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Lots of Australians are stranded overseas due to caps on arrivals imposed by the Australian government, so as not to overload quarantine facilities. 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.smh.com.au/national/can-we-still-call-australia-home-the-refrain-of-expats-facing-shut-borders-and-20k-flights-20200819-p55n4i.html

Be prepared to pay if you want to go back - airlines are demanding business class, on the pretext that they can only carry a very limited number on economy. You'll also have to pay for quarantine when you land.

On 6/11/2020 at 11:39 PM, asiasurfer said:

Also my own home country isn't much better. ????

Too true.

Some people work harder and smarter than other people - through skill, attitude, or ideally both. It's that simple. 

1 minute ago, BritManToo said:

This goes around in loops.

You're poor so you only look for women who can contribute financially.

I'm not poor, so I only look for women with beauty (that I can get my hands on right away).

 

I can understand both our points of view, but can't see it's a good idea to move here until you're funded for the rest of your life.

Why do you keep thinking I'm poor. I'm not. In addition to physical attractiveness, I also value good personality and character in women. It's possible for such attributes to coexist. 

1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said:

In my experience I've met many well off charming, popular people with good manners that are bad people.

I try to take people as they are rather than define them by how wealthy they are or where they come from. Rudest people I've met were upper middle class trendy people.

Again, there are good and bad people everywhere. But to say that Thailand is different in some way is plainly false.

5 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Educated people in Thailand ........ 555

There are actually lots of them, any it will surprise you to learn that many are just as capable and successful as their peers in other countries. I've met them through work - good, honest and humble people who work very hard.

You've already told me that you haven't worked in Thailand, and I'm sure you won't meet many successful girls working in bars, so that's why you say what you do.

1 minute ago, CrunchWrapSupreme said:

I've dated a few, and had the misfortune of working with some of those "educated", hi-so types. Arrogance, obsession with image, lack of work ethic, and yet high expectations. I could stayed in my overpriced, overrated US state for all that. It's one of the main reasons I, and I suspect many others had left. Why would we be looking for that again?

First you say that you don;t like arrogant and lazy people, either in the US or Thailand. I don't think that anyone does.

What point are you trying to make? If it's that all educated people are also arrogant and lazy, then you clearly haven't come across any decent people yet. Or, perhaps, educated people find you repellent and hold you at arms length, finding you crude and not wanting to give you the time of day. Have you considered that? 

I've always found that Thailand reflects the temperament of the observer. Not much different from back home, where nice people reject the company of people who have no manners or whom they find repulsive in one way or another. Back in the west, hookers and certain rogues always welcome such people, hoping that they can get whatever they can out of them before moving on to their next mark.

10 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

So what? Back home I'd never have got as far as the front door with any women I wanted to do the hokey pokey with. Not being content with middle aged divorcees with children I was happy to connect with attractive women in Thai bars that were up for it with an old bald fat man. I got happy and so did they. What's wrong with a win win?

I get what you're saying, but it's rather sad that people don't value your character or your personality - only the contents of your wallet. If you're happy with that, it's fine, but I did detect a tinge of resentment from Brit Man, calling Thailand third world, when it isn't, and saying that everyone who works in Thailand is poor, which they aren't. Generally, people who say those things are upset because their lives have been a failure on one or another level, and they haven't managed to adjust to what a place is really like, i.e., pretty much the same as the place that they ran away from. 

Each to his own, and I hope you don;t get lonely in your old age.

17 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I'm fairly certain a decent Thai woman would be OK with her decent Thai husband earning 25k/month, it's more than most male Thais in my family manage to earn, and they all have a decent (if plain) wife.

 

But like most foreigners in Thailand, I only meet greedy whores, and they want a lot more.

If they weren't beautiful, I wouldn't be interested in sex with them.

Beauty can demand a higher price.

Maybe it's because the only attractive attribute you have about you is what's left in your wallet? Have you considered that?

13 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Only if one is, IMO, foolish enough to want to meet so called decent ( whatever that means ) Thai women.

Far as I'm concerned it usually means that they get sold ( sinsod ) for a million or more.

Hmmm - most farang relationships with hookers seem end up costing far more than a bit of Sin Sot. Many foolish men come out with little more than the shirts on their backs.

If you want to rent it, that's fine. Others enjoy the companionship that marriage brings.

Thinking you and Brit Man have had a string of failed relationships with hookers? Taking a look in the mirror might help.

6 hours ago, mr mr said:

eventually the modern day dinosaurs will be extinct. then maybe this world can start to heal. 

And be more like the west? That isn't healing, it's debasement.

The Thai government will put up with it for a while, then tread on them like bugs, sending them for attitude correction, as they always do. 

I'm all for that, looking at the descent into anarchy in the so called 'liberal and free' west.

The Australian outback is another contender. 

1 minute ago, BritManToo said:

You're right, I've never been poor enough to need to work in a 3rd world country.

Having plenty of enough money does tend to distort your perception of the world around you.

Ah there we go with that patronising third world jibe. After all, Britain is such an example to the world these days. You should stay there, if it's such a great place. 

Not all people who work in Thailand are poor either. I've done very well there over the years, and so have lots of people I know.

10 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

You don't understand the difference between a comment on life and advice ....... are you Australian by any chance?

Just wondering you understand?

Your implication that most Thai women freelance because you've shagged a couple of off duty nurses who were in a farang nightclub, and that's also what a retired hooker told you, is patently wrong. Sorry to disappoint you.

If you've spent all your time in sleazy areas, you'd think that. If you've lived and worked a normal life in Thailand, you'd think differently. 

2 hours ago, checkered flag said:

In another post, he said he could no longer live on B25,000/mo and took his B800K back to the UK to live. So that's the answer.

Decent women can be found in decent places, but it might take time to get to know. Maybe doing volunteer work if permitted, jogging in the park, or even meeting a nurse in the hospital. You definitely won't find many hanging around falong places. 

First you need to work on speaking  polite Thai. Just like English, there are real differences in politeness and first impression is very important. Tell the old ladies around you that you want to meet a decent girl, they might surprise you with someone very nice.

it's true that learning to speak the language politely helps a lot too.

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

I used to meet Thai nurses freelancing in night clubs ........ if that's any help.

 

I remember having a conversation with the female owner of my local Coffee shop.

Nice lady in her 50's, obviously a retired sex worker of some sort in her younger years.

 

She said to me, "I remember in the good old days when I was young, and it was only girls like me having sex for money with foreigners, you could easily make a good living but now everyone's doing it, teachers, nurses, office girls, they're all selling themselves to foreigners on ThaiFriendly, Tinder etc., there's just too much competition"

Hmm. That's the kind of advice one would expect from a retired sex worker, so no surprises there.

7 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I'm not trying to be combative, but I never found a "decent" place to hang out in in LOS, though that was fine, as I didn't want to meet decent women.

Seriously, I just don't know of anywhere in LOS that could be described as "decent" to meet decent women in, other than museums and the art gallery near MBK. ( Come to it I don't know anywhere where I live that I want to meet decent women in. Not into bars, and that's about it- other than church ).

 

Re the OP, obviously work was not an option for the girls to meet rich farang expats, or they wouldn't be complaining. Like me, they can't find the place to find decent people ( in their case rich farang expat men ).

 

Decent people are honest and compassionate people, who have your best interests at heart. There are lots of them around,

Do tell. Just about all the decent women I've ever met were married, and the ones that weren't turned out to be not decent at all.

 

if you look in the right places

Those are a very well kept secret, as I've never found them. It's not as though I never looked for the mythical utopia of decent people.

 

 

Oh dear. I feel sorry for you, and wish all here the very best of luck in finding someone decent. It may happen when you least expect it.

Thailand reflects the temperament of the observer. 

15 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Rather significant then, that we are not talking about our home countries. Thailand is different, which is why we are there. If we wanted home country relationships we'd stay there.

 

The Op was about where THAI GIRLS meet "decent" farangs, whatever that means. Ergo, where do those elusive expats ( that are not having a good time with rented girls ) hang out so that "decent" whatever that means, Thai girls can meet them.

Perhaps they should take up golf, as that is about the only sport expats take part in in LOS.

 

Your more specific suggestions are?

I met my wife through work. That's one suggestion. A friend met his wife through charity work. That's two suggestions.

The methods of meeting other decent people in Thailand are really no different from the western world. Hang out in decent places, and you meet decent people. 

Decent people are honest and compassionate people, who have your best interests at heart. There are lots of them around, if you look in the right places, and treat them in a reciprocal way. It's the same as back home. 

20 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Such as?

IMO such are in rather short supply when it comes to expats. I haven't seen many churches in Pattaya.

Where do decent people meet other decent people in your home country? While working, through  introductions by other decent people, hobbies, sports, etc. Certainly not when hanging out in red light districts.

8 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

Have you contacted the consulate in Sydney or the embassy in Canberra. They will have to issue the certificate of entry certificate and inform you when there will be repatriation flights.

You can find info on the consulate website in Thai. http://www.thaiembassy.org/sydney/th/home

Private room in SQ and the ASQ both. ASQ is costly but certainly better than the free SQ.

Embassy in Canberra doesn't respond. I'll try the Sydney consulate. Thanks. 

Thanks Jack & Saltire ... indeed lots of good info in that thread for non-Thais .... but I was thinking more about Thais and keen for info from posters with Thai spouses, and latest procedures Thai folks have to follow when departing Oz, hence my questions here.

The Thai Embassy here isn't returning emails or calls at the moment, might try the Sydney consulate...