MangoKorat

1 minute ago, Chivas said:

Furthermore the chief immigration minister produced an article which was here on Thaivisa at the time and I've got it saved probably on other laptop where you have 24 hours to produce your passport to a police station if asked to do so

 

I dont know absolutely anyone these 32 years who routinely takes their passport out day to day walking about their daily business. (banking excepted obviously)

I really don't care what the Chief Immigration officer produced - my mate was taken to Lumpini police station along with about 15 others and I had to get his passport.  Maybe I shoulld have told the cops that I'd report them to their chief?

My passport was with me on several beaches in Koh Chang and Koh Kood just last week.

I don't remember claiming any laws state you must carry your passport so what are you banging on about?  I simply said what happened to a friend.

8 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

But coming here a stating that 18 year old girls are offering you to bang them is easy. Just to get up your wallet as they always want you to pay. Means you are buying sex, dude!

Another aspect that might make you think, but I think your way of normal thinking pattern is long gone. Do you have a wife? And would still bang an 18 year old that offered? In that case it says a lot about you, and I feel truly sorry for your wife. Also you might not be married and just what we call a sex tourist. In that case you have chosen to be alone and bang as much as you can. How about when you get really old? Maybe the last 10 years of your life. How will you feel sitting there alone, and have no one around you, no one to talk to. It will be very quiet and lonely, right

I don't remember saying that any 18 year olds have offered me anything.  What I said was if they did, I would.

No, I'm not married, not anymore.  If you want to call me a sex tourist, I'm fine with that.  You actually know nothing about my life but I see you regularly comment on other people's expoits as if they're some kind of pervert - you are clearly lacking in testosterone so you won't understand normal male sexual behaviour.

6 hours ago, brianthainess said:

this one.

Right, I wasn't aware of that line.  The Bangkok - Vientiane high speed line will not be ready for many years.  The Bangkok-Korat section is supposed to open in 2026 but if the M6 motorway (4 years late and counting) is anything to go by, that will be doubtful.

2 hours ago, Chivas said:

Anyone who carries their passport around with them 24/7 needs their head examining.

On the remote chance it happened to me I'd deal with the fallout thereafter.

 

Nobody whatsoever is being locked up indefinately until "someone goes and gets their passport"

Firstly, I have carried my passport with me for at least 25 years. Must remember to book am appointment to get my head examined.

Secondly, were you at one of those clubs at the time?  I can assure you that people were not being released until their passport was released - I should know as I had to go get my mates from his hotel room.

You seem to be having a problem using the quote facility.  After you've clicked quote and the box opens, just type under the quoted text. You don't have to write your reply in a separate post.

On 5/12/2024 at 8:19 AM, Chivas said:

Has anyone here solely walking around on foot every been approached by a random Police officer  ? (so not on motorbike car etc etc)

Yes. About 5 years ago there was a clamp down in Bangkok looking for overstayers, illegals etc. There were reports of people being stopped on the street in the Sukhumvit area for passport checks. I was in a taxi at the Asoke junction traffic lights when 2 coppers approached and asked to see my passport. 

As far as I can remember though, that's the only time I've been checked in 22 years.

There was also a time around 7 years ago when clubs in upper Sukhumvit were raided.  Those raids were targeted/drugs related though and not random passport checks. Both Thais and foreigners were subjected to urine tests. Any foreigner that couldn't provide a passport on the spot was locked up until someone could get their passport for them.

On 5/6/2024 at 4:01 PM, Gottfrid said:

Don´t care about that. Your friend is a loser that can´t find a women of his own age in his country. So, just have to travel to see poor young girl to fulfill his dreams. that´s the essence of a pervert.

Well there's a hell of a lot of us 'losers' then.

Would I want a relationship with an 18 year old?  Not a chance.

Would I bang an 18 year old that offered it? Absolutely!

You're welcome to as many women of your own age with boobs like envelope flaps and stretch marks as you can handle Mr Temple-goer. I'll stick to something that remains reasonably attractive.

7 hours ago, brianthainess said:

Laos is a very beautiful country and now with the Fast Train, overnight bus trips are now a 2hr train ride. The language is also understood by Thais.

Which Fast Train is that?

On 5/7/2024 at 4:05 AM, bkk_mike said:

Not the law. At least not for over 25 years.

I think you're misremembering when Thai females who married a foreigner and then were granted another nationality, lost their Thai nationality. (It was only women, not men, that this happened to.)

They tried to get Tiger Woods to apply for Thai nationality, and he refused because of how his mother had been forced to lose her nationality. So, I believe it was the 1997 constitution, got rid of that rule and Thais have had no problems with dual nationality since then. It didn't hurt that you also had one of King Bhumibol's daughters, literally a princess in the Thai royal family who married an American and whose kids had dual nationality.

No, I wasn't 'misremebering' anything. The rule did exist but as has been established in posts after mine, it was done away with.

On 5/11/2024 at 5:07 PM, snowgard said:

These companies are created just so farangs can own a house!!! They don't have a real business. That's why they are illegal!!! And the shareholders can withdraw the farang completely at any time if they want. Because they own 51% of the company!!!

And the farang can't even go to court without endangering himself.

Whilst I agree that using a Thai Limited Company to own land is against the law if the business is not actually trading and/or has no reason to own land, your statement is incorrect.  If the company is correctly structured and the Thai shareholders shares don't include voting rights, they cannot get rid of the foreign shareholding/directorship. The Thai shareholders though, may have to prove where they got the money from to buy the shares and that they bought them for investment purposes. Your wife's granny might have a problem claiming she's a legitimate investor.

There are several types of business where a company with foreign shareholding can own land legally - a property development/investment business for example.  A shophouse, used for a business that a foreigner is legally allowed to be involved in should also be OK.

However, I doubt that a Thai court would be convinced that a company owning just one piece of land/house and renting that out to a director was a legitimate property investment business. It all hangs on that word - circumvention.

They may exist but I'm yet to see an example of a Thai Limited Company with foreign control owning a piece of land legally when we are talking about single plots containing just one house. Most seem to be fake companies, submitting accounts and paying a little tax - as such I'm sure that each one of them is at risk if they are investigated.

What I find unfair, if its true, is that when such 'fake' companies are discovered, is that the penalty is forfeiture.  Deeming the ownership contravenes the Thai land laws and ordering the sale of the property would be a much fairer way of dealing with the matter.

Personally, I find the Thai land laws archaic and xenophobic, they cause lots of problems for married couples and should be reformed. I don't see why a foreigner married to a Thai can't own property but have to sell it within a set time should they divorce - much like the rules on what happens when a Thai wife dies and wills a property to a foreign husband.

16 hours ago, MangoKorat said:

The most serious side of owning through the property route is that the company must be trading and it must, if required, demonstrate a need to own property. 

That should of course say 'owning through the company route'.

On 5/9/2024 at 5:18 AM, Jenkins9039 said:

Not really.

 

Under Thai law, if you divorce your wife you / she gets 50% each.

Under Thai law - In court. The justice system here follows the law... no whims of a Thai in the court room... there's three judges for that reason.

 

Under Thai law if you use a company, it's 49% ownership opposed to 51%.

Its easy to see why people often do the wrong thing but think they've done the right one. That's why its wise to use a decent Thai lawyer rather than believe what you read on online forums.

'Under Thai law, if you divorce your wife you / she gets 50% each' - That is not correct. For example, if your wife owned the land or the house before your were married, you would only be entitled to 50% of any uplift in value since the date of your wedding.

'Under Thai law if you use a company, it's 49% ownership opposed to 51%' Potentially incorrect depending on the rules in play in your area. Some Land Offices will refuse to register a property in a company name if the foreign ownership is over 39% (and possibly other percentages).

The most serious side of owning through the property route is that the company must be trading and it must, if required, demonstrate a need to own property.  If that can't be proven, such ownership is in direct contravention of the Thai land laws as the company has clearly been set up in order to circumvent those laws. There is a specific clause in the laws regarding circumvention. 

Those who simply pay a book keeper to make up a set of fake accounts and pay a little tax each year for the 'company' that 'owns' the land, will always be at risk.

15 hours ago, MangoKorat said:

Whatever the reason for death or the man's background, I'm suprised that the Thai authorities consider it  OK to name him before they've contacted his family.

Why puzzled Mr Somebody?  Civilised countries don't release deceased's names until the family have been notified.  Would you like to find out your son was dead via a social media story?

11 hours ago, Korat Kiwi said:

I was glad when Thailand got rid of that bastard departure tax. What a pain that was. 

9 hours ago, dinsdale said:

As said before the airlines said NO last time. Do you think anything has changed? What about land border crossings? What about Thai nationals? What about people with work permits? What about people who have insurance already? I'm sure this list can be expanded. Are the airlines meant to sort this out? Simplistic, poorly thought out policies often have very complex implemenations. This is one of them and to say just add it to the ticket obviously is too simplistic. That's why it didn't happen before. 

As has already been stated, the departure tax was never 'got rid' of - it was transferred to the airlines who I guess will have added it to their ticket prices.

Whatever the reason for death or the man's background, I'm suprised that the Thai authorities consider it  OK to name him before they've contacted his family.

1 hour ago, Tropicalevo said:

I take it home and eat them. Only wash if visibly dirty.

 

Used to eat dirt as a kid and never washed my hands before a meal. But I do after using the bathroom.

You'd better be hoping that the Thai farm-workers that harvested your veg, also wash their hands after using the bathroom then. I'm sure they do though..........in those special handwashing sinks in the farm fields. The ones next to the mobile toilet blocks, have you seen them?

You can't even trust organically grown veg in Thailand. Its a few years back so I can't remember details but some group or other, not sure if they were official or an environmental group, tested 100 supposedly 'organically' grown vegetable samples from shops/markets around Bangkok. The vast majority had traces of harmful pesticides on them.

I'll be growing a lot of my own veg soon.

There you are @Goat - kind of debunks your claim that Brits doing wrong are 'protected' - clearly stated as a Brit.

Also:

https://aseannow.com/topic/1293784-naked-brit-smashes-beer-bottle-over-elderly-australian-tourist’s-head-in-pattaya/

Again, nationality clearly stated as British.

Do we know exactly what this criticism was?

3 hours ago, fulhamster said:

I have heard that the reason Thai houseowners / landlords won't do a TM30 is because they are scared of having to pay tax on the rental income.

I can't say I've heard that but I've long suspected it - especially since the announcment that many foreigners in Thailand will now have to file tax returns.   Reading through the details on that on this website, I was convinced that such landlords are trying to avoid tax.  There is a specific tax dealing with income from property - from memory, I believe its 12.5%.

3 hours ago, Liquorice said:

No, I never stated any such thing.

Right, I was just trying to understand the reason for your post.

3 hours ago, Liquorice said:

That is what you obviously named the document you downloaded.

It is simply the Thai Immigration Act (1979) which you can Google to download from a number of sources in both English and Thai.
Unfortunately most are downloaded as a pdf format, which apparently you can no longer post on AN, even though their own page on Laws, regulations, Police orders https://aseannow.com/topic/981135-laws-regulations-police-orders-etc/ are in pdf format.
Items 22 and 23 on the above link.

 

The only amendment to section 38 of the Immigration Act was the new TM30 regulations in relation to situations where a TM30 need not be filed.
It does not alter the persons(s) responsible to file a TM30.

New TM30 regulations listed item 30 from the above link.

Are you saying that a tenant or Usufruct holder cannot now register their own TM30?

9 hours ago, zzzzz said:

it is as simple as i posted as i registered as the house owner of the house i rent<
took all of 5 minutes 🙂

side note
One does NOT go into immigration with printed docs and tell them they are wrong!!!

It is clearly not as simple as you posted. Otherwise we would not have people posting on here (one quite recently) that they are having problems.  It was simple for you, it is clearly not as simple for everyone!

I have created this post to help the people that are having problems - if you don't need any help then you don't need to chirp in then do you?

As for immigration, well that's up to you and although I understand where you are coming from. I don't muck about with them.  My local office has been taken to court twice (possibly more now) and lost. Speak to Sebastian (formerly of Isaan Lawyers,now of Thai Law Online) if you don't believe that.

I would of course remain polite - which is probably why they backed down on this matter when I first applied to register TM30. I would not get into any heated argument with them but instead, leave it to my lawyer who has dealt with my local office many times. Thai's respond far better to Thai's, they won't have a foreigner telling them what to do but they will normally listen to a Thai who's on the same level of social standing. If not, court is an option but it would be a last resort.

If you cow tow to them when they are going against Police Orders, you make a rod for your back that you may have to live with forever.  There was a guy on here a couple of years back that cannot ever get his yearly extension done by his local office because he had an altercation with them. He didn't get a lawyer involved and now has to use another address and a different office for his extensions. 

Its about how you do it - I've been around Thailand long enough to know that you don't walk in to an Immigration office and simply tell them they are wrong.  You go through 'channels', my lawyer knows them but I'll admit that I am fortunate in that she aslo knows most of the staff at Korat Immigration.

1 minute ago, zzzzz said:

cant bother to read ur entire post but.....
1. if ur living there, you are the house master....... and ur landlord wont registrar you

you can do it yourself

Then maybe you should read the entire post because that's exactly what I'm saying.  However, it is not always as simple as you think it is.

Its quite clear from the posts I've seen on here that some people have problems getting their landlord to register TM30 and didn't know they are most likely able to register themselves.  Furthermore, members have reported that their immigration office would not accept them registering themselves.

Therefore, armed with the Thai version of the official document, they should be able to demonstrate to their local immigration office that they can indeed, register themselves.