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1 minute ago, Jimbo2014 said:

To be honest I dont know - I have lived in Thailand for so long now.  I prefer to complain about Thailand ????

But it was you who started the comparison with Australia. Why?

1 hour ago, MRToMRT said:

What an asinine reply ... painting a picture no one has said or referred to. 

You didn't answer my question. Why do you hang around Thailand and pour derision all over it, when you can remain in Newcastle with all its advantages? Are you a masochist, or do you enjoy looking down on a place that you openly despise, because it makes you feel good about yourself? Which is it?

1 hour ago, MRToMRT said:

everything works much better and more reliably than Bangkok ... in fact I would say Newcastle is actually infinitly better developed

So why on earth do all you people hang around Thailand? Is it schadenfreude? Do you enjoy looking down on a country that you all despise, to make yourselves feel better about your mundane lives? Why not just stay in the wonderful west?

40 minutes ago, Jimbo2014 said:

Australian's complain about their governments and cities all the time and they continue to improve

You're pulling my leg, right? The city of Melbourne resembles East Berlin during the Cold War at the moment. 

21 hours ago, Jimbo2014 said:

Another Good enough Response.  Ive also lived in Thailand for close to 30 years and watched it go through repetitious cycles of corrupt and ineffective governments squandering opportunities to improve the lot for the average Thai.  As I (clearly) said there are many good things about Thailand including positive elements of development - but there are many things the country needs to address and particularly given its looming demographic cliff.  The pollution is much much worse than 20 years ago - no-one can possibly deny that.  It use to be just Bangkok that was polluted but now clear cutting and burning of natural forests have resulted in most of Asia being unlivable for 6 months of the year.  There are many other issues Thailand must confront as it continues its transition to an upper income country.   To just accept that in light of other achievements seems gormless at best, irresponsible at worst.   

Show me a place that doesn't have problems and I'll show you fairies at the bottom of your garden. The pollution? Do you remember all those two stroke motorbikes, belching out all that oily white smoke? They're all gone. It's bad like most big cities, but it's better than it was.

21 hours ago, The Barmbeker said:

That ringing sound you hear, is your alarm- clock!

Time to wake up!

People were saying that over 30 years ago, but Thailand goes from strength to strength. I also remember the Asian Financial Crisis, when the economy contracted 25% and the currency halved its value - Thailand bounced back. It always does.

39 minutes ago, Jimbo2014 said:

This is why Thailand gets nowhere.  There are many good things about Thailand but there are many bad things, such as the military dictatorship, the death tolls on the roads, the rubbish, the pollution, the cost of living in Bangkok etc...  Thais seem unable to be critical of their own society and this really holds them back from addressing the shortcomings.  Thailand's golden demographic age is passing fast.  In 10 years the population starts shrinking and there will be few young people left to address the poor infrastructure and debt problems this generation leaves.  Very sad.   

Another Thailand is going to hell in a handcart post. I've lived in Thailand on and off for over 30 years and watched it develop into a successful newly industrialised country with strong exports and a diverse economy. The western world, conversely, is in a downward spiral of its own making - it's falling apart socially and economically. 

27 minutes ago, cardinalblue said:

One of the biggest flaws in the Thai culture is the expectation and reality that the children will take care of their parents...if they want to be productive at a higher income level, why isn’t it the other way around? 
 

My parents put all 3 of their kids through college or graduate school...And then cut us loose...all ended up with high level professional jobs and careers...

 

we have or will do the same with our children...it’s the proper recipe not the other way around...

 

 

Thailand's society is a lot more cohesive and caring than ours, where the elderly are left neglected to rot in money grabbing nursing homes.

59 minutes ago, Bender Rodriguez said:

most are low educated and never will leave the country or learn anything beyond's thailand's borders in school anyway

Sounds like any country in the western world these days. 

Thais love their country, and are proud of their traditions. Good on them.

Seen it all before. Marxism appeals to the young, until they realise that an ordered and disciplined society is necessary for them to raise their children. 

16 hours ago, wensiensheng said:

You mean BADGES saying 350 cc sales go up. If the badge on the side says 350, how will the cops know different?

Usually the engine capacity is stamped onto the crankcase. 

4 hours ago, FlyingThai said:

I don't get their approach about this. 18,800 Australians are currently abroad and want to go back. Australia can currently handle 4000 a week (IF there are flights) per quota. The issue would regulate itself in 4-5 weeks.

 

And then there is the question: Why now? The pandemic has been going on for 6 months and now these remaining 19k people all of a sudden want to go home?

 

I'd also think twice about going back to Australia where the government is one of the most extreme when it comes to Covid measures and is planning to lock their citizens in for the foreseeable future. That would be my very last choice.

4000 flights per week needs to be spread around all of the locations in the world, which makes it uneconomical for the airlines to operate flights. This is why they always cancel scheduled passenger flights, and is why repat flights organised by embassies using cargo routes and taking only a few passengers, are the only ones operating. 

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/morrison-looking-at-options-to-help-australians-stranded-overseas-20200821-p55o4g.html

2 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

Thai Airway are flying to Sydney this month according to the Australian Embassy.

"Thai Airways will fly five flights from Bangkok to Sydney on consecutive Sundays in August.  These flights will depart at 19:29 in the evening on Sunday 2^nd, 9^th, 16^th, 23^rd and 30^th August.  The flights will arrive in Sydney at 07:20 the following Monday morning."

Under this heading "Flights to Australia" on this webpage. https://thailand.embassy.gov.au/bkok/home.html

I think that might be out of date. Mostly cargo and repatriation flights with limited passenger seats are operating throughout September. 

Thai has recently cancelled scheduled passenger flights for the whole month. The Australian border is still closed. 

24 minutes ago, happyaussie said:

Thanks for this. As Thai airways are frozen due to bankruptcy I doubt they will transfer to a code share partner. But I will try. 

With Australian arrival numbers being set until 26 October. By November I'm hoping sanity will prevail and some flights will be possible.

I called Thai immigration and they told me that with an embassy letter I will get an extension. They also told me there is a good chance the government will mandate a third extension of 30 days. 

Here's hoping. And thanks to others who replied. 

The caps on arrivals are very onerous. Sydney at 350 arrivals a day is just one single plane load. The airlines are calling the shots, so repatriation flights might be your best option. 

Lots of Australians are stranded overseas due to caps on arrivals imposed by the Australian government, so as not to overload quarantine facilities. 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.smh.com.au/national/can-we-still-call-australia-home-the-refrain-of-expats-facing-shut-borders-and-20k-flights-20200819-p55n4i.html

Be prepared to pay if you want to go back - airlines are demanding business class, on the pretext that they can only carry a very limited number on economy. You'll also have to pay for quarantine when you land.

On 6/11/2020 at 11:39 PM, asiasurfer said:

Also my own home country isn't much better. ????

Too true.

Some people work harder and smarter than other people - through skill, attitude, or ideally both. It's that simple. 

1 minute ago, BritManToo said:

This goes around in loops.

You're poor so you only look for women who can contribute financially.

I'm not poor, so I only look for women with beauty (that I can get my hands on right away).

 

I can understand both our points of view, but can't see it's a good idea to move here until you're funded for the rest of your life.

Why do you keep thinking I'm poor. I'm not. In addition to physical attractiveness, I also value good personality and character in women. It's possible for such attributes to coexist. 

1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said:

In my experience I've met many well off charming, popular people with good manners that are bad people.

I try to take people as they are rather than define them by how wealthy they are or where they come from. Rudest people I've met were upper middle class trendy people.

Again, there are good and bad people everywhere. But to say that Thailand is different in some way is plainly false.

5 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Educated people in Thailand ........ 555

There are actually lots of them, any it will surprise you to learn that many are just as capable and successful as their peers in other countries. I've met them through work - good, honest and humble people who work very hard.

You've already told me that you haven't worked in Thailand, and I'm sure you won't meet many successful girls working in bars, so that's why you say what you do.

1 minute ago, CrunchWrapSupreme said:

I've dated a few, and had the misfortune of working with some of those "educated", hi-so types. Arrogance, obsession with image, lack of work ethic, and yet high expectations. I could stayed in my overpriced, overrated US state for all that. It's one of the main reasons I, and I suspect many others had left. Why would we be looking for that again?

First you say that you don;t like arrogant and lazy people, either in the US or Thailand. I don't think that anyone does.

What point are you trying to make? If it's that all educated people are also arrogant and lazy, then you clearly haven't come across any decent people yet. Or, perhaps, educated people find you repellent and hold you at arms length, finding you crude and not wanting to give you the time of day. Have you considered that? 

I've always found that Thailand reflects the temperament of the observer. Not much different from back home, where nice people reject the company of people who have no manners or whom they find repulsive in one way or another. Back in the west, hookers and certain rogues always welcome such people, hoping that they can get whatever they can out of them before moving on to their next mark.