Jeff the Chef

Lol, can't even admit you're wrong, as expected. As I said, did you reply to my post to Hanaguma, yes or no?

You're being disingenuous, I replied to Hanaguma and you then replied to me after that, as I said in my previous post to you those are my answers, like it or lump it, and that's your lot.

You make the accusation that I "prefer to believe Hamas" completely false, I do not believe Hamas, the same as I don't believe the IDF without any corroborating evidence, then you ask why. My original questions to you: Is that common knowledge or because the IDF says so? So, hypothetically, Hamas surrenders, hands back all the live or dead hostages and everyone goes back home to wherever they lived prior to 7/10, what happens then, we carry on as before 7/10 with no changes? You also wrote: "It’s bot only IDF who says so by the way." I replied to that with: "Which bot are you on about now?" meaning, I have no idea what you are saying when you wrote "It's bot only IDF who say so by the way"

That's it, good boy, make an accusation and avoid answering the question. Which bot are you on about now?

Israel’s war on Gaza may be “a curtain call” for the post-World War Tw0 international rules-based order, Amnesty International secretary general Agnes Callamard said on Thursday. “The gravity of the violations being committed, the fact that we are witnessing them every day… the flimsy justification by western democracies - all of these warn… of a possible total collapse of the rules-based order,” she said. Speaking at the Balfour Project annual conference in London, Callamard denounced the US and UK’s continued backing of Israel’s offensive in Gaza as “making a mockery” of international law. The conference dealt with the question how “peace with justice” can be achieved in Palestine, but many of the speakers highlighted how the actions of the UK, US and other western governments are at odds with this goal. https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/war-gaza-may-be-curtain-call-international-order-amnesty-chief-warns

Is that common knowledge or because the IDF says so? So, hypothetically, Hamas surrenders, hands back all the live or dead hostages and everyone goes back home to wherever they lived prior to 7/10, what happens then, we carry on as before 7/10 with no changes?

Hamas, happy now?

Credit: Daily Telegraph 2024-06-08 Conservative right-wing rag lol, going further right, no surprise if it backs Farage and Reform Party, jumping off a sinking ship. Only trouble is there up to there eyes in debt, £1bn, print media is finished.

Can I be excused from having any part of Bob inside me, not my thing. To me these threads are a daft laugh, nobody is forced to read or post. Wouldn't be surprised if Bob and his Mrs are sat having a right laugh. Life's to short.

Are you being argumentative, or stating a fact, give us a clue?

I think the opposite, Jews I have met throughout my life have all been great people, some are very religious, Orthodox, others had all the patter but didn't as far as I know go in for the whole Synagogue thing, others that squared the circle would back in the old country come round for a bacon sandwich on a weekend. different strokes for different folks. Zionists on the other hand, those who wanted to go to Israel to live could really bring a downer to a great party of mixed people, with there views on people that didn't see the world their way. Just my experience.

To me, you lose all credibility with the comments like "gormless lefties," hatred of Jews. The problem with Israel is Zionism not the Jews, to me 2 completely different entities. Palestine is their Country, like it or not they have not been born in a Western/European environment, their values at ground level are different to ours, to me, we are all about material rubbish and consumerism and the me me me culture. It could also be argued that we in the West/Northern Hemisphere have lost the plot as far as communities are concerned. The World is getting smaller thanks to modern communications, your point about conditions for women and minorities, there way of dealing with LGBGT stuff worked fine for hundreds of years, who are we to say that is wrong just because it's become to me, fashionable in the West, but hey, women are alright but there's nowt like the real thing. All the haters will still hate, but to me give us a bit of slack, we are not all the same.

Are you a member of the IDF? Your lying or WiKi is: Legislative elections were held in the Palestinian territories on 25 January 2006 in order to elect the second Palestinian Legislative Council (PLC), the legislature of the Palestinian National Authority (PNA). The result was a victory for Hamas, contesting under the list name of Change and Reform, which received 44.45% of the vote and won 74 of the 132 seats, whilst the ruling Fatah received 41.43% of the vote and won 45 seats.[1] The newly elected PLC met for the first time on 18 February 2006. Incumbent Prime Minister Ahmed Qurei tendered his resignation on 26 January 2006, but remained interim Prime Minister at the request of President Mahmoud Abbas. On 20 February, Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh was nominated to form a new government. The new government with Haniyeh as Prime Minister was sworn in on 29 March. As of May 2024, no new elections have been held since this one. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Palestinian_legislative_election#Opinion_polls

No I doubt it, she died in childbirth, RIP Mum.

Were Hamas elected by the Palestinians in Gaza? Are the Israeli's lawfully running an Apartheid state as an open prison/concentration camp? Does the world of public opinion think that what the Israeli's are doing, have done is OK in the 21st Century? Could anyone believe that the "Most Moral Army, the IDF" are as honest as the day is long?

Infantile comments about me from you are the joy of my life. Let me state clearly, I support the Palestinians Leaders, elected rightly or wrongly, as Winston Churchill said “Democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time”.

As you asked the question, despite your silliness I will answer the question. I don't want Israel wiped out in any way shape or form, never have, never will. Israel just need to comply with UN Resolutions, move back behind the Greenline, dismantle all their illegal walls, and point all their weapons inwards, and shut the hell up. Simples.

Really, many leaders of nations have been at war over the years and found out to their costs fighting on 2 fronts is not a good idea.

So Newsweek's opinion piece trumps the highest Court in the civilised World, who'd of thought it. IMHO, until we go back to treating both sides the same this will go on forever. Whatever way this is looked at, for the life of me all I see is propaganda and money being the route of all evil, on both sides.

Did you not take out the insurance Bob? I've always found the Lazada/Shopee "damaged goods" guarantee excellent, normally get a label to send them back if it's not right.

Unbelievable, 3 nights in a row, should have been out the door on night 2. Bob, you have the patience of a Saint.

Israel eyes war in Lebanon, but Hezbollah poses unique threat Netanyahu has neither the US backing nor the bombs for a conflict with the Lebanese political party, and the consequences for Israelis could be catastrophic Ever since it became clear that Israel’s ground attack on Gaza would be unprecedented and carry on for months without end, the region has been acutely aware of the risk of the conflict spreading like wildfire to the Lebanese border. In the last few days, this metaphor became a reality. Firefighters on Tuesday battled flames around Kiryat Shmona, brushfires set off by a volley of drones and missiles fired by Hezbollah. The undeclared war in the north between Hezbollah and the Israeli army has been intensifying, with each side trading heavier blows across an ever-widening area. Israel targeted senior Hezbollah commanders deep in the Beqaa valley. In response, Hezbollah demonstrated that its rocket force is qualitatively different from Hamas’s arsenal. Israeli soldiers take shelter in an underpass in Hurfeish in northern Israel, 5 June 2024 (Reuters/Avi Ohayon) https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-hungers-war-lebanon-hezbollah-poses-vastly-different-challenge

War on Gaza: Why Hamas cannot accept Israel's ceasefire proposal Contrary to Biden's portrayal of the deal, it does not guarantee an end to the war, nor a full withdrawal of Israeli forces If anyone owns the daily carnage in Gaza being carried out by an angry and humiliated Israeli army, whose ranks are filled with religious settlers, it is US President Joe Biden. From the first days after the Hamas attack on 7 October, Biden framed this savage act of collective punishment on 2.3 million Palestinians as a just war. It was he who led the charge that Israel had the right to defend itself. It was he who sabotaged calls for an immediate ceasefire at the UN Security Council. It was he who replenished Israel’s stocks of smart bombs and missiles. And it is under his watch that the US turned its back on the two highest courts of international justice. https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/war-gaza-why-hamas-cannot-accept-israels-ceasefire-proposal

Middle East Eye has exclusively obtained a copy of the ceasefire proposal that was made by Israel and passed by mediators to Hamas last week. The Israeli proposal, which is a counteroffer to one mediated by the US, Qatar and Egypt on 6 May, says Israel has agreed to a "temporary cessation of military operations" for 42 days that will be followed by open-ended talks to reach a permanent ceasefire. It says the "temporary ceasefire" can be extended after the initial 42-day phase "as long as negotiations on the conditions of stage two of [the] agreement are ongoing," the document says. The Israeli response also offers limited withdrawal of troops in the first phase of the three-stage agreement and says the complete pull-out would take place in the second phase, which is subject to further discussions. It also stipulates that Israel can veto the release of at least 100 Palestinian prisoners serving life sentences in the first phase. https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/gaza-war-text-ceasefire-proposal-approved-israel

A bone of contention you are opening there, one man's Hamas Terrorist is another man's No man, how drones, UAV's work, operate, and include military. As for the proof, have a look at the source/poster.