Stiddle Mump

Dr Vernon Coleman wrote a book on vaxxines. ''Anyone who tells you vaccines are safe and effective is lying.'' He should know. He said 'covid is/was the rebranded flu.' That's generally accepted now.

There's a lot more of this in the closet. Dr D Cahill says that anyone who had a 'hot/proper/real' jab will get severe reaction(s) within 5 years. So what is a real/hot/proper jab? Who got a hot one? Who got a duff one; as in placebo? www.howbadismybatch.com

McBean's book is a gem. She certainly spells it out in common sense terms. Other books to consider. What really makes you ill. ---David Parker & Dawn Lester. Virus Mania. -- Sam & Mark Bailey. Can you cat a cold? -- Daniel Roytas. There are quite a few posters on AN, that simply will not do research, if it doesn't fit their narrow narrative. But instead resort to silly insults and statements. I've had a few. Still here. Truth can take any criticism. Nature has the answers we seek.

70 years ago 'long ????' was never mentioned. But 'slow ????' was discussed instead. Simply unscientific words to distract from the truth.

Getting there Richard bud.

You are confusing yourself Richard. A virus is cell debris. Probably takes the form it does to help the cells removal from the blood and body. I have to keep telling you Richard; pathogenic viruses do not exist. They are only found in computers.

Simply not true. Where do you copy this garbage from Sir?

I was referred to as a 'long leg alien' once. Hurt my feeling big-time. I confronted her. She said she didn't like me clapping when I wanted a cup of Rosy. So I agreed to stop. Just a whistle does the trick now. The two worst four-letter words we could be called are 'dead' and 'lazy'. Though not necessarily in that order.

More attempts at humour there GambOOler Sir. However, you do raise an interesting point. Where does one obtain hidden, sensitive information? As transmission goes - in the way we understand it to be - there have been hundreds of studies down the decades. Many during the period 1918 -- 1930. And most of these were carried out by the military medical establishments. They were very well documented, but not put onto the www (for obvious reasons). So one has to go to the library archives, get out the files, and start reading. It is not always as easy as simply searching for them on the www. Indeed no! Some that are on the www, are not available for 'unauthorised' viewing. And special clearances are often required. FOIs come in handy here.

So be it Richard bud. If I can't educate you!! Well never mind, keep reading the CDC and NIH's handbook. I'll tell you what it's like with viruses. In a game of football, a player is tackled, and is injured. The ref sees that it was Jimmy Smith who did the bad tackle. The ref is reluctant to address the issue. The players crowd the ref and insist it was the dastardly, notorious Chopper Munroe. It is pointed out that Chopper is on the bench. The ref is unmoved however. So he gets the red card. Once the card is issued there is no need to look any further for the bad tackler. From then on, all bad tackles are attributed to Chopper. Any dissenting voices are ignored. After the match someone asks the ref why he gave Chopper Munroe the card, when he wasn't even playing, and everyone knew it was Jimmy Smith. ''I am the authority out there. Chopper's sister refused me sex once. And Jimmy Smith's dad is my wife's boss at work.'' And that's about it. Rather than seek the truth, the unscientific, compromised white-coats cling onto their wage packets, and point the finger at something that has no basis in science.

Most of it is made up, by compromised Big Pharma disciples.

Most of your post is unscientific nonsense. The PCR is a magnification tool. For it to detect a virus sequence; first catch your virus. Not yet been done Richard bud.

Cell Culture: Enders never isolated any virus. He did a control, and got the same result. (Read the paper Richard). Virus Detection: A virus cannot be detected in a computer or by a PCR test. Genetic Analysis: It is the same challenge now, as it was back in 1950s. Can't find the elusive, pathogenic virus. No evidence of a virus. No virus = no need for vaccines.

Wow! You certainly hit hard there Will. What causes illness is beyond the scope of this thread. Although some essays are free to read on TT. I'll not go through the whole list, but if I may, take the first three. ++ You posted: Polio – caused by the poliovirus. ++ My take; polio is caused by chemical toxicity. When the widespread use of the chemical DDT stopped, the incidence of polio dropped dramatically. The jab came along and cases rose. ++ You posted: Measles – caused by the measles virus (a paramyxovirus). ++ My take; measles is one of a dozen, or so, similar sets of symptoms. Mostly driven, IMO, by poor diet. Too much sugar, too much food preservative, colouring etc. And also medical interventions. That is the measles jab, and other medications. ++ You posted: flu – (Influenza) – caused by influenza viruses (A, B, C, D). ++ My take; influenza is a natural body function. IMO, triggered by a drop in moisture in the air. Although others say - Dr Daniel Roytas - it is a change in internal mucus membrane PH. There are others that point to a prolonged drop in temperature. Nature has the answers we seek Will.

This is simply not true. The studies do not show any isolation what-so-ever. They use the same procedure that Dr Enders did in 1954.

What are you on about Sir? Have you ant idea what driver the vaccine programm? there is no evidence out there that shows: ++ A pathogenic virus exists. ++ An illness is transmissible (in the normal way). ++ Any vaccine is safe, effective and necessary.

The viruses that the white-coats say exist, are indistinguishable from cell debris under an electron microscopy. Pathogenic viruses do not exist. They have never been isolated and therefore cannot be shown to cause illness. Nature has the answers we seek.

This is simply not true Sir. Just white-coat mythology.

None of these quoted, are caused by a virus Sir.

Very disingenuous Richard to say that. It is on the AN record, that I stated ,your persuasive arguments have returned me to 50/50. Or to put it another way I don't know. But I do know about viruses. I've been writing, and lecturing about them, for 45 years. Although not too much since 2000. There is no evidence that a pathogenic virus exists. Where is there evidence to show that an illness can be caught, by a healthy person, from a sick one? My finding show the opposite. What you are posting is Big Pharma, white-coat nonsense.

Any evidence would be good to show that a vaccine does what the white-coats say it does. I can't see any Fred mate. Cause there is not any.

Wasn't thinking so much as me. No! I'm concerned that medical authorities might decide to erase some stuff.

This is monumental unscientific hog-wash. Where on earth did you pick up this nonsense from Richard?

Not safe in any amounts.

Thalidomide and Vioxx immediately spring to mind.