SoCal1990

That friend who liked ladyboys didn't want the ones without a penis either. He told me only the ones with a penis would give him access to back nine. Sounds suss, right?

Close friends of yours gumball?

A gay man once explained to me about the men who like ladyboys. He said that they see them not as another man, but as a woman with a penis. I guess that's where they confuse themselves.

I love it. Anytime someone makes a simple observation then others assume that they care. It's an inherent human flaw. Nearly everybody seems to have it. Where did I state that I care? So now that you've dug yourself into this hole, define "care". 🤣

The male or the female ones?

Or maybe the boyfriend has a really small unit so he plays the cuck while the ladyboy sorts out the missus with some proper beef. Had a friend who liked ladyboys 25% of the time. He also thought he was heterosexual until one day I clarified to him that he's bisexual. And he said maybe. 😊

At least 3 nights a week. You should try it some time. Better than staying home and just surfing Pornhub every night.

And a toastie with an M150.

But if you only really knew......

You want to spend your time at night talking to ladyboys, go ahead. You do you. Not for me. No interest. I've got other things that interest me more. I also don't go around just asking people their personal business and how they make their money. I call that manners. Lastly, the thought of talking with a ladyboy, and asking them questions about this situation never even crossed my mind. I'm not out there to do surveys and try to get to the root of things. I've been here long enough to know that it's better to mind your own business. I was only making an observation on things that I see in passing. You've taken this all too seriously. But since you seem to really want the answer now, you should go out and do all the extensive ladyboy research and report back to us.

I don't talk to ladyboys on the streets of Sukhumvit. Many of them are whacked out on drugs. And they're not emotionally stable. They have gender identity issues and their hormones are all confused and messed up. You start asking them questions about who they have sex with for money and they might get pissed off and hit you with a bottle over the head. This forum is for off-topic discussion. This is the right place to get into a topic like this about Thailand. And you don't have to participate if you're not interested. You could just go off and cook yourself another schnitzel instead.

So you're sitting back in your lazy armchair in Germany in the winter cold, you haven't been in Thailand for 30 years, and you're telling me how things really are here in Bangkok now? Is that what's going on? Meanwhile, the other night I saw a guy with a really tall blond ladyboy dressed pretty well and taller than him, Western looking features, he-she probably had a bunch of facial plastic surgery, and with them was also one of those short, fat Kazakhstan hookers covered from head to toe, wearing a black burka. The guy might've been Middle Eastern himself, but the bizarre combination didn't strike me as so unusual because you get blokes coming here wanting all kinds of kinky stuff. But the youngish British couple with a ladyboy, that seemed a bit more peculiar to me.

And your point is?

Talking with ladyboys when I'm out is not something I ever do. Do you have any personal knowledge of the situation?

Solo and on the piss. Was that you?

Late Last night, while slumming it around Sukhumvit Road, I saw something that left me scratching my head a bit. There are always a few unusual freaks in Bangers around this area late at night, especially during the high-season holidays, but this particular situation stood out to me a bit more than usual. I spotted a Western couple, presumably British, probably in their late 30s. Let’s just say neither of them was too kind on the eyes. They were walking arm in arm, looking a bit worse for wear, and then they headed straight into a short-time hotel. But they weren’t alone. With them was a tall, very slim ladyboy, looking a bit haggard like them and maybe on meth. This situation brought back memories of the kinds of things I saw ages ago. Back in the day, it wasn’t all that uncommon to see Western couples in Thailand who were into a bit of a trio swing. They would bring bar girls back to their hotel room together as part of their “exotic” Thailand adventure. It was a known thing, often with the older European couples, and while not fully mainstream, it wasn’t entirely uncommon either. But now? It seems that notion of swinging isn’t just about Thai women anymore. The ladyboys are now swinging their bits into the mix too. Now I wonder: is this a new trend for these "one-night-in-Bangkok" couples who come to Thailand wanting a bit of extra kink? And do they first sit down together back in their tiny, cold, UK apartment, fantasizing about their next party holiday and say, “You know what we should do when we get to Thailand? Let’s find ourselves a ladyboy and take turns trouncing his pogo stick!” I couldn’t help but think about the dynamic here. Is this just about adding something more “exotic” to their adventure? Or is it a now a thing and a case of two people back in the West who are struggling to spark their own intimacy whilst looking to get themselves into something out of the ordinary to get them going again while on holiday? Sukhumvit has always had its share of unusual pairings, but this one really stood out to me as a sign of how the scene looks to be changing, or perhaps devolving, depending on how you view it I wonder if others have noticed this shift too. Or if this is just a random one-off scene that happened to cross my path last night. Who knows, but maybe there is a wonderful new "hub of" evolving here for Thailand.

no, please explain further for us neophytes.

you start a poll, but you won't share your views?

I did prefer his posts when he posted as Bob.

I just checked the app and it's showing me around ฿3500 right now for an "Economy" car, and this is peak time during Bangkok rush-hour. When I checked the app earlier (when I made that post) it was showing around ฿2800 for the same type of car. If you check the app in the morning at around sunrise, then it should be under ฿3000 I suspect. At that time you might even be able to find their higher tier cars in that same price range. If you leave Bangkok at around 5AM or 6AM in a Bolt taxi, then I reckon you'll be there around 10AM or 11AM at the boat pier.

Bolt Taxi from Bangkok to the Koh Chang boat pier during non-peak hours costs less than ฿3000. Split between three people, that seems like a good way to go. Sometimes spending a little bit more in Thailand can save an exponential amount of unnecessary aggravation.

I think that's a very good policy in general and a safe one at that. It's very easy to quickly run out of superficial topics that you can discuss with them. And, after that, if you attempt to start moving onto deeper and more substantive subjects, you risk inadvertently insulting them and causing them to lose face. They sometimes even get offended by the fact that you know more about the subject or you bring up a topic that they know nothing about. That's when it's likely to cause some friction without meaning to and where things might not turn out so much in your favor, even though you didn't mean anything disrespectful in the first place.

I don't have any Thai friends. I only spend time with pregnant looking British mingers in Thailand.

Let me know when you've figured out a way how to pay for a short times using Wise without showing your real name on the transaction. That could be a game changer for Thailand. Think about what that might do for the local economy and how many more new houses might get built by knights in shining armor in the hub of som tam.

When it comes to relationships in Thailand a key question is: Is it better to rent than to own? By “rent,” I mean spending time with short-time girls a couple, few times a week rather than committing to a full-time girlfriend or wife. On the surface, the financial differences are clear. With short-time girls, you pay by the serving for the services you want and nothing more, no monthly allowances, no family support, no gifts or trips to keep her happy. You’re also free from the routine expenses that come with a girlfriend or wife, like taking her out to meals multiple times a week or paying for her shopping. Dining out together may start as a fun activity but quickly becomes a recurring cost, especially if she’s accustomed to going to nicer places. All these little things add up over time, and with short-time girls, it’s not your problem. But the advantages aren’t just financial. Consider the emotional and mental freedom. Some relationships are wonderful in the beginning, but over time, they can become much more challenging. Once the initial honeymoon phase fades, and the rose colored glasses come off, then with it, patience on both sides can begin to wear really thin. Small disagreements eventually turn into bigger arguments, and then those can escalate into fights. Lies and mistrust may creep into the relationship, and sometimes one or both sides start taking advantage of the other, whether it’s her asking for more money or gifts, or you becoming less attentive or supportive. With committed relationships, there can also be an eventual breakup involving lots of grief, sadness, and heartache, not to mention it being a deeply depressing experience. And then, you’re left wondering if the relationship was worth all the time, effort, and money you invested into it begin with. With short-time girls, you basically avoid all of this ruckus. If you handle things correctly, there’s no emotional baggage, no drama, and no eventual heartbreak. You meet only on your terms, always enjoy your time together, and then part ways without any strings attached. So when you’re in the mood for companionship, it’s easy to arrange. And whenever you prefer to be alone, you have the freedom to focus on yourself without the guilt of neglecting a partner. And the great thing is, as long as you keep paying each time, you usually never lose the girl, only occasionally lose your turn when she's busy elsewhere. Some might argue that having a girlfriend or wife provides emotional connection and stability, but the reality is that long-term relationships don’t always deliver those things. Many men find themselves in situations where the relationship has become more about obligation and stress than love and fulfillment. Some may look at this viewpoint as shallow, but others may see it just as more practical and realistic and certainly less headache and grief. When you add everything up, renting seems like the way to go for many expats in Thailand, or does owning still offer some other major benefits that can’t be measured in terms of cost?