MangoKorat

10 hours ago, Jack1988 said:

I do 2 border run. 30+30 extension at the local immigration. After that I do a few border runs. Total 4 months 

That is not a 4 or 6 month stay - its multiple stays. You are doing border runs. 

The way you wrote it appears to claim that you can stay 4 to 6 months without a visa.

10 hours ago, Captain Monday said:

I suggest the yellow book as proof of accommodations. Maybe I should just book a few days at Le Meridien Chiang Mai ? 
 

So, what is the definition of “live in Thailand”
I have always spent more time outside of Thailand with no multi month stays  except during 2021-2022. 

 

If tourists can’t own condos I wish they would not have flogged one off to me years ago.  Another time yes. Never heard of TM30 for the fist 7 years or so and nobody ever suggested I could not come to Thailand every other month visa exempt between overseas work rotations. It seems like things will only be getting worse. 
 

Captain Monday - “Constant International Travel”

Of course a tourist can own a condo but I don't know of any tourists that have a yellow book - there may be some.

When TM6's were handed out I just simply wrote my address in the pathetically small space.  I don't recall being asked where I'm staying (on entry) since they stopped handing out TM6's at the airport.

You can of course, show your Yellow Book - I just wouldn't tempt fate. Its totally unnecessary.

9 minutes ago, Jack1988 said:

It's not mandatory to get a proper visa if the intention is to stay in Thailand only for 4/6 months

Really?  How does someone stay that length of time without a visa? As far as I know, a 30 day exempt can be extended by 30 days or 60 days if you are married to a Thai. That would give 60 or 90 days max.  How does one stay for 120/180 days without a visa?

3 minutes ago, Jack1988 said:

Why it should be a problem if someone wants to come to Thailand every 6 months for example?

I've never heard of anyone being denied entry who has 6 months between visits. The ones that have reported denials usually have several exempt entries without much time between them.

I doubt you'll have a problem but I wouldn't recommend coming in visa exempt (a tourist) and showing your Yellow House Book.

Those that have reported being denied entry on exempts usually have far more exempt entries than you have and are suspected of working in Thailand or living there without the correct visa.  Showing your housebook is more likley to create suspicion, it will not make you more likely to gain entry.

Its normal for questions to be asked if you've previously had a long term visa. You simply state that the visa was for when you lived in Thailand but now you're a tourist.

4 hours ago, mommysboy said:

Nice to hear that he's made a good, though not unexpected, recovery.

Its amazing what a bit of fresh air can do..............................mind you, he won't find much of that in Chiang Mai at the moment.

A number of years ago, not long after TM30 registration became a requirement.  I had a real fight with Korat Immigration over the initial registration - purely because Immigration don't seem to understand that a Usufruct is not a lease, is not time limited and conveys much stronger rights than a lease.  They wanted to treat it as a lease and as such insisted that the registered owner conducted the TM30 registration.  They eventually backed down when I showed them the Chanotte for my property with my name and the Usfruct registration on the back.  However, I think they backed down because they were tired of arguing with me more than anything else.

I was out of the country for a long time due to Covid and when I next visited for any length of time I tried to log and got a message on the screen in Thai which I was told meant something like 'cancelled' so as I only stay a couple of weeks each trip, I didn't bother and haven't since.

I will be moving to live in Thailand later this year so I'm going to have to go through the process again - probably including the fight with Immigration over who can do the TM30 registration. When I did the original registration Korat insisted it was done in person but could be done online after that (when it worked).  My problem is that if they insist on the registered owner making the application and I can't persuade them otherwise - she lives 200km away!

She'd most likley give me her log in details so I could use it in the future but getting her there in the first place could be difficult. She's also a major dinosaur when it comes to using computers - she doesn't even have a smartphone. She also doesn't read Thai very well as her family were Khmer and I don't think she had much of an education. She does have a Thai ID card and owns other property so I have no worries about her legality but I would have to go to her with a laptop (and a translator) if Korat no longer require in person initial registrations.

A few years ago when the TM30 debate was at its height, I'm sure I read a quote from a high ranking I.O. where he was stating that he wasn't bothered if landlord or tenant completed the registration, it just needed doing - seemed sensible to me.  However, I've read reports on here since then where people have been told it must be their landlord but that's been for rented property. I'm also pretty sure I've seen people report that the website has been changed now and its much easier to use - correct? Is it still only in Thai language?

Just like to know other people's recent experiences on this - especially people using Korat Immigration who have a Usufruct.

On 1/6/2023 at 3:11 AM, webfact said:

There he bought two tins of baked beans, a loaf of bread and half a roast chicken.

Vital clues there, obviously.  The assailant must like Bean & Chicken sandwiches.

10 minutes ago, coolcarer said:

Note the title. Trigger

Is there any point in continuing this?  You have made your point quite clear, as have I.  It is for others reading this to decide whether they agree or not. I don't understand your views and you clearly don't understand my points.  I don't intend continuing this line of discussion as there is nothing more to say.

However, before we end this, I would like to set the record straight. You accused me of making a personal attack simply because I said you are living in your own world.  If you consider something so slight to be a slur, what is 'you and your mate' then?

1 minute ago, coolcarer said:

Note the title. Trigger

No. The title is Trigger a WORLD WAR.  Why is it then not legitimate to consider other conflicts between involved parties?

3 minutes ago, coolcarer said:

I thought the world war would depend on how Israel responds to this? Discuss. Zelensky may have some input on this too.

Let me give you some clues.

Who is Israel's main backer?

Who is Iran's main backer?

If it was 2 different parties, the conflict would probably remain 'local'.  As it is, it is all linked to a proxy war between 2 main players.

5 minutes ago, transam said:

Well, isn't it.....?  🤔

How would a war between Israel and Iran be a World War?

3 minutes ago, coolcarer said:

There you go again. 
 

How do you think Israel will react to this failed attempt by Iran. Ask Putin first though

Pointless discussing a potential World War with someone who thinks its only about the conflict between Israel and Iran.

10 minutes ago, coolcarer said:

If we were in a WW2 topic I would discuss that if I was interested in it. But I notice you have resorted to personal attacks now. Didn’t take long.

What personal attack?  You do appear to be living in your own world.  As Hummin so eloquently put it, you fail to see the bigger picture. That is blinkered....AKA your own world.

15 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Some have hard to see a bigger picture. 

Absolutely right! I just don't see how someone can misunderstand the meaning of World War. WW2 in the narrow view could be initially be seen as a war between the UK and Germany.  We all know that it was far more than that, in terms of how it developed and in simmering tensions in other areas beforehand.

Putin seems determined to get involved this time and as usual, is on the 'wrong side'.  A discussion regarding his war in Ukraine and his expansionist desires is totally relevant and not only because of the proxy war between the US and Russia - some people just can't see it.

1 minute ago, coolcarer said:

Your essay post was the Ukraine Russian war, stop being dishonest. Anyway your mate has gone now so you’ve got nobody left to speak to about other wars. 

Live in your own world buddy. Of course the war with Japan had nothing to do with WW2 according to your narrow mind.

3 minutes ago, coolcarer said:

The bit where you and your mate are only discussing Ukraine, Russia, Putin and Zelensky in the war over there. It got f all to do with what’s going on Between Hamas, Iran and Israel, a different war with its own numerous topics. Please don’t derail this one 

I repeat......The title is Iran Potentially Triggers World War 3.

The fact that you have difficulty understanding what that means and the implications of it does not make it off topic.

15 minutes ago, coolcarer said:

Yep, Iran, not Russia or Ukraine, or China, Taiwan, North Korea, turkey, NATO. 

Just as the war in Gaza is considered as a war with Iran through its Proxy, Hamas. The war in Ukraine is seen as a proxy war between Russia and the US.  Putin is now chipping in, warning the US and is a known supporter of Iran.

All these things are interlinked and intertwined - either in full view or behind the scenes.

Just now, coolcarer said:

Yep, Iran, not Russia or Ukraine, or China, Taiwan, North Korea, turkey, NATO. 

Which part of World War are you having difficulty with?

The conflict in the Middle East, if it was only the Middle East, would be unlikely to trigger a World War. Parties are getting involved that are already involved in other conflicts and what is going on between Iran (and its proxies) and Israel is very likely to affect the outcome of the Ukraine/Russia war as funds are clearly being diverted/reserved.

3 minutes ago, coolcarer said:

Can we bring China and North Korea into it too? Nah you are in the wrong topic, this is not about Ukraine and Russia.

The title is Iran Potentially Triggers World War 3 - note, World War.  A conflict purely in the Middle East would not be a World War.  Putin is involved with Iran, is making threats regarding the current situation and is at war himself.

5 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Unless I am mistaken I said no such thing. I do think the west encouraged Zelensky to bait the bear in hopes of punishing Putin without getting themselves involved- better for Ukrainians to die than Americans and all that.

I also think they underestimated Russia ( just like Napoleon and Hitler ), and have found themselves stuck in a war they can't afford, but can't let go of.

I just got that overall feeling based on your post.  As for letting go...........the Ukraine is in dire trouble right now and it is at serious risk of losing the war. That is entirely because its Western 'partners', especially the USA have let it down on supplies of weapons and equipment.  If we let that happen, all the supplies already sent and the lives lost, will have been in vain.

3 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

You do realise that "standing up" to them ( short of nuclear annihilation ) involves a lot of western boys coming home in bags, unless you know of a very large mercenary force that could be used instead, don't you?

Do you see an alternative? One that works over the long term?

1 minute ago, coolcarer said:

Think you and the other guy are in the wrong topic

The situation in the Middle East, Africa and Ukraine are all potential contributors towards triggering WW3.  Putin is heavily involved with and an ally of Iran.