Georgealbert

Another rant and again no acceptance it was the Trump administration that allowed Boeing to escape their responsibilities. The DoJ was ready to prosecute before the administration handed them the DPA. But that does not fit your conspiracies and does not fit your political agenda, as you are blinded by your hero worship. I will now stop replying to you two, as all you are doing is hijacking the thread.

When ever have I said I was A EV supporter, I believe in facts and research, not conspiracies from unqualified, inexperienced people with no understanding.

Links I have already posted in this thread. Fire safety. https://textechindustries.com/blog/how-do-you-extinguish-a-lithium-battery-fire/ EV fire research https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10694-023-01473-w https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0379711223000978 NFPA EV response guides. https://www.nfpa.org/education-and-research/emergency-response/emergency-response-guides#aq=%40culture%3D"en"&cq=%40taglistingpage%3D%3D("EV Guides") &numberOfResults=12&sortCriteria=%40title ascending Car park fire reports https://www.bafsa.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/bsk-pdf-manager/2018/12/Merseyside-FRS-Car-Park-Report.pdf http://www.diva-portal.org/smash/get/diva2:1507286/FULLTEXT01.pdf Safety for emergency responders at electric vehicle https://www.evfiresafe.com Bodies covered in those links, are easy to find, but let me make it simple. Australian Department of Defence - http://www.defence.gov.au/ NFPA - https://www.nfpa.org/ AFAC (Australasian Fire Agencies Council) - https://www.afac.com.au/ 4. NFCC UK (National Fire Chief Council) - https://nfcc.org.uk/ 5. Fire Technology - https://link.springer.com/journal/10694 6. SFPE (The Society of Fire Protection Engineers) - https://www.sfpe.org/home 7. Fire Safety Journal - https://www.sciencedirect.com/journal/fire-safety-journal 8. RISE Research Institutes of Sweden - https://risefr.com/ 9. Lund University, Sweden - https://www.lu.se/ 10. IFE - https://www.ife.org.uk/

You clearly fail to recognise in yourself that when you have no knowledge or understanding of the subject, it requires intelligence and intellectual capability to know and understand your own limit and capabilities. But you choose to continue blindly down your own rabbit hole, solely based on your conspiratorial tunnel vision and opinions. It is sad, but your own paranoid vision of reality and hatred, has blinked you from the truth and facts. Bye and have a good day, and remember your arrogance is a pool disguise of your total ignorance.

And how does that contradict any of the research studies I posted?

Governor of Bangkok, Chadchart Sittipunt, visited the scene and confirmed the station was safe to re-open following the fire.

This video shows the start of the fire. It was seen by the 7/11 staff, it was not in their shop, but possibly in one of the covered, open air stalls opposite. Video.mp4

Some previous details on this thread. https://aseannow.com/topic/1331164-fire-at-airport-link-station/

Emergency services were notified of a train fire at the Cho Thavee Company, located in Mueang Kao Subdistrict. Fire trucks were dispatched and upon arrival, responders found a train on fire. The firefighting team, in collaboration with the Mueang Kao Subdistrict Municipality’s prevention department, successfully contained the blaze within a limited area and extinguished it. Approximately 70% of the train was damaged by the fire, but there were no injuries reported. Pictures from responders.

There was a official statement from the Governor of Bangkok, Chadchart Sittipunt after he had visited the incident site and spoke with the station master. The governor confirmed that the station itself has not sustained any damage but remains closed to the public for safety reasons. He advised the public to temporarily use the nearby Hua Mak and Makkasan stations instead. The situation is under control, and authorities are ensuring all safety measures are adhered to before reopening the station.

This is another video of the fire from Bright News, sorry commentary is in Thai.

Statement issued, by Airport Rail Link, at 09.00 that the station is now open.

Initial reports suggest that the fire started in the convenience store, before spreading.

July 1, 2024, at approximately 04:30, the Chale Radio Center received a report of a fire at the Ramkhamhaeng Airport Rail Link station area on Ramkhamhaeng Road in Suan Luang, Bangkok. Firefighters from the Huamark Fire and Rescue Station rushed to the scene to find a fire engulfing nearby shops and a convenience store adjacent to the station's staircase. The firefighters managed to extinguish the blaze, and fortunately, no injuries or fatalities were reported. The cause of the fire is currently under investigation. The Airport Rail Link's official page posted a notice informing passengers of the incident: "Dear passengers, due to a fire near Ramkhamhaeng station, this station is temporarily closed for safety reasons. Other stations remain open as usual. Station staff will assist passengers in using alternative public transportation. We are supporting the fire department at the scene and monitoring the situation. The station will reopen once it is safe. We apologize for any inconvenience caused." Bangkok Governor Chadchart Sittipunt visited the scene and confirmed that the station itself was not damaged by the fire. However, it remains closed to ensure passenger safety. He advised passengers to use nearby stations, Huamark and Makkasan, temporarily. https://workpointnews.com/around/news/NEPXEQF

So you have lost the debate and have resulted to name calling again. I have posted real facts and given opinions based on years of real life knowledge, experience, training and qualifications, where all you have done is ranted, about something you clearly do not understand and have no experience. The difference between me and you is I am not suffering alethophobia.

All the professional bodies I listed above have been part of the research, that I have also posted in this thread. Each organisation have their own website

Sorry I have no idea what you are talking about, your last link was to Ev Firesafe,, which I quoted, posted an image from and linked previously. I have read all the EV Firesafe information, and unlike you, I have the knowledge, capability and experience to really understand it Please tell me how, as a UK citizen I am deeply ensconced with the the Australian government? You clearly have the delusion that yelling your conspiracy opinions into the internet actually make a difference rather than the false background noise it really is. Bye and try to have a good day in you alternative reality

Boeing Agrees to Buy Spirit Aero for $4.7 Billion in Stock Deal, https://finance.yahoo.com/news/boeing-agrees-buy-spirit-aero-224442909.html

The Justice Department is planning to charge Boeing with fraud after prosecutors said the company failed to implement an agreed upon anti-fraud compliance program following two fatal Max 8 crashes. The Justice Department will reportedly give Boeing until the end of the week to decide if it will plead guilty or face a trial. A plea deal would reportedly involve a monitor being appointed to supervise Boeing’s compliance with fraud laws. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/us-wants-boeing-plead-guilty-201111812.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9oeXBlLmFlcm8v&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAGaUEtLTxmZ2yYctjjEnBfyUrSxByJAMySx1iLxjHz96Sd0jCeV4Te3oC-zWER6ihzwRtz7TxRQIDUjOxIYDrcH2GUjlfEe6Ykkdn9W4ewAZNLaieDlIlHFUnCsBq5FlLsaPdbyZdoio4b33QXWS8DIw0fGbxGW6dsvFcH4vjnU4

My sources are from professional bodies, those involved in the fire industry. The research is done to improve the safety of emergency responders and has been accepted worldwide and used to produced responders guidance and safety procedures.. So do you really think the NFPA (National Fire Protection Association) is not a credible source? My source is corroborated by the organisation that support the findings and were in involved in the research. 1. Australian Department of Defense. 2. The NFPA is a U.S based international nonprofit organisation devoted to eliminating death, injury, property, and economic loss due to fire, electrical, and related hazards. 3. AFAC (Australasian Fire Agencies Council) is the National Council for fire and emergency services in Australia and New Zealand, creating synergies across the emergency management sector. 4. NFCC UK (National Fire Chief Council) is an independent membership association and the professional voice of UK fire and rescue services. 5. Fire Technology is a leading research journal dedicated to resolving problems in fire safety and fire engineering. 6. SFPE )The Society of Fire Protection Engineers) a prominent professional organisation which represents professionals working in the field of fire protection and fire safety engineering. 7. Fire Safety Journal, an international journal devoted to research on Fire Safety Science and Engineering. 8. RISE Research Institutes of Sweden, Department of Fire and Safety, 9. Lund University, Sweden, Division of Fire Safety Engineering. 10. IFE, The Institution of Fire Engineers (IFE) is a global professional membership body for those in the fire sector that seek to increase their knowledge, professional recognition and understanding of fire. (I hold Member grade membership which for individuals who hold a Level 4 Diploma or equivalent and have been working within the fire sector for at least five years) Real professional bodies that know a lot more than me, and certainly you.

You just posted a link to a general web site that contains the words you wanted to hear, not a professional fire organization. I posted links to the scientific research and full scale testing, from professional bodies, which is supported by the NFPA (National Fire Protection Association). I am sorry if you fail to identify the difference, all I do is post real facts, I clearly can not help you understand those facts. You also seem to have lost your argument, as you are now forced to name calling, as you clearly have no knowledge, training, qualifications or experience on the subject of car fires. Here is a another image for you, from EV FireSafe, which is a private company that received funding from the Australian Department of Defense to research electric vehicle high voltage battery fires & emergency response, particularly where the EV is connected to energized charging. This company has produced world-leading research & SME knowledge is referenced by the Australasian Fire Agencies Council, National Fire Chief's Council (UK), National Fire Protection Association (US) & various EV manufacturers such as Tesla. The link was posted previously.

Thai media report Authorities have apprehended a deputy civil engineer assistant from the Thanto Subdistrict Administrative Organisation (SAO) in Yala Province. He is suspected of being involved in the recent bombing of a police barracks in Bannang Sata District. CCTV footage has played a crucial role in identifying the suspect connected to the bombing incident. The vehicle used in the attack was found to be an official vehicle belonging to the Thanto SAO. Further investigation into the vehicle led to the suspect, who is employed as a deputy civil engineer assistant in Thanto SAO’s civil engineering division. Background checks revealed that the suspect's wife is a cousin of Wa-Uthman Waemong, a person wanted under an arrest warrant issued under the Criminal Procedure Code. Authorities have utilised their powers under the Martial Law Act to detain the suspect, Mr. Mustofa, and have sent him to the interrogation center for further legal proceedings. Video of the suspect parking the car. https://fb.watch/t1zBrOpY7e/?

Thai media update. “Surveillance footage shows the assailants executing the bombing in just 10 minutes. The perpetrators stole a blue, four-door Toyota pickup truck (license plate GKH 3320 Betong) from Thanto District. The truck belonged to the Thanto Subdistrict Administrative Organisation. The vehicle was loaded with an improvised explosive device (IED) consisting of a 15-16 kg gas cylinder, steel rods, and approximately 80 kg of explosives. Two fuel canisters were also placed inside the truck. Upon reaching the police flats, the suspect parked the truck and was picked up by an accomplice on a motorcycle. The accomplice, dressed in black with an orange under shirt, wore a black helmet to conceal their identity. The motorcycle fled the scene, and the bomb detonated about 10 minutes later. Investigations by security forces revealed that the truck traveled from Sri Bang Lang Road, passing through a checkpoint in Ban Kasod, Bannang Sata District, at around 09:40. The truck was parked at the police flats at 10:13. The explosion claimed the life of Mrs. Rokiyah Sarana, a 45-year-old religious teacher from Kampong La Lae Mosque, who was riding a motorcycle past the truck at the time of the blast. The explosion injured 34 others.” https://workpointnews.com/around/news/NXE4NME

Translation of Thai media report. “Bomb Explosion in Bannang Sata Leaves One Dead and 18 Injured. On June 29, at 10:23, the Bannang Sata Police Station received a report of a bomb explosion in front of the police flats in the Bannang Sata Municipality, Bannang Sata District, Yala Province. Upon receiving the report, Police Colonel Ronnan Surawit, Superintendent of Bannang Sata Police Station, along with Police Lieutenant Colonel Worawit Na Nakorn, Bannang Sata District Chief Chaowalit Sitthirith, administrative officers, military officers from the 30th Ranger Regiment, firefighters, and rescue teams, arrived at the scene. Initial investigations revealed that the explosion resulted in one fatality and 18 injuries, including eight police officers and ten civilians, all of whom sustained minor injuries. The injured were transported to Bannang Sata Hospital for further treatment. The deceased, a female, could not be immediately identified due to severe burns. Authorities are working to identify the body and will provide updates. The explosion caused significant damage: the concrete wall and fence of the police flats were destroyed, and numerous windows and doors of the five-story building were shattered. Additionally, the blast damaged several windows at the back of the Bannang Sata District Office and around 30 vehicles, including cars and motorcycles within a 30-meter radius. Bomb disposal units from Yala Provincial Police and forensic officers conducted a meticulous investigation of the area, fearing further explosions. The area was cordoned off to prevent unauthorized access. Preliminary findings suggest that the perpetrators used a 15-kilogram gas cylinder, weighing about 100 kilograms, which was concealed in the cab of a vehicle and detonated by a timer. The vehicle was parked in the area earlier in the morning without arousing suspicion, leading to the devastating explosion. Authorities suspect that this attack was orchestrated by insurgents aiming to escalate violence in the region. Prior security warnings had been issued about potential threats, but the attack still occurred. Further updates will be provided as the investigation continues.” https://fm91bkk.com/newsarticle/32591

Thanks, but all I have done is the same as you, post facts and supported it with links, and we both then get attacked by posters who fail to back up their claims. I understand the fire risks with Li-ion batteries, but it is just another risk like everything else on the roads, be it EV, NGV, ICE LPG or any of the dangerous goods carried everyday, explosives, flammable liquids, gases, flammable solids, oxidisers, toxic materials, corrosive materials or radiation. Emergency responders develop guidelines and procedures to safety and successfully deal with all incidents, always have done and will always continue to do so. I have no preference for EVs or ICE vehicles, but what I like are the real facts, with credible links, not the conspiracies based on someone’s unqualified opinions, that some here then believe is the ‘real truth’ I confess I drive a ICE vehicle.