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MCT oil much less viscous and better than pure cocoanut oil. It doesn't harden in the fridge and no cocoanut smell. Odorless. Neutral. When you say "Stores for years in airtight jars in fridge.", how many years are you actually thinking? I thought 2 years is about the limit because eventually the oil breaks down, goes a bit rancid, and the tiny remnants of the cannabis bits in the oil can start to rot, no matter how well sealed or chilled in the fridge.

To be honest, based on everything you just said, I would probably just give it a pass completely. Probably not worth the challenges and possible negative outcomes unless you're going to do it in a conventional way. I think eating it raw poses certain risks and I've never tried it myself. It might upset your stomach, if it's not totally clean and fresh. It might also have some fungus growing on it that you can't see, which could lead to a fungal infection in your intestines. So I would say it's not worth the risk given the fact that if you just eat raw cannabis, it might not even provide you with any real psychoactive effects. More downside risks than upsides in my opinion. But if you really want to eat it, why not buy a cannabis cookie or a brownie from one of those cannabis shops that is selling them and then sit there for a few hours and see how you feel? To me that seems like the lowest risk and best possible outcome without any major cost or inconvenience. I'm not sure if you're planning to be in Bangkok, but you could go to Royal Queen Seeds, which is a big cannabis shop very close to the Asoke intersection. You can find it on Google maps. I've never been there myself, but I've been meaning to go check it out some day. The people who set it up are originally from Amsterdam I believe. I think they also have shops in Holland and I've heard good things about the place. I see on Google maps that they also sell edible cannabis brownies and gummy's and I think you could take it there on campus and chill out for a few hours. Order some beverages and just relax. I think they are open until 1 AM, so plenty of time to stay there for a while if you want and I assume the people working in the shop are knowledgeable and would guide you in the right direction. That would be my suggestion, but you can think about it and decide.

Those are good questions. I think once cannabis became legal in Thailand, a lot of cannabis-curious people came out of the woodwork. Many have probably never tried it before, or if they did, maybe only once or twice as teenagers. Most of them are likely just traveling or staying short-term in Thailand and come from countries where cannabis is either not readily available, quite expensive, or outright illegal. Some may not know where to get it back home, while others might be wary of buying it on the black market. On top of that, their social circles are probably made up of people in similar situations, meaning they do not have anyone to help guide them through their first experience. With that in mind, the best option for someone like that might be to find a relaxed cannabis shop in Thailand that has a comfortable space to sit, consume, and ease into the experience. Being around other users in that kind of setting could help them feel more at ease and offer some guidance if needed, of course it depends on the type of other people that are around. But tiptoeing in with a small dose for the first few times is always the best way to go, at least until your brain gets a better understanding of what the psychoactive effects are all about.

Dry herb vaporizers are small, handheld, battery-powered electronic devices that function like an oven. They have buttons to control the power level and temperature, a small chamber where you place the cannabis for vaping, and a nozzle where you inhale the vapor. A good quality one sells for around USD$100 or the Thai baht equivalent. There are a couple of local websites where you can order one online and have it delivered to an address within Thailand. Xmax is a high-quality US brand that manufactures its dry herb vaporizers in China and sells them worldwide, and there are a few sellers in Thailand that offer this brand as well. Some people buy them overseas and hand-carry them into Thailand without any issues. As long as they are brand new, unused, and contain no remnants of cannabis inside the chamber, it seems unlikely that anyone would face problems. Others prefer to buy them from local shops in Thailand that import and resell them. Personally, I would just purchase one in Thailand rather than bring one in myself, since the price difference is small and not really worth the hassle. Using a dry herb vaporizer is simple. You just take some cannabis bud, grind it up, and load it into the chamber of the device. The preparation process is no different from rolling a joint or packing a pipe or bong. Once you have consumed it and the contents in the oven are used up, you simply dump out the residue and reload it when you are ready to vape again. As I mentioned in my previous post, there are several shops in Thailand, both online and in retail stores, that sell cannabis-infused oil. However, I have never purchased any myself, as I only make small quantities for personal use. So I cannot personally vouch for the quality of what is being sold for cannabis infused oil in Thailand. I assume there is some good, locally made product available, but figuring out which ones are high quality is unclear unless you buy some and test it yourself or get a recommendation from someone who has purchased from a particular shop before.

I’m glad you brought up the potential illegality of cannabis-infused oil because it also ties into another reason why vapes are illegal in Thailand. For those who may not be familiar with the legal details, natural forms of cannabis such as flowers, buds, and all other unprocessed cannabis plant materials are no longer classified as illegal narcotics in Thailand. This means they can be consumed legally without issue. Most high quality cannabis buds themselves naturally contain between 20 to 30 percent THC, which is completely legal despite the high THC content because it is in its natural form. However, any cannabis extract product that contains more than 0.02 percent THC remains illegal. This is why commercially produced THC vape cartridges, many of which are openly sold in cannabis shops in Thailand, are actually illegal. They contain concentrated THC levels that exceed the legal limit, making them a much bigger legal risk than simply vaping dry herb. Dry herb vaping is just a method of consuming natural cannabis that has been ground up by then heating it up, a concept that is essentially not different from smoking it in a joint or using a bong. It is also important to distinguish THC vape cartridges from nicotine vapes. Both types of vapes are technically illegal in Thailand, but for different reasons. Nicotine vapes, which contain harmful additives and chemicals, are banned primarily due to health concerns and regulations surrounding tobacco alternatives. However, THC vape cartridges are illegal for an additional reason, mainly because they contain THC extract in concentrations far higher than what is legally permitted. This makes them more of a legal risk than nicotine vapes, as they violate both the country’s vape ban and its restrictions on high content THC cannabis extracts. Cannabis-infused oil is a more complicated issue. The Thai government distributes a couple of brands of cannabis extract oil through government hospitals for medical purposes, particularly for pain management and other health conditions. These oils are typically low in THC and high in CBD. In my opinion, they seem to be made from low-quality locally outdoor-grown cannabis, and I question their effectiveness or if they contain any useful amounts of any cannabinoids at all, but that is a discussion for another time. That said, I have seen many people on this forum talk about making their own cannabis-infused oil for personal use, and it seems to be a common practice in Thailand. If someone were ever questioned about having possession of it, it would be difficult to distinguish the legal differences between homemade cannabis oil from the cannabis oil distributed through government hospitals without sending it to a lab for THC percentage testing. Realistically, that is not something authorities are likely to do unless someone is caught with large quantities, making it look like they are selling or distributing it. The key issue is that any oil you make yourself is obviously going to contain far more than the legally permissible amount of THC, but it is unlikely to attract any attention from local authorities. There are also both online and offline shops in Thailand openly selling locally made cannabis-infused oil with high THC levels. Even a former forum member whose wife owns a small cannabis shop in Phuket makes and sells it through their shop. So the question is, if you are making your own oil from legally purchased cannabis flower for personal use, does that qualify as an illegal THC extract product under the law, or is it just another form of personal preparation? If you are not selling it or producing it in large quantities, it seems unlikely that it would be treated the same way as mass-produced THC vape cartridges or a high-THC oil being made and sold commercially. Bottom line, I would not be concerned if you are making small amounts of cannabis-infused oil for personal use. And even if you wanted to buy it instead, I could name at least half a dozen websites that openly sell it in Thailand, suggesting that homemade, non-mass-produced cannabis oil is widely available and not something authorities are actively cracking down on. Correct me if you think any of this is wrong, but that is my take on it.

I use a combination of dry herb vaping and consuming edible cannabis-infused oil that I make myself. I don’t like smoking anything either because of the risk of lung damage, but dry herb vaping doesn’t pose that risk IMHO. Since there’s no combustion, there’s no tar or ash entering your lungs. You’re essentially just inhaling hot air and the vapor from the cannabis, similar to how cannabis would release fumes if it were baked in an oven. As JT mentioned, edible highs last a long time, about six hours in my experience, but I actually like the longer duration. My approach is to vape a little and consume the oil simultaneously. This way, I start feeling the effects from the vape right away, and by the time those wear off, the oil kicks in. Vaping provides an immediate effect but typically lasts only about two and a half hours before fading. However, if you pair it with an edible, you don’t need to keep vaping once the edible takes effect. In the past, I used to vape more without taking any oil, but then I found myself needing to vape repeatedly throughout the evening. Now, with the combination, I often stop vaping once the oil kicks in. Edibles take about an hour to kick in on an empty stomach, while on a full stomach, it can take anywhere from two to two and a half hours. The strength and dosage of the edible also plays a big role in how intense the effects are and how quickly you might feel them. It’s also worth noting that smoking or vaping cannabis gives a more immediate, head-focused high, whereas edibles create a more relaxing body effect. Edibles can leave you feeling laid-back without the same intense mental effects that come with smoking or vaping. That said, dosage is key. One time, I took too much oil as an experiment and didn’t like the feeling. It was too intense both mentally and physically, and I didn’t want to endure it for hours, so I took a very low dose of a tranquilizer to help bypass it. About 30 minutes later, I felt pretty much normal again. It’s a good backstop in case you accidentally overdo it on the cannabis while learning about your own tolerance levels. Anyway, I’ll stop here. This is a discussion that could go on forever, but hopefully, that gives you enough info to get started. As for the legality of dry herb vapes, I don’t worry about it. I’ve never heard of anyone in Thailand having any legal problems for using a dry herb vaporizer or for consuming cannabis in any form, ever since it was removed from the list of illegal narcotics in June 2022. Also, a dry herb vaporizer itself doesn’t contain any illegal substances, so the device technically shouldn’t be viewed as illegal. It simply heats up cannabis flower, which in itself isn’t an illegal act. The real legal issues with vaping in Thailand involves consuming prefilled cartridges containing oil, nicotine, flavorings and other harmful chemicals, which can cause serious lung damage, especially for teenagers who typically use them constantly throughout the day. Another big advantage of a dry herb vaporizer is that it produces very little, if any noticeable cannabis smell at all. This means you don’t have to worry about how people around you might react if they dislike the smell of cannabis. Dry herb vaporizer can also be considered condo friendly. In many condos in Thailand, they now have rules against smoking cannabis in your own apartment, or even on your own balcony, but use of a dry herb vaporizer in your apartment is undetectable by others. You can even use a dry herb vaporizer in a public place, and in most cases, people won't even realize you are consuming a form of cannabis.

I vaped steadily at 190c for over a year. Occasionally at 200c. But I recently just dropped it down to 170c in the last week. Huge improvement. I thought it wouldn't be as effective at the lower temperature, but I feel I get the same amount of THC from it as I do at a higher temperature. Also, no coughing at 170c and, after the second hit from the weed in the vape, it doesn't start to taste burnt. I much prefer that. No smoke comes out of mouth at 170c, but not necessary. I usually take 3-4 big hits from the vape at 170c before dumping the weed and all of the hits taste good when vaping at 170c. My go to method now is I do 3-4 big hits off the vape and swallow the oil at the same time. By the time the weed from the vape starts to wear off, then the oil kicks in and lasts about 4-5 hours. No waiting for the high to hit this way. Just a steady cruise the whole time. I really like it. Since I know how much of my oil I need to take, I can now dial the dose in perfectly every time. Takes a bit of trial and error, but if you got good oil and, once you get it locked in, then you are all set.

Yes, it is a necessary step. I do it for one hour. I also use a mason jar and a double boiler setup for that too instead of an oven. Same setup as when you do the oil infusion, except you only put cannabis in the mason jar and no oil for the decarb step and you boil it at slightly higher temperature for decarbing than you do when you move onto the oil infusion stage. Decarbing by boiling in a mason jar means the weed doesn't get too dried out and/or burned at all as it might if decarbing in the oven. Just got to monitor the water temperature every 15 minutes with a cooking thermometer.

Nice! I use an Xmax Starry 4.0. I think they offer an adapter for that model to attach it to a bong stem too, but I’ve never tried it. Honestly, I prefer to keep things simple. I don’t want another piece of equipment to think about or clean. That said, I’m sure it makes the experience easier on the throat. Best wishes with your cannabis MCT oil-making ventures. If you have any questions along the way, feel free to add them to this thread, and I’ll do my best to help.

I agree, edibles tend to produce more of a body-high, while smoking or vaping cannabis delivers more of a head-high. Personally, I prefer more the body-high because the head-high can sometimes feel too intense, occasionally causing headaches or mild nausea at first. That’s something I’ve never experienced with the edible oil I use. Of course, even edible cannabis affects your head and has the same psychoactive properties as smoking or vaping once it takes full effect. However, it doesn’t feel as directly intense in the head, which I find more enjoyable with edibles. Plus, you don't get the scratchy or irritated throat, cough, bad taste in your mouth or congestion that you might get from vaping or smoking. That said, if you take too strong a dose of an edible, it can still lead to an overwhelming experience.

You’re welcome. I used to set the dry herb vaporizer to 190°C, but I’ve recently dropped it down to 170°C, and it’s made a considerable difference. My throat no longer feels irritated, yet I still get the same amount of THC from just a few hits off the vape. At this lower temperature, there’s no longer any visible smoke when I exhale, but that doesn’t bother me. Another benefit I’ve noticed about the lower temperature is that the weed in the vape doesn’t start tasting burnt after just the second hit, which I much prefer as it makes the last two hits in the vape more pleasant. As I mentioned in my original post, I now only take a few hits from the vape though and combine that with some edible cannabis oil. Once the oil kicks in, I don’t vape again for the rest of the evening, which is nice for me. The link below provides one of the best guides I’ve come across for making your own cannabis-infused MCT oil. The process can be a bit nuanced, and I do tweak a few of her steps slightly, but the guide is solid and should help you get started. https://emilykylenutrition.com/cannabis-infused-mct-oil/ I also flavor my oil with concentrated flavor extracts, after I've put the finished oil in little glass bottles. The flavoring is not a necessary step though and if you have any questions on any of the steps, feel free to ask. At very reasonable prices on Lazada, you can find high-quality MCT oil, metal strainers, coffee presses, glass dropper bottles, tea towels, mason jars, cooking thermometers and everything else needed and mentioned in the guide. And I got all my equipment for the infusion process from there. By the way, you mentioned a bong. Are you using it with your dry herb vaporizer, or are you smoking directly from the bong?

Recently, I’ve started vaping dry herb less often and using more of my homemade edible cannabis infused oil as my primary method of THC delivery. This shift is mainly because the dry heat from the dry herb vaporizer was beginning to cause some mild throat irritation, which I wasn’t happy with. Additionally, I’ve found that I enjoy the effects of edibles a bit more overall too. One downside to using edible oil is the slower onset of THC’s effects, but I’ve come up with a solution for that, which I’ll explain in a moment. I also appreciate how the effects of an edible come on more gradually rather than hitting all at once. Another benefit to the oil is the longer half life, typically lasting 5 to 6 hours, compared to about 2 hours when vaping. When I vape, I find myself needing to re-dose every couple of hours throughout the evening, which can get a bit inconvenient, but something that's never an issue with the edible cannabis oil. Now, I’ve developed a new routine that combines both methods. I start with a few light hits from the vape for an immediate buzz, and then I ingest a good dose of the oil at the same time. By the time the initial effects from vaping begin to fade, the oil kicks in fully. It feels like the best of both worlds. I get that quick onset from vaping and the long-lasting effects of the oil without having to vape throughout the night. Best of all, I’ve been able to reduce throat irritation by vaping less, and I’ve also started using the vaporizer at a lower temperature than before. The vape hits aren’t as strong as they used to be, but this also helps minimize irritation. The oil I make for myself is MCT oil infused with high THC content cannabis flower, producing roughly 20 to 25 mg of THC per 1 mL. Typically, I ingest between a quarter to a half mL of the oil, which works out to around 8 to 12 mg of THC (about 15 to 20 drops). Fifteen to twenty drops of edible oil might sound like a lot, but it’s really not. When I drop it onto a very small teaspoon, the amount of oil I consume looks no larger than the tip of my pinky finger. It’s very easy to ingest, and I’ve also added some vanilla and banana flavor concentrates to give it a bit of extra flavor. For me, this has recently become my favorite delivery method with minimal downsides. What about you? How do you prefer to consume your cannabis? Do you use bongs, joints, edibles, vaporizers, or something else?

Totally agree. Around 20 years ago, I had planned to retire there, eventually. Now, forget it. The air there is awful as you know. I guess they have made some progress on reducing sugar crop burning in the last few years, but it's certainly not enough. Big Agra is the killer that can't be stopped. I was up there for a visit in late 2023, before the pollution got bad last year, but no plans to return again. Just thinking about it turns me off. The link below, shared by somebody else in another forum post earlier today, openly highlights the problems within the government, not properly intervening in a meaningful way, and how Chiang Mai became the world's most polluted city: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/4/12/how-chiang-mai-became-the-worlds-most-polluted-city

Thailand now has several weed vendors offering buds for ฿30 per gram (or less) via the LINE app, with countrywide delivery options via the Post Office or local couriers. All of these sellers accept payment via bank transfer, but also accept cash on delivery (COD) as a payment method I believe. Following a list of LINE IDs for four of the most popular vendors I’ve come across. Do you have a favorite, or perhaps know of a better one? @fh420 - Fis high 420 @ca08 - เพื่อนกัญ SHOP @hpf9 - HappyFarm @bkkush - Bangkok Kush

What kind of papers are you rolling with? Are they king size? I think with king size papers you can get a gram into a joint more easily. Much more difficult with the standard one and a quarter size.

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.25 g would be kind of like a toothpick. Just remembered that I have some of those RAW brand papers around. I hadn't looked at them before, but I realize now that they're the same size as the Bambu brand I used to use over 40 years ago; 1 1/4. As an experiment, I just packed in an amount that I normally would've rolled with back then and it came out to be .42 g on the scale. It was kind of a pin joint. Then I did a second one with as much as I could stuff in there and it came out to only .66 g. So, yes, joints were a lot smaller back in the day. Probably averaging .5 g. What impressed me though about these RAW papers was that, back then, if I twisted them as hard as I did these, they would've torn so easily. I guess rolling paper technology has come a long way now too because I didn't even come close to tearing these RAW papers. It would be interesting to see what the Bambu papers are like now. I assume they are not as brittle as they were before either. The watermark on Bambu rolling papers features the brand’s name written in its signature cursive script. The design is embedded in a way that is visible when held up to the light along with some vertical lines.

The cones I bought on Shopee are called "Bros" brand. You can tell by that kind of a brand name that it's a new entry to the world of weed. Paid ฿150 for 100 cones. Possibly they aren't the real brand either for that low price, but they look like they work.

I guess you were. 😊 When I was a young teenager, they didn't even have those pre-rolled cones. The millennials are pretty lucky with all this modern tech. You had to really roll your own back then, but it wasn't a big deal. The weed was so disastrously bunk though that the problem was that it was difficult to get rid of all the seeds and twigs in the weed before you rolled it. You would often end up getting a twig poking through and tearing the joint, or, even worse, a seed would combust inside the joint while you were smoking it and nearly tear your joint in half. We usually called it reefer. Or just pot. And the papers weren't cone shaped either. Bambu were the nicest brand of rolling paper back then. Very thin, and, if you were able to roll a joint with them successfully, then it almost felt like there was no paper on your weed when you were smoking it. If you were not such a great roller, then you went for the EZ Wider brand. They were thick and clumsy, but it was hard to miss rolling with those. I think on average back then we would probably put about half a gram into a normal joint. I don't think we rolled too many 1 g joints. I see you can still buy Bambu brand rolling papers from Spain on Amazon. I might have them send over a half a dozen packs just for nostalgia. One of the Cheech and Chong movies was even titled The Big Bambu.

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Yeah, that brick weed, which is what most of it was back then, came from Mexico or South America and it had THC as low as 2% and probably as high as around 6%. It was all pretty much garbage. There was a bit of that sinsemilla around at times, which is Spanish for "without seeds". It was a lot more expensive, a bit greener and had a bit better smell, maybe slightly higher THC, but by comparison still pretty pedestrian compared to what they grow now. I smoked it for about a year or two as a teenager, then completely quit for 40 years. By the time I rediscovered it last year, everything had changed tremendously. I don't smoke it, but people don't even need to roll their own joints anymore. They sell rolling papers already in the shape of a cone with a filter at the end and all you need to do is pour some weed down the tube and you got yourself a perfect joint. If you fill it correctly, you'll end up using about a gram almost every single time. I did some experimenting with the cones just to see how they turn out and each one came out as a perfect gram on the scale. One of those seems like it would be enough to pass around between four or five people.

The only thing I vape is flowers. I'm using what's called a "dry herb vaporizer". It's basically just a miniaturized electronically controlled weed oven that heats it up to 190°C (or whatever temperature you set it to) which is enough to cause it to release a good blast of THC vapors. But since there is no combustion, you're not inhaling any tar or ash along with it from the weed, it's only the cannabinoids that you're inhaling. I'm generally the same though when it comes to sleeping after vaping. It gives me lots of thoughts and not so easy to fall asleep, unless of course, I'm just really exhausted. Then it can be nice.

I can't answer the question about being stoned on a daily basis with a partner because I don't know, but I don't get any mood swings. And if I'm with a woman, I only get a stronger sexual feeling.

I've tried 50 to 60 strains over the last year. None of them really affect me any differently, some are a bit stronger than others and that's about it. To me, high is high. But nothing compares to the strength of the edible cannabis oil. It's really potent. If I take enough of it, it definitely exceeds the intensity of the high from any weed that I've vaporized. I also don't see how the effects of vaping cannabis could last a week like you mentioned. In my non-expert opinion, the depression seems unrelated to that particular vaping event you had and possibly more to do with your overall state at the time. Anyway, I can definitely understand how you would feel better after getting off of the weed. I wouldn't say you were a heavy user, but an abuser. I had a friend, also in Thailand, who was also consuming those amounts for a few months and ended up needing some psychiatric treatment. Delusions, schizophrenia, paranoia, the works. I spoke with the doctor who treated my friend, using that amount in a day is definitely the path to nowhere. I think there is a point with cannabis where if you really go beyond a certain amount of it daily, and for a sustained period of time, then it's not going to have a positive outcome. Like everything else in this world, including the most healthy foods, everything needs to be in moderation. Chicken eggs are a perfect example. There is a great amount of nutritional value in the yolk, but when I consume too many per day, and for a sustained period of time, my LDL levels go through the roof. Too much of a good thing. Also, I would be surprised if you're going to find anyone here also smoking 3 to 4 g a day who's going to be able to provide you with any kind objective opinion about their own experiences. In my view, that amount is just way over the top and anyone using that much per day is in denial if they think that that's a good thing. At most, I vape .75 to 1.25 g in a day, on the heaviest of days, often less. A quarter gram in the vape, couple hours later, another quarter gram and it goes on, but never more than say five loads in a night, and I never use any more than that amount unless I'm sharing with somebody else. I can also understand why everything is more enjoyable to you now that you stopped smoking. You were in such a state that it seems like your other sensories shut down. Inhaling that much cannabis smoke every day probably also killed your taste buds too. When I first started using cannabis, I did smoke it, before I discovered vaping, and smoking it was awful. The aftertaste in my mouth lasted for hours. And back then I was also using such minuscule amounts because I was a new user. I can't imagine what my mouth would be like after smoking 3 to 4 g a day. My tongue would probably fall off. I often vape a bit now before I eat something and it enhances that too, just the way it enhances sex. But the reason my experiences are different I assume is because this comes back to the whole theme of moderation. Anyway, my suggestion to you would be to never start it up again, period, or perhaps you could end up back in the same dark place you were before. But on a positive note, it sounds like you are already aware of the fact that it's not a good thing for you anymore. Best just to forget about it and look for other things in life for fulfillment and best wishes to you with the way forward.

You mean using it for sex or just when spending time with a partner in general? I don't have a regular partner. So I'm usually only with them for a couple of hours. But some of them have vaped with me before having sex. Not sure how it affects them in that way, but it's a good question. I'm also not sure if it enhances sex for women the same way that it does for men, but perhaps it does. Do you use cannabis too? And if so, do you have any experience with that?