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No offence intended, what are you and your partners skills, qualifications, knwowledge and experience?
EG, what are you both qualified to do?
I don't think that their skills are of primairy concern. Most countries in the world don't accept immigrants unless they have something to offer such as highly valued skills, or a big bag of money. You won't get into western coutries if you don't have skills that the people there have themselves (you'd just be taken jobs from the people already there). If it's not skills or lots of money that you can offer, it may leave either family re-union (which often comes with various requirements aswell) and asylum applicantions, though that last one is rather drastic, no fun and the outcome very uncertain unless you are a genuine refugee flying from war or political prosecution.
Most realistic and easy option to me sounds to move to Europe for family re-union. If the OP and spouse are skilled workers they probably have the connections and networks to find them a nice country out of many that will beg them to fill up empty job positions there.
The OP mentioned Oman, I dont know how long you worked for in the ME (me 15 years), if you aint got skills they need forget it, same as for other countries in the area, they have enough problems from their own unskilled locals.
As for the ME, unless the OP and his "partner" are married, forget it.
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No offence intended, what are you and your partners skills, qualifications, knwowledge and experience?
EG, what are you both qualified to do?
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Be back home, where I will receive FREE healthcare, updated pension rises etc etc.
Stuck here as an OAP, NO CHANCE.
Stuck here without healthcare and no pension increase, no thanks, didnt pay my taxes and NI for nothing.
Mother England will welcome me with both arms back to her bosom, Thailand offers?
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The OP with his Mrs can work anywhere here in Asia or worldwide as long both have the qualifications needed (degrees). Without knowing any background all we can do is only guessing.
I can only assume you aint up to date on modern day PC New Speak.
The Middle East forget it.
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Yes I live in the Boonies 18 km away from the nearest city.
Ooh very short sighted comments.The bottom line here is, whose dream are you financing, yours or your girls?
If she wants to live upcountry, let her finance it.
The honest truth is, I dont know of many farangs who woke up one morning and thought, I want to live in the ass end of nowhere.
Not mentioned, bloody roasting in the summer, freezing in the winter.
Water shortages, brown outs.
The bloody dust.
Charcoal farms next door.
No internet, no farang television.
Boredom, boredom, boredom.
Nothing to do, it will do your head in.
I remember going upcountry to visit a friend, the highlight of his week, drinking lao kao with the locals (that he paid for) to watch Thai boxing on a Sunday afternoon on a black and white telly outside some mom n pop shop.
Brownouts Yes, but can be easily solved with a genset / ups.
Water shortages, in the area were we live fortunately none, but we also have a 40m well which provides (if needed) good water (and yes I had it tested at a BKK lab).
Internet available (lookup TotWiNet)
Farang Tv, when you have internet you can watch all the Farang Tv you want.
I have enough things to do to keep me busy, and no need to go out (lived 5+ years in Pattaya and don't wanna go back)
Drinking Lao Khao not my thing, but the neighbours come by once a while and bring their own beers and also Lao Khao (for those who like it) and we have a great time. The whole evening only costs us doing some washing up (the glasses they drink out) and maybe some snacks.
The only thing I have to agree with is the dust.
But it's not for everyone, just try it and if you don't like it MOVE.
Brownouts Yes, but can be easily solved with a genset / ups.
Farang style, your average Somchai upcountry doesnt have.
Water shortages, in the area were we live fortunately none,
Consider yourself lucky, try other areas.
Internet available (lookup TotWiNet)
No offence, do you actually live in the boonies?
Farang Tv, when you have internet you can watch all the Farang Tv you want.
I wish it were true, heck even here in Bkk I am unable to watch live football if I dont subscribe to some company.
I have enough things to do to keep me busy, and no need to go out
No offence, everything I like doing involves leaving the house, playing golf, playing snooker, gettin on my Mountain bike and goig for a 30 Km ride.
(lived 5+ years in Pattaya and don't wanna go back)
Concur, great place to visit, meet friends, play golf, eat farang food, drink farang beer and listen to live music, live there full time, NO chance.
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Best advice for the OP, go live there in some rented place for at least a year before even considering moving full time.
For interney just look up TOT Winet, which is internet based on wireless technology, I have a 17m high TOT tower in my garden which picks up a signal from a tower 9 kms away and is more then adequate to watch ThaiExpatTV (unfortunately not for IlikeHD) for TV i also have Truevision sat tv.
Immigration is a 120km one way trip away and because it's not the friendliest immigration, I have stopped getting extensions of stay and now on a ME non-O and have to leave the country every 90 days. But no problem whatsoever.
Food wise we manage, we get fresh pork, chicken from food trucks that drive through the village 2-3 times a week. And fresh produce is also no problem as someone from the village is going to the nearest "city" almost every day and we have a car to go shopping (Big C / Makro is around 45kms away)
I personally love living in the village, lived in Pattaya for a long time (5+ years) but wouldn't want to live there anymore or in any other Big city. Food wise. believe it or not, there is a guy who can get a lot of the Foreign food (if you desire it) and delivers it to your house (or you can pick it up).
Edit: My only main issue with living here is Health care, as the hospitals here are ... (No comment), for good care I need to drive to either Khon Kaen or Korat (around 150kms+ away
Thank you for highlighting exactly why I will NEVER move upcountry.
90 Day reports, screw that, head to Singapore etc, come back and reset, next time head to Singapore again.
Why leave the country, if you are married just park 400k in the bank, ploblem solved.
Food wise we manage, we get fresh pork, chicken from food trucks that drive through the village 2-3 times a week.
Good lord man, rather you than I, do these trucks sell Colemans mustard, Branston pickle, etc etc.
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Topic about build house!!! Not about rent thaistyle house.
Rich guys ?
Its must be rich guys for try it..But it's not for everyone, just try it and if you don't like it MOVE.
When i calculate with friend how much its cost normal house. Its be up price if buy new in near Pattaya or Bangkok in "village" from some developer.
Stay with the inlaws for a couple of weeks and see if you like it.
Or rent a house in the neighbourhood or is that also only available to "rich" guys ?
Have to build house farang style or girl and family lose face.
Him falang him cheep chalee why him not build falang macmansion?
Him can build house, all family can live na ka.
Him falang him khon ruay, him can pay everything na ka.
Upcountry is littered with these mansions that stand as nothing more than a Farangs Folly.
If upcountry is so great, why didnt you meet your mrs there?
Answers, its the pits, she had to move elsewhere.
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The bottom line here is, whose dream are you financing, yours or your girls?
If she wants to live upcountry, let her finance it.
The honest truth is, I dont know of many farangs who woke up one morning and thought, I want to live in the ass end of nowhere.
Not mentioned, bloody roasting in the summer, freezing in the winter.
Water shortages, brown outs.
The bloody dust.
Charcoal farms next door.
No internet, no farang television.
Boredom, boredom, boredom.
Nothing to do, it will do your head in.
I remember going upcountry to visit a friend, the highlight of his week, drinking lao kao with the locals (that he paid for) to watch Thai boxing on a Sunday afternoon on a black and white telly outside some mom n pop shop.
Ooh very short sighted comments.
Brownouts Yes, but can be easily solved with a genset / ups.
Water shortages, in the area were we live fortunately none, but we also have a 40m well which provides (if needed) good water (and yes I had it tested at a BKK lab).
Internet available (lookup TotWiNet)
Farang Tv, when you have internet you can watch all the Farang Tv you want.
I have enough things to do to keep me busy, and no need to go out (lived 5+ years in Pattaya and don't wanna go back)
Drinking Lao Khao not my thing, but the neighbours come by once a while and bring their own beers and also Lao Khao (for those who like it) and we have a great time. The whole evening only costs us doing some washing up (the glasses they drink out) and maybe some snacks.
The only thing I have to agree with is the dust.
But it's not for everyone, just try it and if you don't like it MOVE.
Brownouts Yes, but can be easily solved with a genset / ups.
Farang style, your average Somchai upcountry doesnt have.
Water shortages, in the area were we live fortunately none,
Consider yourself lucky, try other areas.
Internet available (lookup TotWiNet)
No offence, do you actually live in the boonies?
Farang Tv, when you have internet you can watch all the Farang Tv you want.
I wish it were true, heck even here in Bkk I am unable to watch live football if I dont subscribe to some company.
I have enough things to do to keep me busy, and no need to go out
No offence, everything I like doing involves leaving the house, playing golf, playing snooker, gettin on my Mountain bike and goig for a 30 Km ride.
(lived 5+ years in Pattaya and don't wanna go back)
Concur, great place to visit, meet friends, play golf, eat farang food, drink farang beer and listen to live music, live there full time, NO chance.
Not mentioned, The Muchies, wait until the farang food craving kicks in, something simple like a Cheese and Branston pickle sannie, Fish Chips & Mushy peas.
Yes I can eat Thai food, but I dont want to eat it every day, and I sure as heck cant eat what passes for food upcountry.
Pla Ra, no thanx.
Lap nu/ngu, no thanx.
I get down to my budda every day and give thanx to The Mall Korat, what relief after eating sticky rice and grass every day, everything else I couldnt stomach.
Not mentioned, the usual bureaucracy, Embassay Letter, etc etc, opening a bank account, sollee sir can not do.
Best advice for the OP, go live there in some rented place for at least a year before even considering moving full time.
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The bottom line here is, whose dream are you financing, yours or your girls?
If she wants to live upcountry, let her finance it.
The honest truth is, I dont know of many farangs who woke up one morning and thought, I want to live in the ass end of nowhere.
Not mentioned, bloody roasting in the summer, freezing in the winter.
Water shortages, brown outs.
The bloody dust.
Charcoal farms next door.
No internet, no farang television.
Boredom, boredom, boredom.
Nothing to do, it will do your head in.
I remember going upcountry to visit a friend, the highlight of his week, drinking lao kao with the locals (that he paid for) to watch Thai boxing on a Sunday afternoon on a black and white telly outside some mom n pop shop.
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What you should do is move in with your in laws for 6 months, because when you build a home next door it will be practically the same.
Everything that you own will become shared, any food you buy and store will be tasted and probably eaten. All of their household needs will end up being "borrowed" from you on a permanent basis. You will have zero privacy, they will be knocking on your bedroom door at any time of day or night when they want their daughter.
If you have any form of transport it will be their primary mode of transport.
Don't do it, as another poster said, get as far away as possible!
Believe me, I spent about 1 year living with my in laws (and they are really nice people - honestly!) when I started building a home and in that space of time my mother in law was lucky i didn't hack her to death and douse her in petrol just to vent. Now we are in our own place a few miles away we get on better than ever.
Then you are one of the few unlucky ones mate none of the picture you paint has happened to us none. In fact I find a lot of your statement very hard to belive. Knocking on bedroom door at all hours do you not lock your front door??????.
do you not lock your front door??????.
Yes I did, woke up the next morning to find the Hillbillies had chopped it up for firewood to eat moo ping.
That door was Mai Sak, bloody expensive.
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If I decide not to build on my fiancees land. What is the deal with the 90 year lease of land to build on and what's a rough idea of price please
No such thing as a 90 year lease of land.
Farm land can be rented from 1,000 baht per year, a Thai style house can be built for about 600k baht.
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The only part of Thailand I haven't been to is hua hin.
I want peace and quiet.
Not a fan of pattaya.
I want peace and quiet.
Head to Soi Dao in Chan, you wont be plauged by charcoal burning villages etc etc, you wont be pestered by 3 day monk parties and deaths.
The 3322 has some nice land for sale on the way to Kao Su Khim, 300k per rai.
Near hat yai?
Nowhere near Hat Yai, its on the East Coast, 250 KMs or 3 hours drive from Bkk.
Peace and quiet you will get, Pattaya it aint..
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The only part of Thailand I haven't been to is hua hin.
I want peace and quiet.
Not a fan of pattaya.
I want peace and quiet.
Head to Soi Dao in Chan, you wont be plauged by charcoal burning villages etc etc, you wont be pestered by 3 day monk parties and deaths.
The 3322 has some nice land for sale on the way to Kao Su Khim, 300k per rai.
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Just as a matter of interest, Thailand has 77 provinces, how many of them have you actually visited?
Do you want mountains,or sea?
Can you speak thai or not, do you need to be in some place like pattaya?
Get yer ass in gear and travel around the country, choose a place you like and have your teelak follow you.
If she doesnt, pick up a new one at whereever you decide to lay your hat.
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Good idea. As your wifes parents get older she will want to spend more time with them and it will help if you are both nearby.
Thereby limiting the amount of time she has for you possibly causing issues in your own relationship,if you wish to play second fiddle to her family go for it.
Do let us know how it pans out though.
Stoney, never a truer word said.
A difference between those of us who live here full time and the 2 week blow ins from elsewhere.
Heard it all before, oh save money , no need for hotel , buy house in village.
Who the heck comes to Thailand to spend 4 weeks in the ass end of nowhere, Phuket, Pattaya, Koh Samui etc etc.
Trapped in a village, no thanks, go spend your time and money elsewhere.
Farangs have told me, what used to be something to look forward to, soon became something to be endured, and finally something to be avoided at all costs.
As your teerak heads North on the smoking bus from Mor Chit to Assendsville Nowhere, go pour a coldie at the swimming pool in Pattaya and be thankfull you didnt go with her.
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Your wife is wise. Thailand isnt a place to raise children. if they arent Thai of course.
I wouldn't even raise Thai children here. I can only assume that those who do dont have the means to do so elsewhere.
Why do you think so many Thais send their kids overseas to be educated?
Why do you think so many Thais living overseas cant understand why I live here?
Why do you think my Thai mrs cant wait to leave here?
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Post #263.
where did you get your figures from ?
Go into any 7-11 and pick up a copy of a magazine called Talat Baan, costs about 30 baht.
Head over to a website called DD property.com.
Head to the for sale forum on here and read.
10% yeah right, more like 5%, if you are lucky and are actually able to get it rented out.
I piss myself with laughter when driving into seaside towns and see the adverts advertising such amazing returns.
There is a sucker born every minute, dont let it be you.
To save you the bother of doing your own research, heres three for starters,
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At post #258, poxy post block, cant reply.
Good man, start buying some more, my place in Edinburgh gives me the same, thats before I even get out of bed.
Not included capital appreciation, they are all part of my pension plan.
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More rental potential in UK for sure....I would just buy a condo in a prime location in Bangkok for 3 million baht and live on the rentals, if the location is good enough you can easily get 25k per month. And live on that for as long as you want. But you have to live in a cheap room yourself 5-7000k , no problems if you live alone.
For a 3 Million Condo I not believe you will have a return of 25'000 per month.
Then you have to think, that you normally not will have renters 12 months a year, except you will have a longterm renter, and this one will ask for reduction because you can have a save rental income over several months.
Then you have to pay monthly maintenance fee.. which will deduct your rental income and sometimes have to replace some things. so even less rental income at the end.
I think if you lucky you can count with 15'000 baht per month. then deduct your cheap 7'000 baht rent.. so you would have left 8'000 baht for living......
More rental potential in UK for sure....
Finally the penny drops, I have 5 of them.
NO WAY, would I ever consider selling them and investing the money here
3 million baht condo, if lucky can maybe get 15,000 per month, if lucky, unless its rented to some farang mug.
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Your Honour, ladies and gentlemen of the jury...
i live in Thailand where my savings on income tax exceed € or $100,000 by far and my living expenses are a fraction of those in my home country leading an equivalent lifestyle.
i therefor rest my case and send sympathetic greetings from Thailand to Oregon and the IRS
In Thailand you have saving on income tax € or $100,000 ?
I do not see any legal ways to save..
Ofcouse if compare simular( In thailand tax from income Thailand whit Tax US from Income US)
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AND YES small crimes activity in Thailand can be doing easy/ cheaper).. But we not talking about crime..
you don't see a way because obviously you don't have the slightest idea concerning the Thai income tax situation. and that goes for other topics too.
why don't you inform yourself and learn that Thailand does neither tax offshore income nor offshore capital gains. that applies to Thais and to foreigners. for your info... i save much more than €/$100k!
Herr Doctor, you can explain it to them, but you cant make them understand, for the simple reason, they dont have a clue.
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I have a friend from Ghana who lives in Thailand and has also lived in several other countries. His experience is that Thais are the most racist people he has met.
Here in the provinces he apparently has no problem but down in Bangkok he says people look horrified at his presence and even wipe themselves if he accidentally brushes past them.
Why is it always a white guy saying this? I've yet to meet a black person in Thailand who's had any bad experiences. Even the black members on TV who comment from time to time have not mentioned being the target of racism by Thais. It's as if some white folks in Thailand feel a desperate need to convince everyone that Thais are racist against blacks. But reality is nothing like that.
Depends on the definition of "racism". It also depends a lot on whether the foreigner, who could be white, black, Indian, whatever actually understands Thai, misunderstands it, misinterprets the situation etc. leading to the charge of racism.
Many Thais are racist, both towards black and white people. Yes, probably more towards black people but with the very low numbers of black people in Thailand it's hard to say with any certainty, short of a survey. However, I have seen surveys made for a group of Thai professionals who worked for a multinational with other professionals who were sent for a project to Thailand from India, known in Thai as "khaek". Many of the Thais in that company initially quit when they found out they were going to work with Indians. The survey questionnaire was, from a western perspective very politically incorrect. But this is Thailand and after having filled out the survey, the respondents were very honest about their feelings responding that Indians were "stingy", "smelly", "loud" etc.
After the results were handed to the Indians they changed some of their habits to conform more with Thai culture, for example, putting on deodorant, not being as aggressive over monetary issues, being a little quieter etc. and then fewer of the Thai team felt the need to quit anymore after they gained exposure to the Indian workers.
It is also a fact in my experience, speaking fluent Thai that Thais do occasionally speak about you behind your back, just based on your physical appearance. Sometimes the comments will be positive, other times they can be interpreted to be negative. The big difference between Thailand and western countries (and many other countries) is that racism is usually subtle and rarely involves random violence, hostility or offensive language shouted at an individual or group of individuals in a loud manner. That's probably what causes so much debate on the matter here in Thailand - just because nobody tried to punch you in the face because you're white, black whatever, doesn't make Thailand a non-racist society. You have to look for the subtle clues and they are actually everywhere and they affect us all even if you're unaware of it.
No matter the number of foreign tourists and even expats that come to Thailand, Thailand is still a very race conscious society and while few people will stare at foreigners [anymore], the constant need to use terms like "farang", "dam" (which means black) or other distinguishing terms is clear evidence that Thais do not yet want to come to terms with the concept of diversity or multiple races and nationalities living amongst them and these races being equal to Thais. There's always this "us vs. them" mentality, which irrespective of how long certain individual expats have lived amongst Thais does not seem to fade away. It's not much different in most Asian countries, although a bit better in Myanmar, Malaysia and Singapore, just because those countries are more heterogeneous and less homogeneous than Thailand.
The survey questionnaire was, from a western perspective very politically incorrect.
For Thais going to work in India or vice versa, why should it comply to a Western persepective?
Before going to work overseas I was sent on a "cultural awareness" course.
Perhaps the fault lays with the employers rather than the Thais?
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To the gent above, please do a simple google search for, Bangkoks sleazy soi of shame.
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If you go through a tunnel in Nana there is a bar with a sign that says "No Africa Man."
Really, and where would that be exactly?
Do you mean the one that used to be between Suk soi 5 and 7?
Perhaps you should address your concerns to the owners of the establishment.
The same soi where certain gentlemen were barred from entering the premises becoz of nefarious activities.
The same soi where you would be asked on entering Foodland, what you want brutha?
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Was sat outside a Thai mom n pop place (Bkk) the locals were having a few beers and a few laughs.
A couple of tables down some upcountry ban nork type started setting fire to plastic bags to get the BBQ going.
The smell and smoke was rancid, he was told to ferk off, the locals even poured beer over the fire to stop it.
He honestly didnt know what he had done wrong.
Ban nork ban nork, even the Thais know about it.
While the video definitely is making fun of the lack of sophistication about rural people, it is done in a very light-hearted teasing way, certainly not with condescending snobbishness. Not 100% sure about this, (andI'm not pretending I could make out the dialogue), but at the end of the video the woman who sees herself as above her country relatives, appears to be humbled by being reminded that deep down she's not that different from her kin back home. I don't think urban Thais harbor condescending attitudes towards rural people to the extent your post suggests.
I don't think urban Thais harbor condescending attitudes towards rural people to the extent your post suggests.
My post suggested nothing, you of course can feel free to interpret any way you choose.
I only have to turn on the television every night to see the stereotypes being played out on these mind numbing Lakorns, opium for the people.
The ban norks from Issan living in Bkk piss themselves laughing at it.
The irony of it all.
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Was sat outside a Thai mom n pop place (Bkk) the locals were having a few beers and a few laughs.
A couple of tables down some upcountry ban nork type started setting fire to plastic bags to get the BBQ going.
The smell and smoke was rancid, he was told to ferk off, the locals even poured beer over the fire to stop it.
He honestly didnt know what he had done wrong.
Ban nork ban nork, even the Thais know about it.
Expats in Thailand - what do you intend to do when you're old (70,80,90+)?
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Healthcare is already fairly good in Bangkok..
Great stuff, how about telling us how it is for the over 65s and 70s in Bkk, thats Thai not farang..
Healthcare is excellent if you can afford it, insurance is great as long as you are willing to pay.
How about telling us about those insurance companies that insure 70s and over, my Thai Mother in law will be so grateful, as will the rest of the moo baan never mind the soi.