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"Is it provided for in the legislation?" Just when you think you've heard every crazy argument, along comes this! Talk about grasping at straws. Goodbye!

I'm pretty sure Richard that if an axe murderer, knee deep in fresh corpses, was arrested for murder, you'd find a way to blame the RTP. The story started when SHE posted on social media and the press picked it up from there. HER original story was that she was relieved of 27k, in an alley, because she had the wrong stamp in her passport. Subsequent updates saw her story change as evidence conflicted with her version. It turns out she was alcohol fueled (it was after all 1 am on New Years day morning) plus hse had been openly vaping in front of the police whilst CCTV footage showed that she wasn't taken out of sight of the camera's. My sentence is that Richard is guilty of failure to be impartial . Over and out, enough of this nonsense.

I drive round the moat prob. Three or four times a week, I pass thru loads of checks and never ever ever ever get stopped. And I know enough to know that many farangs get stopped for mot wearing helmets but like to leave out that minor detail and instead brag that they were shaken down for mo reason, the poor babies

There's just no mileage in it for them. It's just like some poster here making a statement and being asked to post a link to prove it. The poster spends an hour on Google and finally post the proof and everyone goes silent and walks away...been there plenty of times. I say, stuff the public, don't post the video, let them deal with their own angst.

Dumb-a$$ here.... Just wondering what I'm doing right and other are doing wrong, if it's on my side and I can figure it, I might be able to package it and sell it and become rich as well as hansum! Even in this thread we've seen posts about how people have been stopped and harassed/ripped off, three times in short periods of time. Statistically, based on the law of averages alone, I should have been stopped and harassed/ripped off at least once...but I haven't. Perhaps it's my lucky amulet, perhaps m'bike riders without helmets are a magnet and should know better than to drive round the moat all day long. Who knows, yet another of life's little mysteries. Oh and hey, I was just wondering, the story started off with the lady in question, posting on social media a series of details that have since been recanted/disproved/superseded, the wrong type of visa was her main complaint initially, that now seems to have been hidden from view. My wife tell me she has announce that she/he will be saying nothing further in this matter....SMART move, some poster shere should do the same arf arf.

You missed out the part about Isabella, Fernando's wife. She's pulling 12 hour shifts in the tortilla factory, wondering why Fernando's in Pattaya and she's seeing all these 5k baht withdrawals from an ATM on Soi 6! ???? We agree on the answer, that's good, I can also agree on the M2 aspect. But the process, well.......! How did we get from Fernando being given his 5k Baht in Thailand to 3k peso's being withdrawn from his Mexican bank account. Who did the second part of that, how? And then, "Banco Amigo ask Bank of Mexico for $150 which they wire through the clearing bank to Kasikorn Bank". You don't mean settlement here (presumably)? That seems like a pretty labour intensive process Bank Amigo and the Mexican Central Bank have to go through, every time a Mexican bank customer wants 5k Baht in Thailand! I'm inclined to stay with the P2P transfer and Visa solution for the moment, but will point out to others that the above only applies to electronic and card based transfer/payments/withdrawals, not in person foreign currency transactions in Thailand. I shall dig further.

Not really, it's SOP. It's typical that the fine is discounted to half of what it is supposed to be because the fine for a farang is nearly always double what it is for a local. I don't know if it's still there but there used be a board in the CM police station with the amounts on, in two columns, local and foreigner. That's the way it is, you got the local discount, well done.

As a general principle, I agree! Although in this particular case I did read one story that said the lady in question was vaping in front of them, whether or not that is true and correct, I don't know.

Your mate's a slow learner it seems, almost everyone knows about the police bike checks on the moat, you should have told him. And if you did, he should have taken the steps to fix the problem, my guess is helmet and/or license.

Richard, you may be ex law enforcement, I am not, I just go by the latest press reports and cast my opinion accordingly....no apologies if that doesn't pass your sniff test for the Sherlock award! Latest in the media I have read is that CCTV favors the police, I'll wait for the next press release and see what I think then but in the meantime I'm not playing Watson to your Sherlock.

Umm, I don't think so. I'm pretty sure if I was law enforcement I wouldn't publish, just because a herd of people who don't like the police in any country, especially foreigners, wants me to. It sets a bad precedent.

If posters are happy doing those things they shouldn't complain and shouldn't refer to them derogatorily as shake down or similar, they agreed to the transaction, that's their prerogative. What would I do? That's my business but I certainly am not in the habit of handing out money to anyone, just because they say they want it, police or not. I understand I'm in the minority in this debate but I don't feel like being part of a herd of people, some of whom don't always tell the truth or supply the complete picture. This is especially true when my experience over many years is different from yours and others. And don't refer to me as a tool again, just because I don't agree with your point!

I hope you're never a juror at my trial anytime, filling in the gaps in factual evidence and concluding a guilty verdict, is not a desirable trait.

In the newspaper whose name must not be spoken, yesterday. But not the CCTV footage itself, just the report that it had been located, reviewed and what was seen.

Well, when I stopped banging my head against the wall, the pain stopped straight away! Alternatively the issue of credibility arises, either that or perhaps the poster has a unique physical composition comprising RTP magnetic qualities.

Then please do so and post your findings so that we all may understand.

First hand experience of members usually appear sufficient when the opposite argument is proposed! If it is not and you wish to discount it, you must also discount the previous ops story, as cute as it was.

Expats who live in Thailand probably wouldn't agree that calling the entire RTP dumb on a Thai forum, was a good or that it was even a little bit helpful!

As poster @Thailandmentioned above, the evidence from CCTV and other sources does not seem to support her claim. And as if that's not enough, the anecdotal evidence from posters about their experiences of being shaken down by the police didn't hold water either. Such is the desperation amongst alleged victims to save face that they will invent their own versions, such is the desperation amongst posters to prove the police are guilty that they too will reinvent and bend historic fact. This is not an attractive picture. Oh wait you say, we want to see the evidence, show us the CCTV. You have no right to demand such things, get over it, it's not your job.

Interesting. I was refused a medical insurance add on to a life insurance policy, a medical report from BG, relating to one specific event, 16 years ago was the only medical report they requested. I was very surprised, as was the agent. At the time I did not realise anything was amiss and that the problem had been dealt with, the insurer took a different view.

That's not a shake down, you were in violation of the law. But the daughter part was nice, bless her.

Are you saying you were stopped three times, taken to the police station, not made aware of the reason for the fine on any occasion, yet you paid it each time! I think if that was me I'd stop riding a bike, get somebody else to drive me or buy a car. I can't remember the last time I was stopped, it must be many years ago, on the Superhighway on the way to Bangkok, at a drugs checkpoint I think.

Details please, was one of the shake downs for not wearing a helmet by any chance?

So many variables involved in the land price....made up, near a road, electric, access, paddy, not paddy, ultimately it's about location I guess.

Because......if you buy 1 Rai at 5 mill., spend 3 mill. to build a nice house, in a nice location, the total value is worth more than the sum of its parts.