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This clip perfectly shows the Zionist mindset. Daniella is told that International law and recently even President Trump do not support her plans for the annexation of and illegal settlement in Palestinian soil, so who is supporting her to take that land? Her answer: We got it from God. Asked about settler violence, she answered, there is no settler violence, there is violence against settlers. She is then shown a video of a recent incident, where you can clearly see settlers attacking Palestinians, one of them with a club, a wooden stick, about 3 feet long with a rock fixed to it at one end, like a stone axe, something you could easily kill someone with is attacking 2 elderly women, while the cameraman is shouting at him. She literally looked the other way and said "I don`t see it. You can show it to your audience. But I don`t see it." Asked again about her statement that there is no settler violence she repeats "No Sir, there is violence against settlers. No settler violence." THAT double standard is the typical Zionist mindset when supporting Israel and opposing Palestine. To wink at every atrocity Israel commits and act as if it never happened no matter how brutal but to profusely condemn any Palestinian reaction. And that mindset is the only thing I'm opposing and condemning since I started writing here. I have no dog in this fight. Neither am I Palestinian nor Israeli and truth to be told I do not understand how people in the 21st century still believe in those ancient myths created by shepherds. But I think that each one of us must become alert if this double standard mindset, where different people have different rights and are judged differently, depending on their race or religion, becomes popular and socially acceptable. Because THAT is exactly how it starts. Germans who lived 100 years ago were no morons. At that time Germany had more Nobel prizes than all the other countries combined most of them in physics or chemistry. So how could Hitler convince the masses, that antisemitism and racism are not only acceptable but necessary, if Germans want to survive? When I see all this anti-Muslim and anti-foreigner sentiment in Europe and the US raising and by now even being supported by our leaders, shivers run down my spine, as I never imagined history would repeat in my lifetime. Interestingly almost every Muslim hater personally never had any negative experience with Muslims.

That question is easy to answer. Chosen people exist only in the Jewish religion which says, surprise surprise , the Jews are the chosen people. The more important question is, chosen for what? And when I look at the history and what they tell about themselves and how they have been treated through the Millennia only one thing comes to my mind, which they might be chosen for. To be the living proof for that famous sentence Albert Einstein actually never said Madness is to repeat the same action again and again and expect different results.

There is one question from the pro Israelis which has come up repeatedly: They say, there are so many genocides, some of them even taking place right now and some even on a bigger scale compared to Gaza, so why is everybody only criticizing Israel? Why is nobody asking about Sudan or Yemen? I think this is a fair question and same as others I have answered in the past by saying that my country is not funding those genocides and not sending weapons to those who perpetrate it. My country's media are not reporting in favor of the perpetrators, and my country`s leaders are not siding with the perpetrators. But I think the most important point has somehow not been mentioned yet: Because in all the other cases we wouldn't be discussing who is right and who is wrong. When I see all the different threads in here and the different opinions in them which are so far away from each other, I wonder how this is possible. Assuming that most of us have been raised in the West and have been taught western morals and ethics (I have lived in the Middle East for a couple of years and most of you would be surprised that they actually have the same morals and ethics) and use the same moral compass to judge the actions of the conflicting parties by asking, who is the invader, and who the invaded, who is the robber and who is the robbed, who is the main aggressor and who is the main victim of those aggressions, which side is harming civilians more, especially those most vulnerable like children, elderly and women which side is the stronger one, which side follows international law, which side informs the world more honestly and finally who started the whole thing. I'm sure if the conflict between Israel in Gaza would have taken place in a different area on our planet, let`s say Africa and it would be between Zimbabwe and Botswana, with Zimbabwe doing what Israel did and Botswana doing what Gaza did in the last decades, there would be no discussion and not such a huge number of threads with members sometimes getting carried away and acting agitated. Because we would agree on most points. So why is it that some people use a completely different moral compass and double standard to judge the conflicting parties when it comes to Israel and the Palestinians

This one clearly shows Daniella`s opinion about the value of human beings depending on their race/religion. Just a little data about her: She is an Israeli far-right Orthodox Zionist, founder of Nachala, an Israeli settler organization, and a former mayor of Kedumim, which is, like all Israeli settlements in the West Bank, illegal under international law. She was first elected mayor of Kedumim in September 1996, and was re-elected for a second term in November 2001 through 2007. Weiss' organization, Nachala, has been involved in at least one killing. She was sanctioned by Canada in June 2024 for violence against civilians in the West Bank and by the United Kingdom in May 2025. Her early life is a textbook example of how to raise a terrorist: Born in Bnei Brak, Mandatory Palestine, in 1945. Her father (US) and her mother (Poland) were Jewish immigrants, they were members of Lehi, a Zionist paramilitary terroristorganization, and took part in underground activities. She attended a religious high school in Ramat Gan. Since the 1970s, Weiss was in the Gush Emunim settlement movement, active in the establishment of many new settlements in the West Bank and later became secretary-general of Gush Emunim. In 2010, she founded the Nachala Settlement Movement, which aims to establish new illegal Israeli settlements in the West Bank. Weiss served as the mayor of Kedumim between 1996 and 2007. Here a list of her peaceful achievements: - led a vigilante group on a shooting and rock-throwing rampage through the Palestinian town of Qalqiliya (1987) - assaulting a police officer 2007 - assaulting a police officer and interfering with a police investigation (2008) - when police found a vehicle belonging to arsonists in front of Weiss's home, she came out and began to touch the vehicle multiple times - then she lay under another parked car and when officers attempted to arrest her for obstruction, she began to kick and hit the officer (2009) Yeah, perfect candidate for the Nobel Peace Prize. At least in a world upside down like ours right now, where the legitimate resistance of an occupied people is called terrorism, where the killing of maybe 100.000 people, the destruction of almost every building and the intentional execution of children, aid workers, journalists, and medics in world record numbers and the shooting of starving people queuing for food is called self-defense. And in a forum where most members have some connection, more likely an affection to Thailand or/and other South East Asian countries and visit regularly or even live there permanently, maybe even have a local partner for life and therefore were granted the occasion to get to know a completely different people with a completely different history, religion, mentality and culture but finally will inevitably learn that no matter how different people on our planet are, we always have much more in common and share the same basic goals in life which is to provide a good life in safety, justice, harmony and prosperity for ourselves and our families. Yet some people fail to understand that this goal can only be achieved when everybody is allowed to have that kind of life and not by applying double standards and providing a life worth living to one people while depraving another people from their basic rights and justifying it with mind gymnastics. That will inevitably lead to frustration in one side, resulting in aggression and counter aggression and end in catastrophe, like on October 7 and the 2 years since.

Absolutely. Not to forget, they are the world`s leading land grabbers. And have a decade long expertise in organ theft. https://novaramedia.com/2025/10/29/israeli-military-accused-of-palestinian-organ-theft-again/ How dare these primitive Palestinians to oppose the oppression and land plus organ theft. They should be proud to be chosen by the chosen people. The audacity.

"Imminent threat" is what they often say, when justifying the murder of innocent civilians, same as "human shields". The kids in the car of Hind Rajab`s family were probably imminent threats too and when by some miracle 5-year-old Hind survived and called her mother, begging for her life, despite giving permission to health workers, the IDF went back and executed that little girl and the 2 help workers. I`m sure, she was secretly building some Hamas command center under that car. Nevertheless, EVERY single incident MUST be diligently analyzed, every perpetrator must be brought to The Hague and face justice. We, the West have failed all those murdered children, every single one of them, but we must not fail our moral and justice and investigate every single war crime. Because if we don`t, our credibility and trustworthiness will be forever lost in the eyes of the world.

Ah, don`t worry, Israel will pay Billions of reparations to the Gaza Holocaust survivors. Because they got and still get Billions of reparations from Germany every year since about 80 years.

I`ve seen a few clips from him on YouTube. He is a bright young mind gymnast with an innocent face who perfectly combines accusations with slogans and adds some facts to prove them. "The whole protest movement is not about Palestine, it’s about the protesters themselves. They don’t want to understand the conflict — they want to feel good about themselves." How do you know the psyche of the protesters? Maybe it is you who doesn't want to understand the protests because they are against the mass murder of Palestinians, an ugly truth you refuse to accept and are in a constant state of denial. “They are a hate movement and part of a century old movement - the anti-Zionist movement that has always used libels to demonize Jews.” I doubt that any of those students ever saw himself as part of an ancient anti-Jewish movement. This sounds more like a conspiracy theory to me. “You can see the hatred in every move they make. Even now. They called for a ceasefire - and when there is a ceasefire, the violent demonstrations continue, and Jews are attacked and murdered.” The reason they keep demonstrating even in case of a ceasefire is not hatred but simply the fact that a ceasefire is not their only goal and that they want Israel to stop murdering Palestinians permanently. There have been a few violent clashes between pro-Israel and pro-Palestinian demonstrators but as far as I know the only 2 Jews who almost have been murdered were shot at 17 times by another Jew, Mordechai Brafman, 27, in Miami who thought they were Arabs. “But by accusing Israel of the gravest imaginable crimes — genocide, apartheid and ethnic cleansing — they make it easier to ignore the real crimes of the Palestinians the absence of democracy, freedom of speech, and freedom of religion.” Perfect example of blame shifting: Israel is only accused of genocide, apartheid and ethnic cleansing but the real crimes are happening in Palestine because there is no democracy and no freedom of speech or religion. Israel is not only accused for that, almost every human rights organization plus the International Association of Genocide Scholars have said that Israel is de facto committing all these crimes. But of course, these accusations are not made because they are true, no they are only made to distract from the real crimes in Palestine - what a crap. “During the war in Gaza, terrible things happened around the world. In Syria and Yemen, children are literally dying of hunger. Jihadist militias in Africa are slaughtering tens of thousands of Christians. There’s mass killing in Sudan. Every example I’ve given is many times larger than what happened in Gaza — but nobody cares.” And why is that? Are our countries supporting the killers in Sudan or the jihadists in Africa? Do those murderers have unregistered lobby organizations in our countries who are bribing our politicians and our governments? Do those jihadists destroy our freedom of speech and make our juristic system deport people just because they were against the killing of children? Were those Tens of thousands of Christians murdered by weapons from our countries? Do those jihadists turn our moral compass upside down so that we see ethnic cleansing and the murder of 20.000 children as self-defense? But this guy has his own explanation for this phenomenon: “Because again, it’s not about Israel and it’s not about the Palestinians — it’s about the protesters’ emotions: their anger, their guilt, their inner conflicts.” No, those protests have nothing to do with the ongoing slaughter of women, children, men, journalists, medics, the destruction of almost every building, the execution of help workers and the target practice with kids. It`s just because those protesters are “ding dong” as they say in Thailand. What a magnificent diagnosis.

No, I never met him. Seriously, you are the one who has 3 times in a row failed to understand the difference between a fictional story created to explain "outrageous use of force in self-defense" calling it "make believe" and in your world I am the one hallucinating on a LSD trip?

I personally think the Palestinians have won or at least their cause has won. Because for the first time in history at least a little part of the ugly truth has been revealed. I was never much interested in politics and as a German born in the 60ies I was taught at school that Jewish people had been pushed around, treated badly and sometimes killed for many centuries with the worst crimes against Jews being committed by us in the Holocaust therefore we have a lifelong duty that such a thing will never happen again – ever. After the Holocaust Jews from all over the world moved to the Middle East where their ancestors had been living and finally a people without a land found a land without a people, created Israel, build their Kibbutzim and lived in peace and harmony. Occasionally, I heard about some conflict between Israel and neighboring countries, and I always asked myself why they cannot just leave Israel alone. The version of the world I grew up with , were we, the West, including Israel are the goodies, while the baddies in the East, were living miserable lives due to their communism and were later replaced by the radical Muslims who were even more miserable and hated us for our freedoms and justice, started having it`s first cracks when we went to war with Iraq, killing more than a Million, while looking for weapons of mass destruction which we knew, Saddam did not have and even if, would never pose a threat to us. A few years later there were news about the IDF attacking boats of a flotilla carrying humanitarian aid and even killing 9 people on international waters. I am not sure what shocked me more, the deadly attack itself or the fact that our media and politicians were siding with Israel. I also noticed that people would react almost aggressively when a discussion came up and I dared to criticize Israel for the illegal attack on international waters. Nobody would engage in a discussion; everybody would just shout me down with the usual slogans: “Israel has the right to defend itself. Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East. Blabla”. But to be honest it was because of the different forums and the way some pro-Israel members tried to silence the few pro Palestine members, that I really started to educate myself and finally come to a personal opinion based on the facts I learned and my support for equal justice, which can never be double standard. And one thing is more than clear: for the first time since the creation of Israel practically the whole world took notice of it and realized what it truly is and things you have seen like the atrocities committed by the IDF and the 10s of thousands of dead children and many other things can never be unseen. The world has seen the actions of Israel and at the same time has heard the ridiculous arguments, with which Israel kept trying to justify their atrocities and realized the lies we have been brainwashed with by our leaders and our media for such a long time, and how Israel controls our media and our leaders. Those of us who understand the gravity and the future impact on our society, if we allow our countries to be ruled by a foreign entity, which also corrupts our basic morals, principles and laws and our sense for right and wrong and justice, are in shock but will sooner or later act for example by not voting for any candidate who has ever taken money from AIPAC or by demanding AIPAC to be registered according to FARA and many other steps like questioning the Billions send to Israel very year. Yet those of us who are too comfortable to step out of their echo chamber and still leave the thinking to others, who mainly present a very easy picture of the world, where we and our allies are the good and the rest of the world are the bad, especially when they are having beards and dark hair, will keep defending that state which is sucking our finances dry, which is much more of a parasite than a symbiont and controls our leaders.

Thank you very much.

Of course not, Israel has broken pretty much every ceasefire with ridiculous justifications. And how many soldiers did they kill or kidnap since the ceasefire. The IDF says 1 but somehow did not identify him. But as usual they responded with typical bravery killing more than 100 Palestinians most of them women and children. And the West keeps justifying that with wrong information or juridical and moral explanations which are so distorted and upside down they give you goosebumps.

Ok, I get it that you don`t get the difference between make believe and a fictional situation describing outrageous use of force in self-defense, which is then by definition no self-defense but a brutal, unlawful and criminal assault. The question no Pro Israeli could answer me until today: How can you condemn the killing of less than 1200 when you then go and kill more than 60.000? How can anyone justify that? Plus the destruction of most buildings, the murder of medics and journalists in numbers higher than any known conflict same as the killing of 20.000 children. The IDF could until now not deliver any proof for that human shield accusation. However the IDF itself has been using Palestinian civilians for human shields for decades. https://www.btselem.org/human_shields here is an easier to understand version I can`t as I would be arrested by the police in my home country which has the freedom of speech in it`s basic law but does not respect it, when it comes to Israel, which somehow has completely corrupted our values. Instead of telling me which flag I should wave, you might want to check if yours is still the right one, when the government of your country or if you`re not US citizen the government of your strongest ally is run by a foreign entity which made their own interests the number 1 priority of US politics. THAT should worry you and not which flag I am waiving.

You never answered these ones (particularly Nr. 10 is important to me and my mental health):

I do. Except maybe example 3. No one can foresee Israel's policy in 10, 50 or 100 years yet it implies Israel's policy can never be compared to Nazi policy. For me anti-semitism is any kind of accusing or condemning or even having prejudice towards Jews as a collective. Accusing or condemning single Jews or a jewish government for wrongdoings they clearly have commited and are not just made up is not anti- semitism. Same goes for siding with victims of those wrongdoings.

You do realize that I was just giving a hypothetical example for your view on justice and not trying to make you believe it, don`t you? Would you accept that kind of reaction of that fictional neighbor, just because "he always does that"? And after Hamas` attack on October 7 Israel did not kick exclusively their asses but also the asses of 40.000 innocent women and children. I don`t know why they execute their own people right now, probably collaborators and traitors. But Israel was intentionally shooting children in the head, chest and abdomen and that is something completely different.

One of the biggest scams to justify ethnic cleansing. Who is "they"? Some Jews moved away from that place, and settled in Africa, the Mediterranean and Europe. Many married locals and mixed with their DNA pool. Many people converted to Judaism like the Turkish Khazars. What is interestingly never mentioned, is that MOST Jews stayed in the Levant, later converted to Christianity and after that to Islam, just to make life easier. DNA tests have proven on many occasions that Palestinians have more Hebrew DNA than Israelis especially the Ashkenazys. However all this happened in many centuries but now all of a sudden, some people from Europe, who claim to be Jewish but look nothing like Jews were described in ancient books (olive skin, dark curly hair) move over, and state that is their homeland. What a BS. And the western countries like Germany and the US fully support that. Great! Move back from US to Europe because that continent is definitely NOT your homeland. No? Double standard in perfection.

EXACTLY!

I somehow have the feeling that you would not react in the same way, if that kind of justice would be applied to you one day. If for example you would have an argument with your neighbor because he blocked your way out of your house by parking in front of it and you would slap him in the face and as a reaction he would beat the living excrements out of you, your wife and children putting all of you into ICU yet calling it self-defense. And then someone states "Boo Hoo! You brought that on yourself. You knew he was stronger than you and had anger issues." Would that be ok?

EXACTLY! Israel`s love for the Gazans went so far that since it became "independent" they "put them on a diet" which means they only let enough food in to cause hunger but avoid starvation so that they would not get too fat and develop obesity and they also reduced the supply of fuel and electricity", and to "restrict the movement of people to and from the Gaza Strip" and cause "No prosperity, no development, no humanitarian crisis.” as a senior official in Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s right-wing government purportedly once confided to a UN official ... to protect their environment from pollution and help them to live a life in harmony with nature. They even helped them with the maintenance of their gardens in order to keep Gaza beautiful when they went over to "mow the lawn" once in a while. Mowing the grass (Hebrew: כיסוח דשא) is a metaphor used to describe periodic Israeli attacks on the Gaza Strip to manage the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. During such attacks, Israel targeted Palestinian militants, Palestinian civilians, and the civilian infrastructure of the Gaza Strip. How does anyone dare criticize Israel. Okay, the tongue in my cheek starts hurting now.

Other than you neither am I biased nor do I see the conflict through Zionistic glasses, which filter out all the Israeli atrocities and crimes against humanity and abominations against children and obviously also those many questions I asked you which remain unanswered. And once again I want to remind you that I am not qualified to answer your question, so all I can do is give you my personal opinion: Yes, on October 7 in the year 2023, Hamas committed crimes, which can be described as genocidal. Same as what Israel is doing since then almost every day.

Your assumption is based on the article from 2009 you posted and I do not think that this "One of Britain's most eminent historians, Andrew Roberts" is more than a bribed pro Israeli spokesperson and a liar in disguise of a scientist and historian. In one of his books he attacked those who accuse Israel of responding "disproportionately" to provocation "as though proportionate responses ever won any victories against fascists. In the Second World War, the Luftwaffe killed 50,000 Britons in the Blitz, and the Allied response was to kill 600,000 Germans - 12 times the number and hardly a proportionate response, but one that contributed mightily to victory". He compares the attacks on Hezbollah in Lebanon with WW II, and plays the old and still stupid game of comparing the number of deaths in Israel by putting it in relation to the 9 times larger population in the UK and as usual completely forgetting who is the occupier (perpetrator) and who the occupied (victim). Comparing 2 completely different conflicts. Might convince a child. Well, he spoke in front of 400 guests same as Netanjahu spoke in front of the US congress lying to their faces that there were only 2 dozen civilian victims in Rafah and was rewarded with more than 50 standing ovations. And he called the Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the perhaps Jewry's most viciously outspoken and dangerous foe since the death of Hitler, Which is absolute nonsense and typical for those Israel defenders to demonize opponents by telling lies. And in this case intentionally mistaking anti-zionism with anti-semitism, a behavior we see too often these days, also here in the forum. If he really was Jewry's most viciously outspoken and dangerous foe since the death of Hitler, how come there were and still are Thousands of Jews living in Iran and worshipping in their synagogues. And finally, whatever the Queen did or didn`t say does not change the atrocities we see every day in Gaza.

I doubt, that the Palestinians do only offer the mass murder of Israelis. They have repeatedly confirmed, that they would accept an Israel in the borders before 1967. Despite this common disinformation "the Palestinians have been offered peace and their own state many times, but they always refused and chose violence" still being believed by those with a blind eye for Israels crimes, the truth is, in the first decades when peace conferences took place the Palestinians weren`t even allowed, let alone invited. And those "generous" offers were always something like: "We keep what we stole, take a bit more, you get your "state" which we will totally control, so it is more an excuse of a state. " So that might have led to the Palestinian "medieval and barbaric intolerance" as you name it. The question remains what is the excuse for the "medieval and barbaric behavior" and contempt for humanity not to speak of moral bankruptcy we have seen in the last 2 years is from Israel? They really have turned into the monsters which once erased their ancestors.

Summary: End of 19th century in the time of the Ottoman Empire Jewish families "acquired" that land, probably bought it, it`s former owners unknown. The owners left because of the 1948 war. It became part of Jordan and belonged to Jordan, same as huge parts of former Palestine mandate became part of Israel and the few Arabs, only 750.000 were driven out and lost their homes 28 Palestinian refugee families arrived and Jordan agreed to revoke their refugee status under the condition that they build those homes, which they will legally own after 3 years, which would be 1959. Those 28 families built these homes (Sorry, your description was a bit confusing, "the homes were built in exchange for a revocation of their refugee status" somehow misses the part, where those families built the homes.) Israel stole ... err .. occupied that land 11 years after those families had built the homes. Israel made their theft legal in 1980. And some Jews bought it. Ok, not the guy with the high BMI stole it, Israel did. How much compensation for the loss of the houses they had built, did the Arabs get from Israel?

You are awesome! You completely dodge my points, by stating unfounded accusations (I was not quoting you, when I wrote dumb. I was just "agreeing" with you in an ironic way), and masterfully making my questions about all the Israeli atrocities or those 27 other organizations accusing Israel of genocide look unimportant and not worth answering to and brilliantly turn the table on me "Why did you always have to lie ...) You should organize courses and teach. You might get rich with that. Cours A: How to win an argument, when caught cheating by your wife? "You perv. How could you do this to me? You slept with your secretary." "How do you know?" "My friend Sandy saw both of you walking out of that Love Hotel. Laughing and Hugging." "And? That is no proof. We were on our way back from the congress when she had to pee." "You had lipstick on your mouth." "So what, I forgot my lip balm and she borrowed me her lipstick." "And on your zipper." "Yeah, that bloody thing jammed. So I used her lipstick to unstuck it." "Sandy heard you called her "Darling". "That is a lie, I`d called her "sweetheart" and not "Darling" "So you admit it?" "Not at all, I have just proven that your friend Sandy is a liar." "What are you talking about?" "Sandy said I called her Darling while in truth I called her Sweetheart." "And?" "So Sandy has lied. Sie is a liar. Most likely everything else she said is a lie too." Wrong! The international legal definition of genocide has not been redefined, it remains consistent with the 1948 Genocide Convention and is defined as acts committed with the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial, or religious group. However, the interpretation of the definition has evolved, particularly in academic and social circles, with scholars proposing broader, more complex sociological definitions and new legal arguments, especially regarding intent. Because Israel was arguing, that in their case there was no proof of intent like that of the Nazis, who clearly wrote down their intentions and plans. A weak argument, as probably not many terror states will write their intention of genocide down and even sign it. And when Netanjahu/Mileikowski and his generals were saying, when they started their Campaign on Gaza "this will be another Amalek," (remark: this is NOT an exact quote) where God has allegedly told the Israelites to Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass. And when he looked on Amalek, he took up his parable, and said, Amalek [was] the first of the nations; but his latter end [shall be] that he perish for ever. Sounds pretty much genocidal to me. Except that "ass" thing, which I cannot get my head around.