if anyone will reply to this, but so far, no. I have a similar situation, (filed by mail @ IMM CW 2 TM.30s plus 2 sets of documentation for the two of us foreigners who own our condo, received 1 receipt noting "2 aliens" in residence), but like you, I'm not clear whether IMM CW need all of that documentation for the next TM.30 filing, or just the form.

Hope this bumps it up.

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13 hours ago, guru said:

Yes the officer stapled my TM30 in my passport. When I went for my yearly extension a week later it was checked.

We are a foreign couple who own our own condo, and we submitted 2 TM.30s and all the relevant documentation for each (2x). The receipt we received for the TM.30 was issued to me only, but "for 2 aliens" living in the residence, as detailed on the A4 sheet, with both names, passport numbers etc, (which is signed by the same IMM officer as the receipt). So my partner should staple a photocopy of my TM.30 receipt, plus the A4 details of aliens to his passport?!

Presumably those who file online don't receive a hard copy receipt, so they cannot attach anything to the passport.

I think I might just be inclined to show the hard copy when/if I need to go to CW, otherwise the passport is overflowing with attachments, which sometimes get detached by those wanting to photocopy your passport, (such as a hotel in Samui in my case, and not restapling it back in).

Is one supposed to keep the TM.30 receipt stapled to your passport, like the 90 day report receipt?

On 7/7/2019 at 1:38 PM, samtam said:

Good to hear. I filed mine by mail to CW IMM on 18 June, so on 9 July it will be 3 weeks, and I hope I can report the same success.

Yesterday I received my acknowledgement from CW IMM for my TM.30 mailed-in filing, so it took just over 4 weeks. Whereas we had filed 2 TM.30 forms for each of us as co-owners and foreigners, and resident aliens, IMM only returned 1 receipt "for 2 persons". The envelope was the SAE to my partner, and the receipt issued to me, and they returned the SAE with unfranked stamps.

Anyway, now completed, so I will in future file online. 

On 7/5/2019 at 5:27 PM, brewsterbudgen said:

I did my first ever TM30 in 14 years, by mail to Chaeng Wattana.  Took 3 weeks to get the receipt back, but no fine.

Good to hear. I filed mine by mail to CW IMM on 18 June, so on 9 July it will be 3 weeks, and I hope I can report the same success.

2 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

That's my understanding also of the way BKK CW currently is enforcing the TM30 policy.

Do you suppose they need all the supplementary paperwork with the TM.30 each time, such as passport copies, chanote (unitl I get my Tabien Baan), copy of Blue Book, 2 copies of all in my case as we are a foreign couple, with joint ownership of our condo. Having sent all that off to them at CW in early June by registered mail, and not having yet received the receipt, I wonder whether they are struggling under a mountain of paper, which will only increase if the same paperwork is required each and every time.

Anyone had experience of this? I'm about to depart my condo for a couple of months to stay in a serviced apartment, whilst I renovate. The serviced apartment will file TM.30s for us, and I presume we will have to refile when we return to our residence.

For anyone who travels in and out of Thailand regularly, they might know. I have not yet mastered the app filing, as I've only heard mixed reports about the success rate, although I will get around to it eventually.