HOOD Robin

I'm currently on a VOA and will be running out of my 90 days soon enough. I'm wondering if I, as a US citizen, can head to Australia to get a multiple-entry non Immigrant visa. It makes sense that I can get it from any country but I just want to be 100% certain before booking my flight.

(I understand that applying in the US, Europe, or Australia is my best chance of receiving the visa. However, going to Australia is cheaper and faster than going back to the US)

As I'm under 40, unmarried with no Thai children, do not work in Thailand, this visa class seems to be my only option for staying an Thailand for 3-4 consecutive months. I've got about 20 VOA stamps for Thailand in my passport from the last couple of years but now, out of necessity, wish to go the visa route.

Any advice?

A American friend recently just a few weeks ago went for a non-immigrant O and was turned down in Perth? He only got 60 days.It used to be very easy to get a non-immigrant O there in the past but not anymore? Unless you have all the proper paper work?

I am wondering if i can go to a Thai consulate Down Under and apply for a multiple 1 year non immigrant B as i have a recommendation letter of a foreign employer ? The only thing is he can not provide me with any other document as he's not for 100% sure yet that i can really start working for him.... It depends on some things..... (So, i also haven't a WP yet....)

I guess with this situation i don't have to apply in one of the Asian cities like Penang, Manila, Ho Chi Min, KL, Singapore, etc.. ??

It would be much cheaper to fly to Penang or KL or Singapore....

Every information is more than welcome !

Thanks in advance !

Do Thai consulates and the embassy in Australia issue non-imms to Americans? Yes

Do you state any reason in your OP for them to give you one? No

You aren't just given a visa because you want one. You must qualify.

<I got mine from Perth last October ... very fast turn around>

Hi,

You didn't mention WHICH visa you applied for in Perth and on WHICH base ?

=> This could be very interesting information for others...

Thanks

PS : Is Thai consulate in Perth OK ?

Non-imm multi-B .... they would have as easily issued me a non-imm-multi-o (I had documentation for both)

They were awesome ta the consulate! fast and very friendly!

Thanks for your reply !

Do you have any experience with Thai consulate in Darwin ? I mean do you know they're ok ?

Thanks i. a.

Do Thai consulates and the embassy in Australia issue non-imms to Americans? Yes

Do you state any reason in your OP for them to give you one? No

You aren't just given a visa because you want one. You must qualify.

<I got mine from Perth last October ... very fast turn around>

Hi,

You didn't mention WHICH visa you applied for in Perth and on WHICH base ?

=> This could be very interesting information for others...

Thanks

PS : Is Thai consulate in Perth OK ?

I get my non-imm 'o' multi entry from Brisbane... mine is based on marriage/support. They are particular about having the appropriate documents though. Not sure if your circumstances would qualify you.

They do issue double 60 day tourist visas as well, requiring a exit from the country for the second 60 days.

Hi RasiMike,

A double 60 day tourist visa ? i never heard about.... i think i missed something...?

Can you give me some more information about it please as i can learn something new ? Like fee, once or twice extention possibility, etc...

Thanks in advance

PS : Does Brisbane have "THE EASIEST" consulate in Australie ?

Of course you can get the non-B without a work permit, the work permit comes AFTER gettting a non-B.

So you get a non-B visa and come to Thailand and do not apply for a WP, what happens next? is there a time limit to apply for a WP?

Next apply for WP. Time limit is dependent on your Non B expiry period (single/multiple) WP can be processed in 10 days +.

KD

To everybody who send advice : MANY THANKS ! !

As i told you before, this is all new for me..... Much Appreciated !!

Maybe one last question ? Which place in Asia (or Australia ? ) is recommended for applying for this non B visa ? THANKS !

"When back in Thailand you can apply for a WP with your B-visa.

With WP in hand you can return to KL and apply for a one year B-visa."

Help me out here. With a B and a WP, why go to KL? Wouldn't it make more sense to go to an immigration office and get an extension on the B? Am I missing something here?

what happens if you get the non-B visa but do not apply for a WP straight away?

Thanks guys !

But my main concern still remains : Can i get the non-B visa abroad WITHOUT showing a WP ? i can only provide a recommendation letter.....

A surplus question : is Penang not the right place anymore to apply for these things ? Thanks for any information !

KL will probably be your best bet. You will be applicable letter and docs.

They will give you a single entry 90day b visa. When back in Thailand you can apply for a WP with your B-visa.

With WP in hand you can return to KL and apply for a one year B-visa.

Run a search of this forum as there are numerous tips on visiting KL.

Thanks for the information Mr Earl !

Any more people with suggestions please ? Thanks in advance

Robin

Hi everybody,

Let me first tell you that i am quite new at this topic, so pardon me if my question(s) sounds little bit strange... ; Here we go :

In 2 months my Multiple Non Immigr O visa will expire ; I was for a long time married to a Thai girl, but last year we divorced, so i cannot get the O visa anymore...

Now i want to apply for a Multiple Non Immigr B visa as a patriot of mine offered me a job for.... 80% ; I mean it's not for 100% sure i will get the job, this i will know for sure in about 3 - 4 months... With other words : NO work permit yet.....

But he wants to help me where he can : He wants to provide me with a recommendation letter wherein he will explain that i can work for his company in Thailand.

So, here is my question : Can i apply for that kind of visa WITHOUT a work permit in one or another Thai consulate abroad ?

If YES, can somebody recommend me where to apply for that Multiple Non Immigr B visa (nearby) ? Asian countries or best thing to go to Australia ?

Looking out for some worthfull suggestions.... Thanks in advance !

Robin

Hi folks.

I'm in the UK at the moment and will refresh my visa before I return to LOS in a couple of weeks. This time around I will need to do a little work whilst there, so with this in mind I called the consulate in Hull today to ask about work permits.

After a fairly complicated conversation with a very nice person at the consulate it would appear I do not need a work permit and can get by quite well with a non-imm type B instead.

Let me explain the situation.

I own a company in the UK, that company owns several websites, the company pays me a salary from the revenue of these websites.

The company is going to launch a new website in a month or so, that specifically addresses a certain Thai tourism market (nothing to do with bar girls before somebody chimes in).

I will need to promote this website whilst in Thailand as well as write news/reviews for the site. I will also be looking to set up business relationships with several Thai companies to provide both content for the site and sales revenue to the Thai companies in question.

So I guess my question is what's the difference between 'working' and 'doing business' ? Surely doing business involves working which is strictly prohibited in any form without a valid work permit?

Slightly confused here, interestingly enough the person at the consulate suggested I just ignore the rules and keep my head down whilst working in LOS and hope not to get caught! I replied that this would not be the wisest thing to do as some of the promotional events I will be organizing for the website will be very public facing, thus exposing me to the risk of the boys in brown asking questions.

Any opinions gratefully received.

Thanks in advance.

Hey Buddy,

Very interesting story ; I wouldn't be surprised if they gave you wrong information up there in Hull... Here in Thailand you can expect everything ! But of course i'm not the one who knows all these things for sure as all that stuff about visa and other related things make people like us really confused ! I think people of Sunbelt will know the right answer....

But i really wonder if you can apply for a Multiple None Immigrant B WITHOUT workpermit ?? Just a recommendation letter from a company in Thailand is enough ? Can you say to Immigration or at the Thai consulate:"i'm looking for a job, but i do not have one yet...? "

Can somebody give the right answer to that please ? Thanks in advance !

Pat

oh oh, that is really bad news here. After Samui now here. This will not improve tourism from nowhere. Especially young women will stay away. Another "Thailand special"

He castelleone, maybe you're not a newbie on this forum, but it seems that you don't know to much about life here, do you ? These things happen here, unfortunately, on a regular base, but of course it's not always in the press, although....

This is not just about young tourists or backpackers, but 2 of those MANY Russian hookers, probably they didn't give their full salary to their (Russian) pimp... God bless them (the 2 women...)

this is very very bad news. bad news for pattaya tourists. i love going to jomtien beach with my daughter, but now will maybe think twice, might be better of staying at home. jeez. "amazing thailand"

He Pattaya girl, this is really ridiculous what you write ! This has nothing to do with your daughter or the average tourist, believe me ! And Jomtien beach is 6 km long ! so place enough for your daughter to play...

It reminds me of the Pattaya hotel fire of a few years ago; the fire exits were discovered to have been padlocked to prevent runners on the bills. (Anyone know if victims' families were compensated and how the hotel owners fared after that? And is it now enforced, that emergency exits always be open?)

Safety awareness and training does not seem to be a high priority for Thai facility managers.

And what about the fire last year in the "brand new" disco 99 on Pattaya's 3rd Road (north) where about 10 people died and many were injured ; and WHY ?? Because all of the fire exits were C L O S E D ! ! ! I still see the pictures that the rescue people were trying to knock down a thick concrete wall with a sledge hammer, and through the opening they created, the victims were taken away, VERY sad to look at !!!!

I wonder if they learned a lesson out of that ???? But as we all know how they handle and think in Thailand, I really doubt it !!!

I really don't want to think in case of a fire in the passanger hall in the new ( what is new ? ) airport......

Typically a government thing. You approve a design (12 years ago) , you make changes, this government had all the time ton postpone the opening of the airport, they did not do so. They went along with the design (It is a well known Japanese agency, so there is not much reason to doubt them) than you use the toilet space for smoking rooms, and retail space. You lock the exits (bet they will blame the former government for the locked doors today) and than in the end, you create a panel. The panel contains only ass kissers of the goveernment which will always come with a guilty party, and you guess right. That is ALWAYS a foreign party...

500% CORRECT ! I couldn't say it better.....

You know what they have to start with in this country ? Banishing all those masked costumes which are been wearing by almost EVERYBODY ; from security guards over doormen to ministers.... Especially these last ones ! Take away all that shit and dress like normal people, not like circus clowns ! Then MAYBE they gonna do where they are payed for (although i doubt that...).

But i think they really are gonna loose face if they cannot show their suits anymore.... Verry silly !

Why doesnt he find someone who is familiar with this sort of thing and appoint them to run it. what does he know about the airport, or is it that famous thai logic that since he is the guy incharge, he is the most capable to handle any problem?

it seems like one bad stoy after another chasing this interim government.

Yea....... unfortunately..... TiT .......

They really think that this guy discovered the HOT water....

Indeed it is a HOT topic, but please, don't give it in the hands of somebody who thinks that he knows everything about airports (just like Toxin before him, but that was another fact, wasn't it ??? )

Anyway, where is this soap gonna end ??

Is this just my mind playing trick on me or didnt I read that they specifically announced that this was not going to be discussed on Tuesdays session.. Made it 100% clear in statements issued before the meeting that because the proposal wasnt detailed enough this could not be tabled or discussed..

And then they decide.. Yet more about turning..

Lets hear what dates they think this is going to start from then and when to avoid BKK and transit Changi..

Remember this : In a short future, U Tapao (Pattaya) is gonna be very busy as DM cannot handle all the stuf alone anymore !

And let the Airforce drop some bombs on SUV, that will be the best solution to get rid of it...

And the best time to do this is when Toxin's airplane will land there....

Then he will be history and many people (hopefully) will be happy.

Hello guys,

I'm still a newbie ; Can anybody tell me what these shortenings mean : WTO (above in the text) and LOS (i already read some times in the forums...). Thanks !

WTO = World Trade Organization

LOS = Land Of Smiles = Thailand

Welcome !

LaoPo

THANKS LaoPo ! Appreciate !

hi...

i would have thought that most of this was obvious......

Thailand is going nowhere right now and the next elections...... if they are allowed to take place will be critical...Thaksin is still out there and in the shadows...... who ... will democraticaly replace him.... i wonder.....

as for for the military.. prestige is everything.. not only in thailand - and if you dont have grey hair and a suit/uniform - you need not apply.....

Thaksin has not gone... he may well return... and in my opinion it will be better for thailand if he returns.......

since he was overturned we have seen only chaos and protectionism from the " military " government... no this/no that....

let the people speak... they have been silent until now....

7 months to go....

WTO where ae you...! all the rules are being broken!

amarka

Hello guys,

I'm still a newbie ; Can anybody tell me what these shortenings mean : WTO (above in the text) and LOS (i already read some times in the forums...). Thanks !

My reply to Amarka : I'm not so sure that it will be better if Thaksin should return.... "Let the people speak" ???? They WERE positive about him, but since those poor guys dedected what Mr Toxin stole from them - and all the other bad things he did to put the country in a grey daylight (for example new airport on Cobra Swamb that had to open very quickly but wasn't ready !!) - I guess that many of them would like to see him in jail, together with all those other corrupt bastards !

If an average person like you and me should do the same bad things like he did, we got already a one way ticket to the Bangkok Hilton ! So why not him and his clan ? Of course, SATANG..... that's what's it all about here !

And chaos has ALWAYS been in Thailand with all this corruption in this beautiful country... What i don't understand about the Thai people : They would go through a fire for their King, so why wouldn't they go through that same fire to punish those corrupt bastards and bring them to Monkey House ? After all the King did NOT condemn the militairy coup in September....

I think it is madness no matter what.

If it is such a huss,and if they want to change the code ,what they did for visa free enrty.

Why not just give a 2 or 3 month visa free to all farangs.A lot of them will extend there holidays.

Like malaysia where you get a 60 or 90 day free stay.A lot of problems finihed ,and what do you think about all the time consuming work the imm has got to do,still bananarepublic over here.I love it don't understand me wrong ,just getting tired too many right now....

Hey mate, can you get in touch with me on //email removed per forum rules - contact by PM to receive - lopburi3// ? I want to chat with you about Malaysian vis... Thanks !

Meanwhile, Transport Minister Theera Haocharoen accompanied Gen Saprang Kalayanamitr, the Council for National Security (CNS) secretary in his behalf as board chairman of the Airports of Thailand, to inspect runways and taxi-ways at the new airport.

Boy do I hate it when you get this kind of spin......The people mentioned above would not know a "good" runway or taxi-way if it bit them in the ass.

I am in the airline buisness....(operations and mainenance) and just a few miles from where I live is LAX. They removed the most southern runway and are re-doing it for the Airbus A 380 due to size and weight.

They remove the earth to almost 3 meters below the surface and start the runway base from here. In the touchdown zones the concrete is over 1.5 meters thick....

The Thais can do what-ever cosmetic stuff they desire, but the problem remains with the foundation to the runway and taxi-ways, and it will take a solid 6 months of excavation to really fix the problem.

Of course TIT, and nobody will ever loose face for the money they pocketed and the junk that was allowed to be built.

Suvarnabhumi has some special problems as the land that was selected was almost swamp, so finding a base to support aircraft weighing 750,000 lbs as they roll over the taxi-ways and runways with only 3 points of contact puts a tremedous force on the tarmac below....They had the money to do it right, and I really wish the military would use a "scorched earth" policy towards those involved in the airport construction. (i.e. Complete confiscation and forfeiture of all family assests of those involve that allowed this type of construction to take place).

JMHO (of course)

I can totally agree with Old Wanderer ! These guys deserve the Bangkok Hilton, and all the money they stole with this corruption, well, give it to the poor Thai people.... It's really a shame for such a beautiful nation, but so many bad and corrupt leaders ! but what can the average Thai guy do about it when this corruption is in ALL high levels in this country ? Correct, NOTHING ! TiT and it will always be......

Hi guys, i'm new here and not native English, so please forgive me for the faults i wrote....

OK, 2 questions, if anybody can help me with this, thanks in advance !

1)When somebody with a Non Immigr O, that he has already for many years being married to a Thai girl (so BEFORE 1/10/06), has to renew his 1-year Visa, is it enough that he goes to a Thai consulate and show the proofs like he did before ?

Meaning the original certificate of marriage and copy of ID of his Thai wife without showing a financial proof ? If NO, what more does he have to show or to prove ?

2) I still don't understand when somebody can renew his 1 year visa, or when he has to apply for a new one...

If somebody with a Non Immigr B has to renew his Visa (or apply for a new one), can he also do this in a Thai consulate by showing a proof/letter of a company that's willing to emply him in Thailand ?

--> Is it still possible to do this in 1 of the neighbouring countries, or better go to Singapore, Indonesia, Australie (Darwin, Perth...) instead of going back all the way to (West) Europe ?

I would apreciate to get some answers to this.... THANKS !

Robin

He didn't get ousted for doing allegedly good things, there's no need to include them.

Good things ? What good things ? Example - a murderer or paedophile or bank robber is judged on his "bad" deeds - not whatever "good" he might have done. That's the law in most countries I suppose. The so-called "good" things may be considered mitigating circumstances and may be taken into consideration in sentencing. But "bad" is "bad" surely ? No matter how much "good" may be claimed as well. There's not a balance sheet where "good" and "bad" can be used to cancel each other out. MalcolmL

RIGHT ! He was really bad, and for that he has to be punished ! Don't know HOW ? Go back to the Middle Ages, they didn't even "judge" somebody when he did some bad things, they acted by cutting off his hand when a person stole a bread... I think Toxin stole just a little bit more than a bread, didn't he ? And now these days there are still countries in this civilizised world where they do the same... You really don't want to see him in Thailand (land of the free people) anymore ? Well, act as they do in China and you are rid of him... No mercy on somebody who cheated his Own (poor) people !

Sorry but there is no Thai consulate in Kota Kinabalu.

Yes sorry. No consulate in KK but short bus/boat/plane ride from KK to Thai consulate in Brunei which is fairly friendly. The easiest way from KK to Brunei is taking a ferry for 4 hours. I remember it being about 50 malaysian ringgits (approx 500 baht each way on ferry) Interesting place to visit also. Cheap flight from BKK on AirAsia to KK.

Brunei, Royal Thai Embassy

Lot 25251, Simpang 683

Jalan Tutong

Kampong Bunut

Bandar Seri Begawan BF 1320

Brunei Darussalam

Tel: (673 2) 653108 / 9, 653311 (Visa Section)

Fax: (673 2) 653032

Do you have to apply for a visa for entering Brunei ? If YES, how much do they charge ?

that is funny!

what a country this is. I remember the singer "Bert" being sent away for a few years as well.

poor old Thaksin, no country wants him.

POOR ??? And what about the crimes he committed to his own people ??? If I should be PM, I would send him to the Northpole without 1 Baht !! And NEVER allow him to enter one foot in Thailand anymore...

The day they gonna allow him entering Thailand again, THAT would be asking for trouble !!

The only product which I know the price over 5 years is the bread "made fresh daily since 1982" (i don't know the brand name, it's written in Thai ).

It was at 22b on June 2001, and it reached 27b about 5 years later.

That's a yearly inflation of 4.2% ...

I also remember a few hotel prices, but the prices variations can't be caused only by inflation.

If anyone remembers the prices of something from everyday life, I'd be curious to see what was its evolution on the last 5 years.

Euuuhh.... Maybe the bargirl's fine.... ?